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Post by phoray on Mar 31, 2017 4:16:12 GMT
Obsidian Gryphon My impression of what a PAthfinder is/should be: - An expert survivalist, first and foremost. Which would give them a variety of skills; like how to test plant life for poison Ie, basics in botany
- a Knowledge of Terraforming. And I don't mean the massive planet melting kind; more the turning a sow's ear into a purse kind. So, the basic knowledge of how the ecosystem works and how one could bend it to the benefit the colonizing species.
- Indirectly, that means you have to have knowledge of the differences and needs of each species firmly in mind. but perhaps each ark had it's own species of pathfinder? which would mean a human pathfinder may not need to know these things, but then again, the species are diverse even on the human based ark. So, knowledge of anatomy and nutrition of multiple species.
- Leadership skills: if you lack charisma or the ability to command respect, no one will trust a word you're saying or want to follow you anywhere.
Does she have expert survival skills? Not that I saw from the trial. She was in the Milky Way and part of Government supported archelogical digs. Lunch was probably provided.
I see nothing in fem Ryder's history of the trial to support her having a knowledge of Terraforming, botany, anatomy of needs of the other species.
And I definitely didn't see Leadership Skills. Either the companions were blindly following her for no reason, or Tann and Addison were outright assuming she'd fail.
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Post by melbella on Mar 31, 2017 5:13:49 GMT
Did PB's loyalty mission - didn't shoot the rival.
Moved the story ahead by doing "Hunting the Archon." Ugh - I don't like these "someone is going to die no matter what" missions. Will pick the other choice next time.
On the plus side, I finally finally got the romance with Vetra out of limbo and now she and Scott are a thing. Sid is overjoyed. I didn't cheat at the rock climbing either. Btw, that rock was way more impressive in the cut scene than back in normal play mode.
Next up: more running around trying to clean up quests that keep popping up out of nowhere. Stop with the new stuff already so I can finish the game and then read all the spoilers!
PS: Is the side quest "Forgotten History" bugged? Every time I tag it as active I only get pointed back to the ship. Maybe I already have the other 2 artifacts and just need to turn them in?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 31, 2017 6:45:12 GMT
phoray Those are good points but they're more suited to a field research scientist. That's imho. A pathfinder is a trailblazer. The primary goal is to seek and then pinpoint viable planets for settlement; that's the point they keep harping on. Practical application is to scan / preliminary examination / mark the location. Teams of specialists will then follow, run in-depth studies / tests and relay their determination to the leaders on whom the final decision rests. It's a lengthy process with painstaking investigations that take months. Given ME technology, a month or less maybe? All of which is given a handwave and Ryder ended making the final decision. So what is Ryder? I've no idea. The pathfinder role is pretty muck up in MEA.
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Post by phoray on Mar 31, 2017 6:54:00 GMT
phoray Those are good points but they're more suited to a field research scientist. That's imho. A pathfinder is a trailblazer. The primary goal is to seek and then pinpoint viable planets for settlement; that's the point they keep harping on. Practical application is to scan / preliminary examination / mark the location. Teams of specialists will then follow, run in-depth studies / tests and relay their determination to the leaders on whom the final decision rests. It's a lengthy process with painstaking investigations that take months. Given ME technology, a month or less maybe? All of which is given a handwave and Ryder ended making the final decision. What trail are they blazing, though, honestly? 600 years ago, super powerful telescopes marked these worlds as viable, and had enough information to literally sell certain habitats as lush jungle worlds similar to Hawaii. What is a pathfinder going to do other than walk up to a planet already marked and be like, "Well lookee here. The Telescope was right. All ye field research scientists confirm that the plant life isn't 100% poisonous please. Job done, time for a beer."
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 31, 2017 7:13:13 GMT
phoray Those are good points but they're more suited to a field research scientist. That's imho. A pathfinder is a trailblazer. The primary goal is to seek and then pinpoint viable planets for settlement; that's the point they keep harping on. Practical application is to scan / preliminary examination / mark the location. Teams of specialists will then follow, run in-depth studies / tests and relay their determination to the leaders on whom the final decision rests. It's a lengthy process with painstaking investigations that take months. Given ME technology, a month or less maybe? All of which is given a handwave and Ryder ended making the final decision. What trail are they blazing, though, honestly? 600 years ago, super powerful telescopes marked these worlds as viable, and had enough information to literally sell certain habitats as lush jungle worlds similar to Hawaii. What is a pathfinder going to do other than walk up to a planet already marked and be like, "Well lookee here. The Telescope was right. All ye field research scientists confirm that the plant life isn't 100% poisonous please. Job done, time for a beer." Unfortunately, that's a sales spiel no one could check up on. No one would know the exact proceedings / investigations that went on back then, if they were even able to get such good details of the cluster. I would imagine somebody managing to get a good reading off a few planets, immediately mark them as habitable, get them verified as having a high probability of settlement and then start making sales pitch based on those sparse factors. I made an error when I said they harped on the point of Ryder finding new planets. It wasn't. By the time she showed up, Tann revealed they already did all the pathfinding in the cluster and they had found six habitable planets but there were problems with them. There wasn't any need for trailblazing! That's the joke. All the investigation of the cluster, research on possible planets was already done. They just want her to be the problem solver. Do the impossible; get those planets habitable. Most of the people acted like the pathfinder was someone who could perform miracles. Why did they have that opinion? It's ridiculous. P.S. I'm trying to see if I could start a second PT. I don't have that feeling of anticipation like I did with MET of which I played ME1 and 2 numerous times; I feel bored. I'm definitely and officially out of MEA.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 31, 2017 10:40:08 GMT
I sided with Sloane. Shot Reyes.
Nearing level 77
Romancing Liam
Will start Jaal's loyalty mission shortly
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 13:12:25 GMT
Well, after dealing with the industry for many years, my understanding of a Pathfinder is that is a position that is a "mitigation measure" to get the regulators to agree that there is something in place in case if something is not "going to be just fine". A PF is first and foremost a decision maker on-site, as opposite to the model they have in mind. The initiative would not have been allowed if it relied only on the remote sensing and modelling. It's idiotic.
Ryder was never meant to be a PF, and if everything worked out as planned, she'd be transferring her software in a hurry to someone distinguished. In the other Arcs I have seen, all the Pathfinders are senior and seasoned (I mean, a former specter is a second in command to the PF). Ryder is basically a corporate excuse and a last-ditch effort, and is given enough rope to hang her/himself by Tann and Co.
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Post by Lost Mercenary on Mar 31, 2017 13:20:08 GMT
Watched the multiplayer glitch up and crash the game 3 serperate times ¬_¬
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Post by bigevil on Mar 31, 2017 14:51:54 GMT
Today I cleared up some side missions, the remnant tiller, the Dr Kennedy thing, some other minor stuff. Also, finally found the last enemy to scan for the APEX mission on the Nexus, thought I'd never finish that, but the elite destroyer in the tiller mission was apparently it.
Also did Drack's loyalty mission. We killed a lot of fools, including Aroane and then I exiled Spender.
I've got Jaal and PeeBee's loyalty missions and a couple of other things I want to do, then I'm going to push on with hunting the Archon's ship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 0:47:04 GMT
Today Richard went back to Havarl and showed those Remnants who's boss! Well some of them. The turret dude still kicked his ass. So he just casually sneaked past that room. The rest of them are scrap metal. He also did some amateur archaeology and did some planet tech support. He then chatted with his squaddies before going to Voeld to fetch himself a Moshae. It went way better than expected. Prim'n'Proper did me a huge favor and glitched out during the last third of the fight. Had to take a break bit before that and when I came back she decided she just wanted to hover on the other side of the map. Sadly, her kindness was repaid by wrecking her base and shooting her in the face. Which is why you should never be nice to Richard.
Richard also visited Kadara. Refused to drink with Shena and managed to keep things civil with Sloane, so she showed off a more chill side of herself. Got the next plot forward point and managed to do the start of PeeBs loyalty mission. The enemies there were also nice and decided not to respawn after killing Richard on the first try. Which was awfully nice of them. So next time Richard gets loaded it's time for the final reckoning with the Havarl Remnant. Turret bot, you're going down, one way or another. Between that, might nudge some other Ryder's deeper in their stories. Because Turret bot is hard and I don't wanna.
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Post by indrexu on Apr 1, 2017 0:48:09 GMT
today Sara was forced to remember that Rank VIII gear and mods are broken for everything except crafting
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today Sara was forced to remember that Rank VIII gear and mods are broken for everything except crafting Yeah what is up with that? I am on a new game plus and i can't find rank 8 stuff as loot or on vendors!
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Post by indrexu on Apr 1, 2017 1:26:16 GMT
today Sara was forced to remember that Rank VIII gear and mods are broken for everything except crafting Yeah what is up with that? I am on a new game plus and i can't find rank 8 stuff as loot or on vendors! It's a Known Bug. Once you hit level 71, the Rank IX gear shows up as intended.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:27:45 GMT
Yeah what is up with that? I am on a new game plus and i can't find rank 8 stuff as loot or on vendors! It's a Known Bug. Once you hit level 71, the Rank IX gear shows up as intended. Well i hope it gets fixed soon. Don't have mods for my Sniper Rifle and it is driving me insane. Also takes a while to level up when you are in the 60 - 70 range. Might just put the playthrough on hold for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:52:59 GMT
Yay, I landed on Kadara. After a lot of talking to the team & catching up on a lot of e-mails (including a suddenly passionate love letter from Jaal).
I met Reyes and Sloane, both pretty neat characters, went to talk to the traitor, who is also a neat character, then had to go back to Tempest to talk to everyone and got a wagon-load of missions, because apparently that was a big point. Drack's stuff, and Cora's Loyalty mission, then I got a message from the Knight... and more messages from Nexus. Oh, and Turian Arc is also pointing to the same world Dracke has interest in....
There were crumbs all over the place, so I built a Humane trap as well as upgrades for Nomad, but I am not sure if I have it somewhere in the inventory or apply automatically?
To my surprise I have Harval and Voeld at 100% (Eos at 78%)...
Okay, I finally did all the talking except with Vetra because starting another Loyalty Mission can wait. I hope.
Landed back on Kadara and put Drack in the party for the first time, along with Jaal. Jaal did not like the overview of Kadara... maybe I should have asked Liam to come along.
Oh, my, new planet to explore... just too tired to start right now, but it sounds cool.
Finally, still think I will stick with Jaal in terms of my romantic prospects. Reyes is okay, but he is not Numen Brock. Aww, well, what can you do. Actually, he reminded me of Hunter, and seeing what happened to Hunter, I am just afraid to bite this time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 2:08:37 GMT
@domi For the trap, you go back to the pile of stuff where you found the last crumbs. You should be able to interact with the pile and set the trap. For the upgrades, I'm pretty sure they are applied automatically. -- May or may not have practiced tossing Chosen peeps around with Eric.
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Post by melbella on Apr 1, 2017 2:45:46 GMT
Is the quest "Dissension in the Ranks" bugged? The tracker leads me close to a Remnant outpost but nothing about kett anywhere in sight, other than being right next to the power base I destroyed about 60 hrs ago. This seems like kind of an important mission that shouldn't have issues like this.
Edit: figured it out with some help from Google - it's in a cave below where I was at
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Post by MisterMr. on Apr 1, 2017 3:16:49 GMT
Few days ago on Kadara I met with the "Don't Touch That" Easter Egg Salarian from the OT. It's these little things that make me love Bioware. I couldn't help but poorly edit a video together with one of my favorite 90's cartoons.
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Post by melbella on Apr 1, 2017 6:02:24 GMT
Scott did a lot of running, rovering, and flying here, there, and everywhere, chasing after every wild goose in the cluster.
Learned Dad's final secret and finally got to talk to Sara without needing SAM as an interface.
Currently chasing after some bad guys for Sid but the game froze while trying to land on Kadara, so I guess that means it's bed time.
I also counted about 20 instances where "quick save" would have come in really handy.
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Post by metta on Apr 1, 2017 6:25:43 GMT
Found a Scavenger on Elaaden with the same face as Liam, but with bright orange hair....
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Post by fraggle on Apr 1, 2017 16:49:19 GMT
Yay, I found my way here now Finished the game once and am now on NG+ for my Insanity and proper RP run of Cody Ryder. He's a Sentinel just because this was the class I never played before MEA was released Log#1 We're in Andromeda. Actually in Andromeda. Yet I can enjoy nothing of this incredible fact. The state of the golden worlds is disastrous, the other arks are missing, Sara's in a coma, we already lost one man down on Habitat 7, and then Dad died. He died giving his life for mine. We were never close and there's too much that he never knew about me or I about him. Still, it hurts. And now he made me Pathfinder. Me. I'm not prepared. I'm sitting inside the cabin of the ship the Nexus leaders gave me so I can fulfill my role, and slowly everything is starting to sink in. This wasn't how I imagined my coming here, but it's not like I have a choice. It must be done. We need to find a home for everyone, need to establish outposts and safe spots where we can send people to. Our survival depends on it. I know I'm not up for it, but I have to at least try. We are going to Eos first, where two outposts already failed, so I hope the 3rd time's a charm. Screenies: Curious Crow Nice theory about the helmet incident, I think the same about it. It was actually a fairly good scene too, though I got major flashbacks to ME2's opening
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Post by themikefest on Apr 1, 2017 17:27:50 GMT
Just finished my second playthrough level 85 83% completion 60 hours I will continue this playthrough. More for the fire team stuff. I need to recruit 6 teams to get the trophy. I will start a new game plus, plus playing as Scott to romance Cora. For now, I will finish an ME3 playthrough that I started just before MEA was released
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Post by bigevil on Apr 1, 2017 17:49:51 GMT
Today I recovered from the mission to infiltrate the Archon's ship. Talked to everyone. Drack was not a happy chappie since I rescued Raeka instead of his scouts. I couldn't help it, this Ryder is like Kirk, she was cute.
Picked up a bunch of new quests, tried to finish off some stuff on Aya (the things to help the Initiative ambassador, and talking to the Angara who remember the Kett's arrival), Kadara (the Baryite rush, the woman who was kicked out mistakenly).
I also went rock climbing with Vetra. That was a good scene, no jetpack cheating here though. And things finally progressed with Cora! I honestly thought I'd maybe bugged her romance out or something. Ryder kissed her in her garden.
I talked to the leadership about Meridian and they wimped out, glad the other Pathfinders had my back. Also, Sara woke up. I'd been waiting for that. I liked the start of the conversation, hugged her obviously, this Ryder's a hugger (hugged Cora and Jaal's mum). I think he must be a Bayley fan.
Then the conversation kind of plummeted for me. I get that they wanted to get a bunch of backstory across to the player, but it wasn't well handled IMO. "Hey Sister who is 1 minute my elder, tell me how mum and dad met." "Of course, Brother I've known my whole life, let me regale you with the mildly humourous story of our parent's meeting."
If they wanted to tell the players about these things, they had a good excuse to ask these questions. Sara just woke up from a coma, don't they check for memory loss? Have the Dr ask Ryder to question their sibling about things they both know, present it as the character knowing these things, but making sure the sibling remembers them correctly. Hell, you could even have the player decide some of the backstory by saying "You're a bit mixed up there sis/bro, this is what happened." I'm fine with the PC having a backstory, connections to characters, etc, especially family members, but don't present that information to me like my character doesn't know anything about their life prior to the game starting.
Well, I'm going to stop ranting and go eat. Later, it's time to begin the journey to Meridian.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 1, 2017 17:49:53 GMT
Voeld stuff for companions. Saved the Moshae. Did not destroy the centre and did not kill the Cardinal. Better explored Aya and saw its vault. Moved on to Kadara if only to open up more of the game. Met Sloane and got annoyed my Ryder went "Your majesty". Auto-dialogue is too jokey when I'm professional (and I imagine sometimes too straight-laced for the very casual RPers).
Gonna do some Kadara but not a ton, then move back to Nexus and the other previous 3 planets (especially Eos and Havari).
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Post by melbella on Apr 1, 2017 20:16:55 GMT
Dear Bioware,
You CANNOT invent a game called "Flamethrowing Thresher Maws of Doom" and NOT LET ME ACTUALLY PLAY IT!!!!
DLC requested.
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