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Post by LoonySpectre on Mar 22, 2017 12:34:07 GMT
On my PC, MEA wouldn't even start (as did DAI). Is the multiplayer worth it enough to upgrade?
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 22, 2017 13:23:51 GMT
I was just asking that myself too, as I get about an average of 50 fps on ultra settings with partial HBAO and temporal AA (full HBAO drasticaly tanked my fps in DAI so I'm not even trying it here). Should I upgrade to a GTX 1080 to get a solid 120 fps with the Ti version? (130+ for sure with upcoming Asus Strix) 100+ fps really does sound nice, as Andromeda doesn't run that great for me, and lowering the settings doesn't change much. It's... playable, but it could be much, much better. Let's look at the charts: This engine, just as The Witcher 3 for example if you're planning to play that too in the future just as I am, both seem to be very heavy GPU dependent with very little CPU bottleneck, as was tested in DAI: So is it worth it, will the MP be any good? I don't know, I'm still considering until Asus Strix gets released, but I would guess a yes, as I am thoroughly enjoying the SP right now and expect MP will be just as fun as ME3 was. I never bought such an expensive GPU before, but CPUs have been capped for quite a few years now, and with 1080 Ti you are future proofing yourself also for games like Star Citizen. For my case - having a card that can do 50 fps right now with very common stutters during scene transitions (specially interrior performance in Nomad can be very bad; a looot of stutters), upgrading to a middle of the road card like 980 Ti just doesn't make much sense right now. It costs almost the same as the 970 did, and you barely break the above 60 fps. But if you have nothing atm, then it's probably the best choice that delievers playable performance, even more so if you're stuck on a 60hz monitor. But if you have something that can do 144hz and/or gsync, then it's worth to consider getting the most out of your hardware, and this is where the 1080 cards come in. Of course not all games get full benefit from such a GPU but most do. While Overwatch runs stable for me at 140fps on ultra with the 970, I would still like to have games like Andromeda, Witcher, and any future games (including Star Citizen) playing stable at 100+. Sorry if I skipped on AMD as I don't know much about them, but they're in the chart too. So should you upgrade right now? I would say yes. But it depends on you whether you'll enjoy the game (and other games) to make it worth. Just keep in mind that it's not worth buying anything weaker than 980 Ti or at least regular 1080 for which I would recommend the Strix edition - it goes for 615€ on Amazon, which I think is a very reasonable price, and is the card I would recommend the most, as 980 Ti just barely does it these days, and they're not that far apart in the price, 1080 makes it worth it. And if you can afford, best choice would be to just go for the 1080 Ti once the custom models get released (should be in a few weeks), as you're literally getting better performance than a Titan XP for a cheaper price. P.S.: I did hear before that the game is also stuttering on higher end specs sometimes, so a top GPU might not completely fix it, but average fps of 100+ is still telling something. Besides, I didn't get any such stutters in DAI, so maybe they just need to patch Andromeda or the drivers a bit more to improve that performance.
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Post by fulcrum290 on Mar 22, 2017 13:43:50 GMT
If you are in then U.S. the grab RX 480/GTX 1060 for ~$250, can smash most games at 1080p, 1080p is very cheap to upgrade for the Ultra/High performance.
You need a new CPU too ? more RAM ?
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Post by LoonySpectre on Mar 22, 2017 13:54:44 GMT
I have Core i3.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 22, 2017 13:58:48 GMT
Buy a new PC instead of upgrading. I think it'll save you money to be honest.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 22, 2017 14:02:52 GMT
If you are in the U.S. the grab RX 480/GTX 1060 for ~$250, can smash most games at 1080p, 1080p is very cheap to upgrade for the Ultra/High performance. You need a new CPU too ? more RAM ? Too weak, this will not give you stable MEA performance. At least a bit better like a 980 Ti. At the very least. I have a this (well it's overclocked Strix 970 + manual overclock which is even better) on an overclocked Core i5 now and I am not happy with the performance, i.e. barely playable, frames are jumping 30-60, 50 is average in most places and is ok, but it's just not ideal. You really want 980 Ti to get 70+ stable at the least.
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Post by fulcrum290 on Mar 22, 2017 15:20:14 GMT
Too weak , this will not give you stable MEA performance. At least a bit better like a 980 Ti. At the very least. I have a this (well it's overclocked Strix 970 + manual overclock which is even better) on an overclocked Core i5 now and I am not happy with the performance, i.e. barely playable, frames are jumping 30-60, 50 is average in most places and is ok, but it's just not ideal. You really want 980 Ti to get 70+ stable at the least. Biower gonna Biower, 2 cards from 2016 built for 1080p ran Battlefield 1 just fine, MEA is not exactly a technical wonder. Anything below 1440p requiring a GTX 1070 is just lol
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 22, 2017 15:25:39 GMT
Too weak , this will not give you stable MEA performance. At least a bit better like a 980 Ti. At the very least. I have a this (well it's overclocked Strix 970 + manual overclock which is even better) on an overclocked Core i5 now and I am not happy with the performance, i.e. barely playable, frames are jumping 30-60, 50 is average in most places and is ok, but it's just not ideal. You really want 980 Ti to get 70+ stable at the least. Biower gonna Biower, 2 cards from 2016 built for 1080p ran Battlefield 1 just fine, MEA is not exactly a technical wonder. Anything below 1440p requiring a GTX 1070 is just lol I mean it runs, if 50 is good enough for you. I think Witcher runs pretty much the same, last I checked. I'm just glad it can even do 100+, there's still so many games today bottlenecked by CPU it's really worrying.
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Post by derrame on Mar 22, 2017 15:30:16 GMT
yes, it's totally worth it, i did
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Post by JiM on Mar 22, 2017 15:58:03 GMT
Biower gonna Biower, 2 cards from 2016 built for 1080p ran Battlefield 1 just fine, MEA is not exactly a technical wonder. Anything below 1440p requiring a GTX 1070 is just lol I mean it runs, if 50 is good enough for you. ...there's still so many games today bottlenecked by CPU it's really worrying. You are referencing an ultra settings benchmark here don't forget and the Frostbite engine is more GPU hungry as you can see by the CPU benchmarks. Only 10 FPS difference between an FX4100 and high end i7. That's not much considering the extreme performance difference between those two CPUs. Multiplayer (especially 64 player BF) is less forgiving on the CPU though.
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