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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 18, 2018 12:40:10 GMT
Classes aren't categorized like in ME3. Every character must be leveled up individually. Asari Duelist, for example, is vanguard; Angara Exemplar is engineer. Some chareaters are tricky, I will try to caregorize all of them when I come home.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 18, 2018 14:27:54 GMT
Some characters are obvious, but some, like Krogan Mercenary and Batarian Scrapper aren't... OK, let's try this...
Soldier Human Female/Male Soldier (Common) Turian Soldier (Uncommon) Krogan Mercenary (Rare) Turian Havoc Trooper (Rare) Batarian Scrapper (Rare) Vanguard Human Female/Male Vanguard (Common) Krogan Vanguard (Uncommon) Asari Duelist (Ultra Rare) Batarian Vanguard (Ultra Rare) Engineer Human Female/Male Engineer (Common) Krogan Engineer (Uncommon) Angara Insurgent (Rare) Salarian Architect (rare) Human Artificer (Rare) Salarian Operator (Ultra Rare) Angara Exemplar (Ultra Rare) Adept Human Female/Male Adept (Common) Asari Adept (Uncommon) Human Commando (Rare) Human Guardian (Rare) Human Kineticist (Ultra Rare) Krogan Gladiator (Ultra Rare) Sentinel Human Female/Male Sentinel (Common) Asari Sentinel (Uncommon) Human Juggernaut (Rare) Infiltrator Human Female/Male Infiltrator (Common) Salarian Infiltrator (Uncommon) Asari Huntress (Rare) Turian Agent (Rare) Angara Avenger (Ultra Rare)
Human Guardian/Angara Insurgent don't have Tech Armor but lean toward Sentinel class, but they can be categorized as Adept/Engineer as well.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 18, 2018 20:06:56 GMT
I would vote the Human Guardian as a Sentinel Me too, but since Volus Adept in ME3MP has Shield Boost as well and it's classified as Adept, I decided to put Guardian to Adept class. Same goes with Angara Insurgent; Volus Engineer in ME3MP has Proximity Mine, so I placed him in Engineer class. Juggy is pure Sentinel because Remnant Armor passive is very similar to Tech Armor passive. But classes in Andromeda MP are different, can't be categorized like they were in ME3MP, I just improvised
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Post by Smehur on Jul 21, 2018 13:15:57 GMT
Thanks, guys.
I have a few more silly questions:
1) Does Platinum have more waves than Gold? Or just more objective waves? 2) What does "Siphon" mean, next to weapon name? (like in the first few vanelsa's submissions) 3) For some reason I firmly believe (and, like, remember) that there was an "Escort" type of objective in MEAMP, where you escorted a civilian person. Have I dreamt it or what? Because a friend who plays is telling me that there's never been such a thing. 4) Is the Hack objective different from the Upload objective, or is it just two words for the same thing?
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 21, 2018 13:51:33 GMT
1) Just more objective waves 2) "Siphon" means health leech 3) Only in Tutorial mission, but it's not classic escort, its there just for learning mechanics 4) There are differences Maybe you should play the game and find answers by your self... If you don't want to play the game, why are you interested in it? EDIT: Just curious.
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 21, 2018 15:12:08 GMT
Smehur runs a Hall of Fame website for ME MP. He’s compiling the stats we post he into a searchable database.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 21, 2018 15:20:36 GMT
Why would he do that if he don't play the game? It would be better to give access to someone who plays, to you perhaps...
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Post by Sonashii on Jul 21, 2018 17:14:01 GMT
Smehur runs a Hall of Fame website for ME MP. She’s compiling the stats we post into a searchable database. Yes, that's the main reason. And she's been doing it for years now. And this may sound weird, but I know how much work it requires and how painful it is, to keep that at such a proffesional level. I know I might have complained a bit about slow updates in the past or rather lack of feedback between admins and contributors, but I can't imagine anybody else for this job So I think people can forgive her a small lack of knowledge I think Anyway, with that being said, here are two more bronze solos, I've done recently. I don't have any video footage from those runs, simply because I set my lobbies to public, which nobody joined. Human Female VanguardSonashii | 15:27 | Icebreaker | Outlaw | Bronze | Shorty Can't remember objectives though. But they were better than in my 1st solo. I think I had Devices and TargetsTurian SoldierSonashii | 16:15 | Paradox | Kett | Bronze | Valkyrie Delivery / Delivery
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 21, 2018 17:55:20 GMT
Didn't know Smehur is SHE. I had my fair share of maintaining sites and forums, even was owner of two of them. Said good bye to that. But I think that someone who don't have even base game knowledge shiuldn't have that responsibility. My goal is to solo Bronze in less than 10 minutes, but I'm to lazy to solo, never liked it, even in DAIMP where I am OP.
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Post by Smehur on Jul 21, 2018 19:02:31 GMT
Didn't know Smehur is SHE. I had my fair share of maintaining sites and forums, even was owner of two of them. Said good bye to that. But I think that someone who don't have even base game knowledge shiuldn't have that responsibility. You're right in many ways. I played MEA only a little, and a long time ago (at the time when I started this thread), and I don't know it very well. But I don't need to know it in order to run an archive of solo runs. To be honest, you need more knowledge about managing and querying tabular data than about the game mechanics. Only the very basic things are archived: kit, map, weapons and such. There's another thing, though. I'm not the owner of the site that hosts the archive so I can't give others edit permissions. But there are alternative ways to contribute, and I'm not doing it alone (in fact, nowadays I do less than half of all the stuff). Lastly, even if I could find someone to run a separate MEA section, and get them authorized, I'd still want to be involved because I love that stuff, I love Mass Effect, and I love this community. None of which would stand in the way of anyone doing this independently, on another site, for MEA exclusively. I'd totally support such a thing and help with it any way I can. But it might be too late in the game's life cycle to start it now. Many thanks for the info in any case. I hope you'll tolerate me if I come back with more noob questions. And Sonashii, thanks for the kind words.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 21, 2018 19:27:54 GMT
You don't need game knowledge to just fill solo information, you just need to copy/paste our description. I thought you are doing all game info and that can be hard for someone who don't play the game.
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 26, 2018 3:36:15 GMT
Angara InsurgentMadawot | 36:42 | Zero | Kett | Platinum | P.A.W. Siphon and N7 Valkyrie Siphon I haven’t playing lately, but decided to do a Platinum Solo with the Angara Insurgent today. He laid EMP Trip Mine traps for the Kett at both ends of Firebase Zero. Assault Turret wasn't used much as a decoy or for supplemental DPS since I only had 1 point specced in it. Auto-Aim was turned on my Xbox (usually I have it off), and it caused me to get downed a couple times when it decided to take control and switch to another target. Had two previous attempts against Outlaws. I hate Adhis, Berserker triplets, and Observers. So, back to the familiar Kett. Still, a tough mission and I jumped on the shuttle with only one Revive pack left. Objectives: Retrieval / Devices / Retrieval * Wave 1: 0:01:12 * Wave 2 Retrieval: 0:03:46 * Wave 3: 0:10:35 * Wave 4 Devices: 0:15:50 * Wave 5: 0:21:27 * Wave 6 Retrieval: 0:27:56 * Wave 7: 0:35:16 Build: thethirdrace.app.goo.gl/txCZ* Shield Boost: 4B 5A 6B * Assault Turret: 1 point * Trip Mine: 4A 5B 6B * Offensive Tech: 4A 5B 6A * Bioelectric Defense: 4A 5B 6A * P.A.W. Siphon II * N7 Valkyrie Siphon VI * Vulnerability VI * Disruptor Ammo II * Power Capacity Mod IV
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 26, 2018 3:39:09 GMT
This is not my video, but this is the fastest Platinum solo that I've seen thus far. Turian Havoc Trooper with the N7 Piranha Siphon on Firebase Magma against the Kett. Gryffindor did it in 15:48! Definitely worthy of being in the hall of fame.
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Post by Smehur on Jul 26, 2018 6:48:30 GMT
A small update on the situation: I've started archiving the submissions and I've come up with a way to incorporate them into Pres' site. I'm still ways away from having it all done, but it's happening!
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 26, 2018 21:57:21 GMT
This is not my video, but this is the fastest Platinum solo that I've seen thus far. Turian Havoc Trooper with the N7 Piranha Siphon on Firebase Magma against the Kett. Gryffindor did it in 15:48! Definitely worthy of being in the hall of fame. That health regen. Jeeeeez.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 26, 2018 23:34:18 GMT
Gryffindor did it in 15:48! Definitely worthy of being in the hall of fame. This is very suspicious. On PC you can reduce enemies damage output multiplier and increase your damage multiplier. He/she should have died from Ascendants orb numerous times, also health leeching is too fast and Flak Cannon is dealing too much damage to armor with stun evo.
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Post by vanelsa on Jul 27, 2018 5:19:23 GMT
Being on console, I don’t know all the tricks that a PC player can do. But I do know that a hovering Havoc Trooper can be very tanky and do tremendous damage output with Turbocharge, Sustained Fire, Flak Cannon, and a Piranha Siphon. Pota Pota’s sub-20 came on Sandstorm which is not the fastest map, so I know a low time is possible on a map like Magma. Flak Cannon will do a lot more damage with sustained fire active on the enemy?
One huge benefit that PC users do have over consoles is the ability to quickly swivel your character. I could never get the same performance out of the Havoc Trooper because it’s slow to turn her around to face the next enemy. I might adjust my controller sensitivity to see if I can improve my gameplay with her.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 27, 2018 16:45:37 GMT
I'm not implying anything, I just moticed few srtange things; will have to warch every detail in the video to prove/disapprove anything. Changing damage outputs by only 10% (debuff enemies and buff yor self) can be huge difference. I was testing 1.25 damage multiplier to both enemies and us with friends. You can feel the difference. 1.25 multiplier to enemies and 1.5 multiplier to us made platinum run much easier.
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Turian Havoc TrooperMadawot | 22:35 | Sandstorm | Outlaws | Platinum | N7 Piranha Siphon The Turian Havoc Trooper is the holder of some of the fastest Platinum solo times. Pota Pota did a 19:02 run (https://youtu.be/gTT4zHpcgt8) and Gryffindor recently completed a 15:48 run on Magma against Kett (https://youtu.be/cOwuUCfxcVA). While I did not get a sub-20, I’m happy with this 22:35 run on Sandstorm against Outlaws. I adjusted my X-Sensitivity on my Xbox controller to the max setting so I could swivel more quickly. I’m still not able to turn around as quickly as PC players. I only used the N7 Piranha Siphon and did not bring a secondary weapon. I specced her a little differently Gryffindor’s build, choosing Turbocharge 4B Duration and 6B Dump Heat instead of 4A Recharge and 6A Supercharge. Objectives: Boss / Devices / Boss * Wave 1: 0:01:04 * Wave 2 Boss: 0:03:34 * Wave 3: 0:06:10 * Wave 4 Devices: 0:09:59 * Wave 5: 0:13:37 * Wave 6 Boss: 0:18:23 * Wave 7: 0:21:03 I don’t fear the Outlaw Boss objective like I do the Kett, although having three Hydras on Wave 6 is not fun. What I do fear are those cheating Observers and biting Adhis on the first three waves. Build: thethirdrace.app.goo.gl/ehaX* Incinerate: 1 point * Turbocharge: 4B 5A 6B * Flak Cannon: 4B 5B 6B * Munitions Training: 4A 5B 6A * Aerial Assault: 4B 5A 6A * N7 Piranha Siphon II * Vulnerability VI * Shotgun Rail Amp IV * Universal Power Amp III
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Post by Smehur on Jul 28, 2018 7:31:56 GMT
Well, I assembled the submissions into a database similar to ME3 PHOF, and here's a preliminary report: For the time being, only solos will be archived. There were only a handful of submissions with non-solo games and I'm afraid that's not worth the effort of creating a framework for both data storage and presentation. My apologies to Xan , who posted several team runs with all the detail I could wish for. So far I archived 47 solos. Of those, 37 were done by vanelsa , and only 10 by other players; 33 are Platinum, 10 Gold, 1 Silver and 3 Bronze; 25 runs (almost 1/2) were on Sandstorm and 36 (more than 3/4) were against Kett. I guess that's the new White/Cerberus. I didn't archive several runs because they weren't submitted properly. For future reference, I will not watch a video (nor try to interpret a screenshot) to extract submission info. If you want your run archived, you'll have to submit it as per the instructions in the first post. This policy got established out of necessity while working with thousands of ME3 submissions and I see no good reason to change it for MEA. These are the runs that need to be resubmitted (please make a new post instead of editing the existing one): bsn.boards.net/post/1013411/threadbsn.boards.net/post/1025968/threadbsn.boards.net/post/1033660/threadbsn.boards.net/post/1093634/threadThis submission has a broken link: bsn.boards.net/post/1067290/threadQuestion for vanelsa : are all your runs on Xbox? It's how I archived them, but since you tagged them as such in the beginning and then stopped, I have to ask. Also, you mention solos with all MEA characters in your signatures. Are they all in this thread? Question for Sonashii (or, well, anyone who can tell me): what's "Shortie" (a weapon)? I can't find it in the list of MEA weapons. Your submissions in the following posts have it: bsn.boards.net/post/1085763/threadbsn.boards.net/post/1091084/threadOfficial, or at least clearly recognizable weapon names in the future, please. That's all for now, folks. I hope to have this up on the site in a week or so.
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Official, or at least clearly recognizable weapon names in the future, please. Oh Smehur.. I only use official names, you should know it by now Shorty is an official name of a shotgun in ME Andromeda. Shorty - DescriptionYou owe me a curry in Rocket League
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Post by SassaMFG on Jul 28, 2018 11:32:03 GMT
Maybe we should give you a list of all weapons and variants...
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Post by Smehur on Jul 28, 2018 18:32:14 GMT
Official, or at least clearly recognizable weapon names in the future, please. Oh Smehur.. I only use official names, you should know it by now Shorty is an official name of a shotgun in ME Andromeda. Shorty - DescriptionYou owe me a curry in Rocket League Hm. I took the data from here: masseffectandromeda.wiki.fextralife.com/Shotguns and Shorty is missing from my weapons list because it's not listed there. The reason I chose that website over wikia is that I can query the table from there directly (instead of manually typing or copy-pasting), but I guess it's not a trustworthy source. In any case, pardon my mistake. Shorty sounded like a nickname people might give to a weapon (like, you know, High Lord), so I assumed... Anyway, if you're even a little bit serious about Rocket League, come friend me on Steam! Same name as here, and always happy to play with fellow BSNers.
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Post by Smehur on Jul 28, 2018 18:52:41 GMT
Maybe we should give you a list of all weapons and variants... I have a better idea. I'll give you all the lists I have, and you can help me spot any problems, like other missing or incomplete categories. The first sheet contains the 'data model' and the second sheet contains the runs. Matching columns in Runs can only accept values defined in Categories. This is more or less what the database looks like. LinkieI'll be grateful for any feedback. PS I'm aware some things are incomplete, like Mission Modifiers and Achievements (which are a custom category, not tied to ingame stuff; in ME3 solos, this was for things like 10 waves survived, no missiles used, level 1 solo and so on). I plan to add more entires there as they come up in the submissions.
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