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Post by Tarshana on Aug 20, 2016 2:39:53 GMT
In Mass Effect 1 Shepard learns that the first Anderson met up with Saren was when he was put up for Spectre nomination. There were two choices: let the bad guy run or help some people in a refinery. Saren blew up the people to get to the bad guy. When I went to do Zaeed's personal quest I was so hoping for a reference but there was none. In honour of Anderson I always take the Paragon route.
What route do you take?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 20, 2016 2:43:59 GMT
depends on the playthrough.
I've chosen the paragon route more than the renegade route
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Post by Obadiah on Aug 20, 2016 4:27:47 GMT
The Renegade route is so creepy. Everyone is crying and screaming... sheesh.
But, Zaeed satisfaction.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 20, 2016 5:23:30 GMT
I always take the Paragon route on that mission. I cannot in good conscious leave innocent people to be burned alive.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 20, 2016 7:39:47 GMT
I decide according to what kind of Shepard I'm playing. I think so far I went 4 times Paragon, 1 time Renegade.
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Post by stephenw32768 on Aug 20, 2016 9:56:08 GMT
Paragon on my first playthrough, and will do the same again. Zaeed and my Shepard are as far apart on the morality spectrum as it's possible to be.
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Post by Tonymac on Aug 20, 2016 14:31:45 GMT
I play it a bit more like Fraggle. Even if I do a Renegade run though, I have not gone and killed Zaeed.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 20, 2016 15:26:37 GMT
I play it a bit more like Fraggle. Even if I do a Renegade run though, I have not gone and killed Zaeed. Sometimes my own characters surprise me  Like my mission first FemShep, who technically should've gone after Vido to make sure the mission is a success and that Vido can't hurt anyone in the future, but then saved the workers because she was a Colonist and couldn't stand to leave innocents behind at that point. My other surprise was my Soldier, basically a good guy and Paragon, who should've saved the workers, but then he saw that Zaeed was right in that Vido should be stopped, so that in the long run he cannot cause harm anymore. Those were two great runs for me  |
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Post by yan on Aug 20, 2016 15:39:07 GMT
Sometimes renegade. If Vido get away alive, more inocent people will die. But Paragorn is my favorite, because in the renegade path, Zaeed dont work with his team, and you cant scold him for this.
Similarly, sometimes I kill Balak in ME1.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 20, 2016 15:46:08 GMT
But Paragorn is my favorite, because in the renegade path, Zaeed dont work with his team, and you cant scold him for this. In a way, it's pretty nice if you go Paragon but don't gain Zaeed's loyalty, then you send him to accompany the crew during the Suicide Mission. He'll die, but he died protecting people. I kinda really like that thought. |
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Post by melbella on Aug 20, 2016 16:29:42 GMT
I usually save the workers (the only reason they are in danger is because of Zaeed's torch-lighting, and I like being able to Paragon-punch him ). I went after Vido once or twice. |
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Post by bshep on Aug 20, 2016 18:41:50 GMT
I went renegade once just to see it but i can't follow with it. I have no problem in being bad with people who deserve but letting hundreds of innocents being burned alive isn't something my Shepard do.
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Post by Declan on Aug 20, 2016 22:26:51 GMT
Renegade. I didn't want to fail the mission and I wanted the scars yo
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Post by Nyx on Aug 21, 2016 1:40:33 GMT
I usually go Paragon and save the workers, but as others have pointed out, there are sometimes interesting reasons a particular Shepard might choose the Renegade path.
I never thought about not getting Zaeed's loyalty and then having him die protecting the crew on the way back to the Normandy. That seems like a fitting end for him. I might try that at least once. Haha.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 21, 2016 3:50:50 GMT
I've saved the workers, no matter what order you do Zaeed's mission, it doesn't affect the Blue Suns at all. Vido's just a glorified accountant, one hand writing the check works just as well as his so killing him's not going to faze a bunch of mercenaries. Look at Donner Voss, he made it through as leader after Vido.
Yeah, sorry Zaeed, I like you, but I was ok with not getting your loyalty if it came to that. Besides, we could have just hunted Vido down later. People's lives can't be saved later like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 4:37:53 GMT
I always take the Paragon route on that mission. I cannot in good conscious leave innocent people to be burned alive. Yeah, they never asked for this shit to happen to them. Also wanted to keep the employer happy. |
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Post by straykat on Aug 21, 2016 5:01:00 GMT
Cool... yeah, I also see the parallels with Zaeed and Anderson. Hell, with Shep too (I mean, Jokers compare them).
But in my main playthrough, I'm renegade in 1 and more neutral in 2.. I go Paragon on Zaeed though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 11:01:23 GMT
It's a lot like Bring Down the Sky. Let a few ppl die to get the super villain and stop his nefarious schemes. That's what some of my Sheps have thought, the other 2 saved the scientists. Now that I know that the leader of the Suns get killed by Zaeed anyway by ME3 it makes the choice kinda moot. But my Sheps don't know that at the time, and they also don't know that they won't get to whathisface in time if they save the ppl. So yeah both. I've yet to set Zaeed on fire though. But I will. One day  |
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Post by Darth Dennis on Aug 21, 2016 13:24:17 GMT
The DLC got "corrupted" before I could play it. Though apparently you can get Zaeed loyal anyway even if you do the Paragon option anyway, so it doesn't sound like a choice anyway. Though I would choose depending on what the current Shepard would do.
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Post by Beregond5 on Aug 21, 2016 14:30:28 GMT
I've yet to set Zaeed on fire though. But I will. One day You can do that? I'm tempted now... I always saved the workers, though there were those first couple of times that I hadn't gained Zaeed's loyalty, nor did I bother getting it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 15:52:04 GMT
I've yet to set Zaeed on fire though. But I will. One day You can do that? I'm tempted now... I always saved the workers, though there were those first couple of times that I hadn't gained Zaeed's loyalty, nor did I bother getting it. Yup. If you do his mission after the SM there's an option to blow him up. |
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Post by straykat on Aug 21, 2016 15:59:47 GMT
Yeah, that's the only flaw..has to be done post SM. Otherwise, I love the mission.
Not to get all philosophical or anything, but a lot of design of ME2 is done in parallel with ME1 to me. Omega is the anti-Citadel, Zaeed the anti-Anderson, Mordin the anti-Wrex.. Aria kind of an anti Shaira. I think even Jack is anti Liara in some ways. Down to being locked up and suspended in a similar way. The preaching Batarian kind of like the preaching Hanar. While Archangel is your constant, to guide you through the afterlife.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2016 16:11:20 GMT
I've yet to set Zaeed on fire though. But I will. One day You can do that? I'm tempted now... I always saved the workers, though there were those first couple of times that I hadn't gained Zaeed's loyalty, nor did I bother getting it. To have that happen, the suicide mission has to be completed. Choose to save the workers. You also need to have at least 2 other squadmates alive to have Zaeed die or the game defaults to him living. |
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Post by straykat on Aug 21, 2016 16:33:08 GMT
"Zaeed is like YOU.... except he takes checks." Killing him is like killing a part of myself. Which is kind of cool for the story, depending.  |
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Post by Mickymax69 on Aug 21, 2016 23:44:15 GMT
I went paragon. I 'm not sure my Shep is totally like him : it's Zaeed's egocentrism that places everybody in danger, just to reach his goal, kind of act I don't accept. Without entering the debate "I'm not using the Ghandi's style to solve a problem", Even if we kill, I don't kill freely nevermind who dies, that's why I take pleasure to remind him he's part of a team and had to respect the rules. I can't validate the argument & excuse to sacrifice some people just to save a lot more later, just to catch Vido; There's no emergency or ultimatum (like we have on the DLC "Arrival" where we kill just a few 300,000 Batarians  ), and Vido has his own free-will. It comes to my mind a quote from Gandalf :" True courage is about knowing not when to take a life but when to spare one." Even if it's a movie, I try to think in a same way. |
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Like my mission first FemShep, who technically should've gone after Vido to make sure the mission is a success and that Vido can't hurt anyone in the future, but then saved the workers because she was a Colonist and couldn't stand to leave innocents behind at that point.
), and Vido has his own free-will.