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Post by Ahriman on Mar 20, 2017 7:33:53 GMT
They just needed more supervision. I doubt they are physically incapable of doing better, it just seems a lot of time was wasted and internal acceptance criteria was quite low. They had supervision though, from some leads of Edmonton. It'd have taken a little more positive ratings just by being delayed for a few months to fix some of the technical problems with the game. Clearly not enough, because some problems are too obvious to notice even by non-specialist. I'm personally with EA here (jeez, what have I become?), they had five years there, EA was surprisingly generous and yet it wasn't enough. "Rush" is the last thing I'd blame here.
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Post by farsight on Mar 20, 2017 7:34:00 GMT
Oh I was always a critic of this game. I was actually not happy at its direction. Then they showed some stuff I liked. The Angry Joe stream looked meh bu tnot terrible, but apparently it gets worse before it gets better. Seen Dell streaming endless fetch quests.
I knew it was a possibility this game could suck.
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Post by vanillah on Mar 20, 2017 7:34:02 GMT
I predict this is that last time we hear from Mass Effect. EA will bin franchise for sure. They already downgraded it to B-dev team, i guess they wanted the proof that new ME game would work and be success. It's all out of window now.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 20, 2017 7:34:51 GMT
To give comfort to some: The game is fun to play. It is a decently fun game. A 70 - 80 is well deserved. Personally, I'd rate it higher just for being mass effect. But I understand the critics. It IS sometimes technically not all there. And it's not as if they didn't notice this themselves during test playing. If EA accessers notice it, they themselves can see it too. They just didn't have the time to finish it. But. I'll say it again. Fun. ANd that's still my primary concern in a game: gameplay. Ya but it doesn't have that illustrious 90+ metascore like all critically acclaimed games. Kek
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 7:35:46 GMT
Didn't I tell most of you wimps months on end that the primary reason why the showed us extremely little before 2017 was in part due to this game being a complete and utter mess? Most of you thought Bioware was doing us a favour by not showing us much, it's safe to say you're all cucks. Hi Dutch. You have the right to your opinion, but not to insult anyone. So please refrain from doing so.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 20, 2017 7:35:47 GMT
They had supervision though, from some leads of Edmonton. It'd have taken a little more positive ratings just by being delayed for a few months to fix some of the technical problems with the game. Clearly not enough, because some problems are too obvious to notice even by non-specialist. I'm personally with EA here (jeez, what have I become?), they had five years there, EA was surprisingly generous and yet it wasn't enough. "Rush" is the last thing I'd blame here. Oh, I didn't mean they didn't have the time. Just a note on the fact the score would've been better with a delay.
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Post by missywho on Mar 20, 2017 7:35:49 GMT
They really shouldn't have let Montreal handle this game from the looks of it. They were the same people who did the Omega DLC too right? Yup. And IIRC that was also full of bugs, animation glitches...
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Post by vanillah on Mar 20, 2017 7:36:20 GMT
RIP. Mass Effect franchise killed by B-tier development team. RIP.
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Post by saitamat56 on Mar 20, 2017 7:36:28 GMT
They really shouldn't have let Montreal handle this game from the looks of it. They just needed more supervision. I doubt they are physically incapable of doing better, it just seems a lot of time was wasted and internal acceptance criteria was quite low. Remember CDPR had a big bunch of new devs when making Witcher 3. Look at the product they made. I think Bioware pointing out they were working 5years on this is utter Bull****. Even monkeys working 8hrs on weekdays for 5years would've created a masterpiece
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 20, 2017 7:36:31 GMT
I predict this is that last time we hear from Mass Effect. EA will bin franchise for sure. They already downgraded it to B-dev team, i guess they wanted the proof that new ME game would work and be success. It's all out of window now. Yup, it's going out like dead space.
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Post by areskeith on Mar 20, 2017 7:38:09 GMT
They were the same people who did the Omega DLC too right? Yup. And IIRC that was also full of bugs, animation glitches... Yea so I'm not that surprised by the tech issues
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Post by Shaftell on Mar 20, 2017 7:39:06 GMT
Can someone tell me how the writing is? Everyone is either saying amazing gameplay, terrible facial animations but nothing about the writing. How is the dialogue? How are the characters? That was always the strong point in Bioware games.
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Post by laughingbanana on Mar 20, 2017 7:39:13 GMT
This from Hardcore Gamer is exceedingly worrying: So many glitches and bugs, enough for the reviewer to call it a nightmare, and in GAF the ACG dude confirmed it as well
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 20, 2017 7:39:17 GMT
WEW LADS
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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 20, 2017 7:39:30 GMT
To give comfort to some: The game is fun to play. It is a decently fun game. A 70 - 80 is well deserved. Personally, I'd rate it higher just for being mass effect. But I understand the critics. It IS sometimes technically not all there. And it's not as if they didn't notice this themselves during test playing. If EA accessers notice it, they themselves can see it too. They just didn't have the time to finish it. But. I'll say it again. Fun. ANd that's still my primary concern in a game: gameplay. Ya but it doesn't have that illustrious 90+ metascore like all critically acclaimed games. Kek Thank you captain obvious.
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Post by eamon696 on Mar 20, 2017 7:40:45 GMT
Seems like general consensus is that MEA is a solid game with a lot of cool moments and systems, but is marred by technical issues, some weak writing and characters, and poor animation.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 20, 2017 7:40:46 GMT
If they survive this I hope they learn from it. You can't take the amazing IPs that are Mass Effect and Dragon Age and then give us mediocrity. Like from the looks of it this game is not completely terrible, I will still buy it and I think i'll probably like it but it's not gonna be the amazing game I want them to make.
To be fair to them, they have a lot to live up to.
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Post by allenspellwaver on Mar 20, 2017 7:41:08 GMT
Damn... This is not looking good. I guess I'll wait for a price drop and more patches to pick it up. I still haven't finished my DLC playthrough for Inqusition and Witcher 3 yet. I still have Baldur's Gate and Pillars of Eternity on to-play list. I'll survive.
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Post by VanSinn on Mar 20, 2017 7:41:20 GMT
Seems like general consensus is that MEA is a solid game with a lot of cool moments and systems, but is marred by technical issues, some weak writing and characters, and poor animation. Sounds about like every Mass Effect game ever, so... I'm good
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Post by n7vakarian on Mar 20, 2017 7:41:24 GMT
Yet these so called "professional reviewers" will give Zelda a 10 out of 10 a game I couldn't play for more than 30mins without turning off since it bored the crap out of me
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 20, 2017 7:41:57 GMT
Can someone tell me how the writing is? Everyone is either saying amazing gameplay, terrible facial animations but nothing about the writing. How is the dialogue? How are the characters? That was always the strong point in Bioware games. it's shit.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 20, 2017 7:42:29 GMT
I blame it on Ubisoft. Must be a Montreal thing. Still cannot wait as everything I have seen looks great. Gamespot also gave infamous 2 below a 7 and that game was incredible to me.
I did just talk to my friend who does character creators, facial design and animations for a living. He helped design the CC for fallout 4 and a bunch of NPCs. He's currently working on a different EA title but he did say the animations in ME:A are bad due to time restraints and possibly a tad to do with Montreal working on the game. he said EA knows the game will sell despite review and will continue to sell throughout the year hitting their target number to please investors.
This also buys bioware time to work on the game after release to fix everything. So hopefully people still buy the game and bioware will use these reviews as fire to improve the game!
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Post by farsight on Mar 20, 2017 7:42:33 GMT
The Lullaby of EA
Critics asleep amidst the trees Fans all a swaying in the breeze But one soul lies anxious wide awake Fearing all manner of trolls, streamers and execs For your dolly Polly sleep has flown Don't dare let her tremble alone For the EAexcutive, heartless, cold Paid in coin of gold He comes he'll go leave naught behind But heartache and woe Deep, deep woe Gamers are silent for the night Critics turned in as daylight dies But one soul lies anxious wide awake Fearing all manner of trolls, streamers and execs My dear dolly Polly shut your eyes Lie still, lie silent, utter no cries As the EAexcutive, brave and bold Paid in coin of gold He'll chop and slice you Cut and dice you Eat you up whole Eat you whole
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