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Post by Silvery on Mar 24, 2017 20:04:19 GMT
So, I noticed on Monday (like I am sure most of you have) that Andromeda was not getting the best critic scores, which is strange for a Bioware game. This post made be think even more about it and the idea was nagging at me. So I went and compiled the critic scores from Metacritic for all of Bioware's games, giving them an average score. I did not bother with user reviews because they are now garbage on that site imo. I found these numbers interesting, so I hope someone else does too. *Did not count Jade Empire or Kotor iPhone/iPad reviews since it was a 10 years after OG launch for both. Although if anyone cares Kotor has a 88 on 17 reviews and Jade Empire has a 80 on 4 reviews. *No critic reviews for Xbox 360 or PS3 versions of DA:I. *Still one PC and one PS4 review in progress. Now, I know that critic scores do not matter personally since you can't judge a game until you play it. I know I have played games that have gotten score in the range or worse than ME: A and I loved them. Unfortunately, these score are important in the industry to publishers and the developers who make the game. However, these scores are not the be all end all as this study found that only the unweighted critical scores only had a slight impact on game sales. In the end I would imagine sales versus the cost of the game matter more to a publisher than the metacritic score, as past examples of games that have gotten sequels will show. Lastly, I can't figured out what is stranger that ME:3 was on the Wii U or that Bioware did a Sonic game. Update:Looked at the scores today when I when on Metacritic to check something else and did not realize how many more scores there were. I had though that there were only two more reviews in progress. I put the update side by side with the older score I had so the differences can be seen. Also added the lowest and highest review scores. Lowest Score: PS4 – Giant Bomb – 40 Highest Score: One – SomosXbox and Stevivor – 95
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Post by Cannibal on Mar 24, 2017 20:26:17 GMT
So according to "critics" mass effect andromeda is on the same level of sonic chronicles.
Now I know why I don't take them seriously.
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Post by Raga on Mar 24, 2017 20:34:50 GMT
Well, the old fart in me really wants to rub the BGII score in, but I'll shut up.
Also, to me the most noteworthy thing about this is that *every* Bioware game listed there has rated overall well compared to the vast majority of other games out there. This is like pointing out that one time an AB honor roll student made a C in some class they happened to hate. This is what's so tiresome about the "Bioware fangirl" accusations. Inasmuch as I'm guilty of fangirlism it's because of that list. When a company has spent 20 years churning out critically acclaimed games that I love there is ample concrete evidence to just say "no, really, they make good games."
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 24, 2017 21:15:44 GMT
I've not finished it yet but I am already having less issues with it than I did with Inquisition. Inquisition launched with terrible completely broken combat, a tactical camera that didn't work and still doesn't, almost no interesting side content outside of companion quests, a generic villain, plot holes all over the place and just really bad writing in general for parts of it, no proper ending (the real ending was released as DLC) and far more bugs than this game has. They weren't just graphical glitches either they were game breaking for some people. It was also a bad console port for PCs.
I still liked that game but it didn't deserve the amazing reviews it got. ME3 got amazing reviews to that didn't really go into how bad the ending was a lot of the time (tho to be fair most of the rest of ME3 was great) and DA2 got pretty good reviews as well, we all know what a mess that was.
Maybe the problem is not that this game is specifically bad, maybe it's just that critics have realised praising everything Bioware does only makes people take them less seriously, so now some of them are being more honest and some are coming down a bit too hard on this game. This is my thinking anyway. We shouldn't have a review system where anything under 80 is considered terrible so reviewers inflate their scores for AAA titles so as not to piss off certain major developers and or their fans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 21:39:44 GMT
So according to "critics" mass effect andromeda is on the same level of sonic chronicles. Now I know why I don't take them seriously. I haven't played that game, but it *might* be fair score. The thing with reviews is that the games are going to be compared, whether the reviewer intends to or not, to similar games from the same era. Andromeda isn't averaging a Metacritic score of 75 for how it stacks up against Sonic Chronicles, but rather how it stacks up against games like The Witcher 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Horizon: Zero Dawn, or the new Zelda game. Likewise the impressions critics had of the Sonic game would have been influenced by experiences they had from prior Sonic games, or similar games in 2007 or 2008.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 24, 2017 22:08:33 GMT
What did I say about Sonic Boom?
There it is again. Sonic Chronicles and Andromeda, same art director, same metascore.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2017 22:11:21 GMT
So according to "critics" mass effect andromeda is on the same level of sonic chronicles. Now I know why I don't take them seriously. I'd say ME3 averaging out to a 90.77 is reason enough not to take them seriously.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 24, 2017 22:11:58 GMT
OP are you trying to sell me that Jade Empire and DA2 are better games then ME:A?
You kinky piece of...
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 24, 2017 22:13:44 GMT
Review scores have changed over the years and only a few years ago places were a lot more willing to give 10s to complete piles of garbage. The catch is there are lot more review sites then before and anyone can call themselves a reviewer and then post a video on YouTube, which was just starting I think around the time of Mass Effect 3.
I have always hated looking at numbers for a game score for that is about the same as my saying that a game is a "One Jedi short of a full council", it makes no sense and really means nothing. Looking at the number scores for Dragon Age 2, I disagreed with a lot of the numerical scores, but the text that went along with them I agreed with and that is the same about Mass Effect: Andromeda, I am having fun with the game, but I also see the complaints.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 24, 2017 22:48:24 GMT
Fuck Critics. They gave ME3 a 9 despite its flaws.
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Post by joglee on Mar 24, 2017 23:08:04 GMT
So according to "critics" mass effect andromeda is on the same level of sonic chronicles. Now I know why I don't take them seriously. Well when places like IGN were giving it a 5 while giving Call of Duty and Madden games 10/10 year after year I never took them seriously.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 24, 2017 23:19:13 GMT
I've not finished it yet but I am already having less issues with it than I did with Inquisition. Inquisition launched with terrible completely broken combat, a tactical camera that didn't work and still doesn't, almost no interesting side content outside of companion quests, a generic villain, plot holes all over the place and just really bad writing in general for parts of it, no proper ending (the real ending was released as DLC) and far more bugs than this game has. They weren't just graphical glitches either they were game breaking for some people. It was also a bad console port for PCs. I still liked that game but it didn't deserve the amazing reviews it got. ME3 got amazing reviews to that didn't really go into how bad the ending was a lot of the time (tho to be fair most of the rest of ME3 was great) and DA2 got pretty good reviews as well, we all know what a mess that was. Maybe the problem is not that this game is specifically bad, maybe it's just that critics have realised praising everything Bioware does only makes people take them less seriously, so now some of them are being more honest and some are coming down a bit too hard on this game. This is my thinking anyway. We shouldn't have a review system where anything under 80 is considered terrible so reviewers inflate their scores for AAA titles so as not to piss off certain major developers and or their fans. I have to agree that MEA is thus far better than DAI, plus I'm referenced in this game. It still boggles me how DAI had such high scores. It probably has to do with progressive tripe that critics adore and possibly bought reviews. DAI score should be in the low 70's as well.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 24, 2017 23:22:11 GMT
So of the 16 games Bioware has developed, MEA turns out to be the second worst reviewed game of theirs. A hardy lol
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Post by Arcian on Mar 24, 2017 23:27:58 GMT
So according to "critics" mass effect andromeda is on the same level of sonic chronicles. Now I know why I don't take them seriously. I'd say ME3 averaging out to a 90.77 is reason enough not to take them seriously. ME3's problems were mainly narrative, and if the ending had been good, I think a lot of people - myself included - would have been willing to overlook the weaker parts of ME3, just like we did in ME2.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2017 23:30:47 GMT
I'd say ME3 averaging out to a 90.77 is reason enough not to take them seriously. ME3's problems were mainly narrative, and if the ending had been good, I think a lot of people - myself included - would have been willing to overlook the weaker parts of ME3, just like we did in ME2. I found ME2 to be rather dull.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 24, 2017 23:35:55 GMT
ME3's problems were mainly narrative, and if the ending had been good, I think a lot of people - myself included - would have been willing to overlook the weaker parts of ME3, just like we did in ME2. I found ME2 to be rather dull. Yeah, likewise. I replayed it an absolute shitton before ME3 was released because I was a Biodrone with nothing better to do, but I don't think I have completed a single ME2 playthrough since ME3 came out. Whenever I get a Mass Effect urge, it's a 50/50 choice between ME1 and ME3.
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Post by Silvery on Mar 25, 2017 0:27:44 GMT
OP are you trying to sell me that Jade Empire and DA2 are better games then ME:A? You kinky piece of... That's quite an accusation! I am shocked, shocked I say! In a seriousness I haven't played Andromeda yet so I could not personally say if it is better or worse then DA:2 or Jade Empire. The critic reviews are interesting but like I said you can only judge a game yourself. Mass Effect 1 is my favorite of the trilogy, even though it is the worse rated game.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 25, 2017 1:02:51 GMT
OP are you trying to sell me that Jade Empire and DA2 are better games then ME:A? You kinky piece of... That's quite an accusation! I am shocked, shocked I say! In a seriousness I haven't played Andromeda yet so I could not personally say if it is better or worse then DA:2 or Jade Empire. The critic reviews are interesting but like I said you can only judge a game yourself. Mass Effect 1 is my favorite of the trilogy, even though it is the worse rated game. Since mE1's the one you like the most you'ld give a shot to MEA. It's ME1... Revamped and better (IMO)
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 25, 2017 1:43:46 GMT
Fuck Critics. They gave ME3 a 9 despite its flaws. I was incredibly disappointed to see so many rank it that high... I mean, it IS a good game but it was such an obvious step backwards from 2 in my opinion. They improved things like squad banter, graphics, fleshed out the RPG elements of the combat more but the game was all combat, combat, combat in its pacing. We barely if ever met random NPCs during missions like the looters on Omega or the trapped family or that random tank-bred Krogan and couldn't holster, the writing was suddenly much more cringey etc. so many problems before the ending ruined everything even and everyone just went "Yup! Perfect sequel."
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Post by Silvery on Mar 25, 2017 4:04:31 GMT
That's quite an accusation! I am shocked, shocked I say! In a seriousness I haven't played Andromeda yet so I could not personally say if it is better or worse then DA:2 or Jade Empire. The critic reviews are interesting but like I said you can only judge a game yourself. Mass Effect 1 is my favorite of the trilogy, even though it is the worse rated game. Since mE1's the one you like the most you'ld give a shot to MEA. It's ME1... Revamped and better (IMO) I am definitely planning on getting it, but I am going to wait a few months so that the issues with the game can be patched.
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Post by qwib on Mar 25, 2017 6:41:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 7:20:47 GMT
I'd say ME3 averaging out to a 90.77 is reason enough not to take them seriously. ME3's problems were mainly narrative, and if the ending had been good, I think a lot of people - myself included - would have been willing to overlook the weaker parts of ME3, just like we did in ME2. This. A lot of people who hated the original endings also stated that it was shaping up to be their favorite game of the trilogy until the last 5 or 10 minutes of the game. That was a common statement on the old forums during the ending controversy. Most of the reviewers probably hadn't finished the game when they wrote their reviews.
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Post by Cassandra on Mar 25, 2017 8:18:56 GMT
I found ME2 to be rather dull. Yeah, likewise. I replayed it an absolute shitton before ME3 was released because I was a Biodrone with nothing better to do, but I don't think I have completed a single ME2 playthrough since ME3 came out. Whenever I get a Mass Effect urge, it's a 50/50 choice between ME1 and ME3. Another contributing factor is BioWare was under immense pressure to rush ME3, and it shows. As a result, many were willing to give those flaws something of a pass because the overall package they delivered was solid... until we met the Catalyst.
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Post by vanillah on Mar 25, 2017 8:33:08 GMT
After 40 hours of ME:A, I can affirm that Jade Empire is a superior game.
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