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Post by Gwyvian on May 5, 2017 22:10:20 GMT
Hm. Mid-30s feels young, given his position and how several people call him 'old man,' even if it's a joke, but I'm just trying to know for lore purposes. I'm not sold on one particular age over another, but I feel like he's going to inevitably make at least a side appearance in something that I write, so it'd be good to know. Well, I spoke to this on the Jaal thread already, I'm estimating late 30's to 40's at most. In my story I'm going for something around 38 or so I guess, because that's still on the relatively youngish side while encompassing what we know of his history and his knowledge, etc. Definitely no older than his 40's, as I said I think he exudes the kind of drive that is suggestive of a man still in his prime and that's the cap for me. He's got years on Jaal, their relative levels of maturity demonstrate that, but also I've never gotten the impression of a father figure thing going on between them which also is suggestive of a younger age, too young for that role. |
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Post by Salty Drell on May 5, 2017 22:11:06 GMT
mmmm there's too much estrogen here. i don't think evfra would like this Evfra would disapprove of your assumption of his disapproval. We know literally *nothing* about his personal life. So let the head cannons roll--Evfra x Scott or Evfra x Sara. Cool, here's my headcanon.  |
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Post by chococri on May 5, 2017 22:11:52 GMT
Hm. Mid-30s feels young, given his position and how several people call him 'old man,' even if it's a joke, but I'm just trying to know for lore purposes. I'm not sold on one particular age over another, but I feel like he's going to inevitably make at least a side appearance in something that I write, so it'd be good to know. Well, I spoke to this on the Jaal thread already, I'm estimating late 30's to 40's at most. In my story I'm going for something around 38 or so I guess, because that's still on the relatively youngish side while encompassing what we know of his history and his knowledge, etc. Definitely no older than his 40's, as I said I think he exudes the kind of drive that is suggestive of a man still in his prime and that's the cap for me. He's got years on Jaal, their relative levels of maturity demonstrate that, but also I've never gotten the impression of a father figure thing going on between them which also is suggestive of a younger age, too young for that role. ^ Honestly I said 32 because I want his romance but Ryder is just 22 LMAO But yeah..... Evfra might be... 40 lolzfack |
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Post by chococri on May 5, 2017 22:14:23 GMT
Evfra would disapprove of your assumption of his disapproval. We know literally *nothing* about his personal life. So let the head cannons roll--Evfra x Scott or Evfra x Sara. Cool, here's my headcanon. This made me laugh harder than it should, damn you pickle XDDD |
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Post by ReignitedN7 on May 5, 2017 22:15:15 GMT
Evfra would disapprove of your assumption of his disapproval. We know literally *nothing* about his personal life. So let the head cannons roll--Evfra x Scott or Evfra x Sara. Cool, here's my headcanon. Nicely put  |
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Post by Gwyvian on May 5, 2017 22:20:45 GMT
Well, I spoke to this on the Jaal thread already, I'm estimating late 30's to 40's at most. In my story I'm going for something around 38 or so I guess, because that's still on the relatively youngish side while encompassing what we know of his history and his knowledge, etc. Definitely no older than his 40's, as I said I think he exudes the kind of drive that is suggestive of a man still in his prime and that's the cap for me. He's got years on Jaal, their relative levels of maturity demonstrate that, but also I've never gotten the impression of a father figure thing going on between them which also is suggestive of a younger age, too young for that role. ^ Honestly I said 32 because I want his romance but Ryder is just 22 LMAO But yeah..... Evfra might be... 40 lolzfack I've been debating about this for some time actually. I mean, I launched into my Evfra fic without really considering some of the comments I've heard in-game (like the old man one, but honestly, I've heard people use that term IRL even with younger people just because of their relative roles, i.e. he's the big boss of everything and he's old enough not to be the young and brash leader, hence he's 'an old man'), but I think logically this age range still makes sense and isn't necessarily prohibitive to a romance with a 22-year-old. I mean, 20's is definitely too young, I think I could still see him on the younger end of 30's - hell, after what he's been through, he would have matured pretty damn fast and that just muddles up any guesses as to his age. I based my estimation on the fact that he's got knowledge of the angaran army falling, possibly from being witness to it, but I don't think he participated in it directly, possibly because he was too young. He's definitely too young to have seen the kett arrive, he's got a lifetime of them always being there decimating his people. We don't get an exact time period for the fall of angaran official bodies, but I do get the sense that the Resistance existed for some time already when he lost his family and stepped up as the leader he is today. But hey, if he's 40 or so, who cares?  He's still Evfra!  |
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Post by chococri on May 5, 2017 22:25:17 GMT
^ Honestly I said 32 because I want his romance but Ryder is just 22 LMAO But yeah..... Evfra might be... 40 lolzfack I've been debating about this for some time actually. I mean, I launched into my Evfra fic without really considering some of the comments I've heard in-game (like the old man one, but honestly, I've heard people use that term IRL even with younger people just because of their relative roles, i.e. he's the big boss of everything and he's old enough not to be the young and brash leader, hence he's 'an old man'), but I think logically this age range still makes sense and isn't necessarily prohibitive to a romance with a 22-year-old. I mean, 20's is definitely too young, I think I could still see him on the younger end of 30's - hell, after what he's been through, he would have matured pretty damn fast and that just muddles up any guesses as to his age. I based my estimation on the fact that he's got knowledge of the angaran army falling, possibly from being witness to it, but I don't think he participated in it directly, possibly because he was too young. He's definitely too young to have seen the kett arrive, he's got a lifetime of them always being there decimating his people. We don't get an exact time period for the fall of angaran official bodies, but I do get the sense that the Resistance existed for some time already when he lost his family and stepped up as the leader he is today. But hey, if he's 40 or so, who cares? He's still Evfra! Im just scared we wont get his romance that's all I dont give a shit if he is 1000 like Drack LOL |
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Post by caladrius on May 5, 2017 22:28:01 GMT
I wouldn't mind Evfra being 40-45. His age doesn't bother me, even if it's older, honestly. I mean, he's a squidman from space. The age gap doesn't seem like the weirdest thing about their relationship. Scott is the human Pathfinder. He's made multiple planets habitable and fought giant alien robots. I think he has the maturity and experience to enter a consensual relationship with another adult, even with an age gap. He's not a child.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 5, 2017 22:33:40 GMT
I've been debating about this for some time actually. I mean, I launched into my Evfra fic without really considering some of the comments I've heard in-game (like the old man one, but honestly, I've heard people use that term IRL even with younger people just because of their relative roles, i.e. he's the big boss of everything and he's old enough not to be the young and brash leader, hence he's 'an old man'), but I think logically this age range still makes sense and isn't necessarily prohibitive to a romance with a 22-year-old. I mean, 20's is definitely too young, I think I could still see him on the younger end of 30's - hell, after what he's been through, he would have matured pretty damn fast and that just muddles up any guesses as to his age. I based my estimation on the fact that he's got knowledge of the angaran army falling, possibly from being witness to it, but I don't think he participated in it directly, possibly because he was too young. He's definitely too young to have seen the kett arrive, he's got a lifetime of them always being there decimating his people. We don't get an exact time period for the fall of angaran official bodies, but I do get the sense that the Resistance existed for some time already when he lost his family and stepped up as the leader he is today. But hey, if he's 40 or so, who cares? He's still Evfra! Im just scared we wont get his romance that's all I dont give a shit if he is 1000 like Drack LOL Yeah, I get that. I'm honestly not sure if they would consider him just because of the technical difficulties it might present - I think they're aware of how popular Evfra is, but it might not be feasible to pull it off in terms of maybe breaking the game in the process.  I'm kind of hopeful for a DLC route, though, that would make sense and give more leeway technically speaking... I think. But then, also from the point of view of his character's design, I honestly can only see it happening with a great deal of background content and I'm not sure that is feasible even for a DLC... I don't know, I'm going to love Evfra even if he's never going to be a romance option and I'll keep writing fics about him, I've been down this road before with characters I adore who don't ever get even near to LI status. The important thing is that in my head he's totally got it, that's canon in my brain. |
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Post by ReignitedN7 on May 5, 2017 22:34:38 GMT
Cool, here's my headcanon. Nicely put Lets agree that we all love Evfra and we all want this grumpy angara to find happiness with our Ryders  |
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Post by kestrel on May 5, 2017 22:34:45 GMT
I'm making him 70 and none of you can stop me.
I'm just being a shit stirrer, ignore me. ;D
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Post by Salty Drell on May 5, 2017 22:37:51 GMT
Nicely put Lets agree that we all love Evfra and we all want this grumpy angara to find happiness with our Ryders  |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 5, 2017 22:39:04 GMT
I wouldn't mind Evfra being 40-45. His age doesn't bother me, even if it's older, honestly. I mean, he's a squidman from space. The age gap doesn't seem like the weirdest thing about their relationship. Scott is the human Pathfinder. He's made multiple planets habitable and fought giant alien robots. I think he has the maturity and experience to enter a consensual relationship with another adult, even with an age gap. He's not a child. I wonder what "old" Angara even look like. I didn't see any difference between Jaal and the Moshae, for instance, or Jaal and his other family members, that would denote a significant age gap. I wonder if that's intentional or if I missed some detail. Or maybe they just don't have the ability to render that stuff. |
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Post by kestrel on May 5, 2017 22:40:58 GMT
I wouldn't mind Evfra being 40-45. His age doesn't bother me, even if it's older, honestly. I mean, he's a squidman from space. The age gap doesn't seem like the weirdest thing about their relationship. Scott is the human Pathfinder. He's made multiple planets habitable and fought giant alien robots. I think he has the maturity and experience to enter a consensual relationship with another adult, even with an age gap. He's not a child. I wonder what "old" Angara even look like. I didn't see any difference between Jaal and the Moshae, for instance, or Jaal and his other family members, that would denote a significant age gap. I wonder if that's intentional or if I missed some detail. Or maybe they just don't have the ability to render that stuff. They either don't age, or Bioware was too lazy to make them age. It's really 50/50 as to which it could be, since the Moshae is 110 and doesn't look any older than Avela, who is around Jaal's age. None of the the aliens seem to age though- the krogan kind of get 'crustier' but an old asari looks identical to a young one, and who can tell with turians and salarians. I suppose quarians /could/ but we don't see their faces, so the point is kind of moot. |
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Post by ReignitedN7 on May 5, 2017 22:41:21 GMT
I'm making him 70 and none of you can stop me. I'm just being a shit stirrer, ignore me. ;D Hey, age is like a fine wine right?  |
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Post by edithshep on May 5, 2017 22:43:27 GMT
Hm. Mid-30s feels young, given his position and how several people call him 'old man,' even if it's a joke, but I'm just trying to know for lore purposes. I'm not sold on one particular age over another, but I feel like he's going to inevitably make at least a side appearance in something that I write, so it'd be good to know. Vehn calls him old man, but if vehn is young himself then old man isnt necessarily that old like? 30-40, maybes? anywho fine wine gets better with age, amirite |
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Post by Gwyvian on May 5, 2017 22:48:13 GMT
Hm. Mid-30s feels young, given his position and how several people call him 'old man,' even if it's a joke, but I'm just trying to know for lore purposes. I'm not sold on one particular age over another, but I feel like he's going to inevitably make at least a side appearance in something that I write, so it'd be good to know. Vehn calls him old man, but if vehn is young himself then old man isnt necessarily that old like? 30-40, maybes? anywho fine wine gets better with age, amirite Oh, hey, I've met some gentlemen IRL past 40 who could make anyone swoon if they so wished. Sometimes age really doesn't matter. |
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 5, 2017 23:09:40 GMT
I'm making him 70 and none of you can stop me. I'm just being a shit stirrer, ignore me. ;D I'd do the moshae and..after what they say about her she could go in over 70,80.. Hard to say with the angara.. (Rydad was at least 65 and looked okay) |
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Post by janalilith on May 6, 2017 0:37:13 GMT
There is that one older Angaran male you find in that room off to the side when you visit the scientists on Havarl - he even has an old crusty voice - he's complaining because a plant apparently attacked his shuttle and he can't get off Havarl LOL. He still looks pretty hot to me. >.>
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 6, 2017 1:11:38 GMT
All angara look hot for me.. Srsly i'm full of love, I'd take everyone who is willing to share their angaran love with me :3 I'm always squeeling wit delight when I hear Enroh lovingly bitching to Ohmdaal.. those two are a bit like a married couple and a fucking delight to listen to. Try it out, its great for your mood. also: yes, I think its that model but ingame he wears a bit different armor. I think they just modified the default male angara model with evfras skin color because again, usually he has fuller lips Im doing a comparison..so.. its really quite subtle.. but Im someone who tends to fixate on certain facial features.. because my brain is wank *yay*  |
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Post by janalilith on May 6, 2017 1:31:27 GMT
All angara look hot for me.. Srsly i'm full of love, I'd take everyone who is willing to share their angaran love with me :3 I'm always squeeling wit delight when I hear Enroh lovingly bitching to Ohmdaal.. those two are a bit like a married couple and a fucking delight to listen to. Try it out, its great for your mood. also: yes, I think its that model but ingame he wears a bit different armor. I think they just modified the default male angara model with evfras skin color because again, usually he has fuller lips Im doing a comparison..so.. its really quite subtle.. but Im someone who tends to fixate on certain facial features.. because my brain is wank *yay* The sides of his upper lip droop down a little - the better with which to frown . He's our Grumpy Cat. Or Grampy Cat if he's much older than we believe. Oh I love those two bickering LOL. They are delightful. Yeah, I'm a definite fan of the Angara. |
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 6, 2017 1:47:23 GMT
yeah, specially at the end when enroh gets ohmdaal to admit that he likes our chaotic asses bringing life into old offices |
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 1:49:49 GMT
Okay, it is absolutely stupid, but I have this thing where, if I really like a piece of media, then every song I hear becomes relevant to it somehow. Mass Effect: Andromeda I really like, so of course I have a lot of songs stuck in my head, and this is the one I clearly associate with Evfra. And I just cannot let it go. "The Price of Command" by Mercedes Lackey This is the price of commanding–- You always stand alone, Let no one near To see the fear Behind the mask you've grown This is the price of commanding This is the price of commanding–- That you watch your dearest die, Sending women and men To fight again, And you never tell them why This is the price of commanding This is the price of commanding–- That mistakes are signed in blood–- And that you won’t pay But others may, And your best may wind up dead This is the price of commanding This is the price of commanding–- All the death that haunt your sleep And you hope they forgive And so you live With your memories buried deep. This is the price of commanding. This is the price of commanding–- That if you won’t, others will. So take you post, Salute each ghost–- You’ve a debt to them to fill This is the price of commanding Okay, and at that I should probably log off and go to sleep before I die of embarrassment, because posting song lyrics is considered the lowest form of fangirling. Hope I won't wake up banned tomorrow  |
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Post by janalilith on May 6, 2017 1:59:32 GMT
LOL Beholderess (I do the same thing *cough* usually in the car on the way to work  ). Is that Mercedes Lackey as in the author of the "Last Herald Mage" series? |
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Post by Gwyvian on May 6, 2017 2:20:10 GMT
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