Profiles vs. Classes: Does anyone else have an issue?

Well tbh. The new system suits your avg console player alot more and even more so the new age gamers love it.. I personally hate it! There is no consequence from picking skills/class anymore and you don't have to adapt. This change will also ruin the immersion for me atleast, but I guess I can just try to ignore it.

But I mean what would happen if the new age gamers could not get their auto save, instant glorification, deluxe edition items, fast paced action.. They would most like cry and give up..

This is sadly a development that is here to stay (same with the CC) next title might completely look the option to change anything, but instead be presets.. There have been a evolution since Bioware became part of EA and its slowly been taking out all the old RPG/difficulty/choices of older games they made.

But hey, we are the minority now and I dare say that we are the real gamers.. I mean when I started gaming people looked odd at me and called me geek, now if you don't have a fast paced game on your phone, laptop or computer you are a weirdo.. But if you look at the games now, you will see how simplistic they are to suit the needs of the marked.


Let me just say that I can actually live with you being able to pick whatever skill you want(I makes sense in the way they build the system)!! Its the fact that you are not stuck with them that pissed me off

I was hoping for this, too, as I love little personal touches like these (acknowledgement of races we pick, classes we choose, background, etc), but I've always liked that BioWare is willing to try new things to see what works and what doesn't. My disappointment will likely be short-lived.

I agree, multiclassing into 4 distinct classes is not optimal for 3 reason :
-Your gear is only going to boost some aspect of gameplay and will not fit other profiles
-Profile levels are unlocked with points invested in them, the bonus are huge.
-Passive.

Passive in ME:A have their 3 first ranks boosting a stats based on your number of point in that category, how it goes up is not specified but here are some examples :
Auxilary system first rank reduce tech ability duration and the second rank improve tech power force.
with 0 skill point : +2% for both stats
with 86 skill points in tech tree : +15% for duration, +21% for force
Same with "offensive tech" increasing by 15% tech damage.
For those wondering it seems that big stats are improve by 0,15/skill point and less important one by 0,20/skill point/

For a 3 point investment it is very potent. But as I said there are multiples passives with 3 rank link to skill point in the tech tree. With 18 point invested (not much less than 5 level) with a full investment in tech tree (using all 86 skill point) we now should have something like :
Auxilary system : +15% tech ability duration, +21% tech force, +15% tech construct damage and health.
Team support : +15% team shield, shield delay reduction, shield regeneration, construct health regeneration, power restoration & defense
Offensive tech : +15% tech power damage, tech power cooldown reduction, tech detonator damage.
And those are the worst passives, check the biotics ones.

So a lot of bonus for a minimum cost (and I did not talk about the excellent rank4,5,6) but this is only this powerful if you go full tech. Someone multiclassing will have less strong passive and less point to actually invest in the passive. 18 points is nothing if you go full tech but if you go tech/biotic/combat.
All this demonstration was just for passives, but let's not forget there are the profile passive, the armor you chose to wear and the fact that specializing in one class let you access more easily to rank 4-5-6 and more active ability, giving you a real edge.

So all this math was to prove that there are still classes and thinking the game force you to go through the multiclass is a misconception. Focusing on one tree can be very useful.

Did the early access but didn't explore this at all as, tbh, I have no idea how it's supposed to work and didn't want to waste time finding out.
It seems over complicated and I don't know why they didn't just give you complete freedom a la Skyrim where you can be a two-handed weapon wielding wizard if you want. It's up to you if you want to pick specialities that conflict with weight limits and cooldowns etc.

Anyone else find it funny that the Thalandor and Sahl posts are right next to each other? Looks to me that they're diametrically opposed viewpoints. Do we have to make hard choices or don't we?

No level cap? Every Bioware game has had a level cap be it hard or soft. 

I've one single issue with this: Replayability is less appealing. Beyond that the new system is good. 

Ah that explains things. Still to say there is no level cap isn't quite true there is if you want to play long enough to get there. It's more of a soft level cap once you get all skill points what's the point?