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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 6, 2017 2:42:49 GMT
its a bit funny to me how bad evfra is at being angara.. like hes more human than my blurty emotional ryder who cant control herself for shit.. which is... funny but also sad? I mean one would hope he'd.. idk pulll out the pain and "deal with it" as Jaal puts it nicely?
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Post by janalilith on May 6, 2017 3:02:40 GMT
its a bit funny to me how bad evfra is at being angara.. like hes more human than my blurty emotional ryder who cant control herself for shit.. which is... funny but also sad? I mean one would hope he'd.. idk pulll out the pain and "deal with it" as Jaal puts it nicely? That's interesting. I never thought of it that way. Is it because many other Angara we meet seem more joyful and curious? He's closed off and cautious. And when his interest is piqued, he seems embarrassed and grudging about it. Yeah, there's a LOT of pain there.
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Post by Psychedelic on May 6, 2017 3:15:23 GMT
its a bit funny to me how bad evfra is at being angara.. like hes more human than my blurty emotional ryder who cant control herself for shit.. which is... funny but also sad? I mean one would hope he'd.. idk pulll out the pain and "deal with it" as Jaal puts it nicely? That's interesting. I never thought of it that way. Is it because many other Angara we meet seem more joyful and curious? He's closed off and cautious. And when his interest is piqued, he seems embarrassed and grudging about it. Yeah, there's a LOT of pain there. I wouldn't say that Evfra hides his emotions in general, only when it gets personal. Remember the two Angara working on a shuttle, one of them is even afraid to say Evfra's name aloud because he might hear them (and he did). Our dear grumpy cat must have quite the temper sometimes. Governor Shie also said their "disussions" could get rather lively, or something to that effect. Interestingly he behaves himself when Ryder is around, but I get the strange urge to poke him a bit just to see him in action .
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 6, 2017 11:50:06 GMT
That's interesting. I never thought of it that way. Is it because many other Angara we meet seem more joyful and curious? He's closed off and cautious. And when his interest is piqued, he seems embarrassed and grudging about it. Yeah, there's a LOT of pain there. I wouldn't say that Evfra hides his emotions in general, only when it gets personal. Remember the two Angara working on a shuttle, one of them is even afraid to say Evfra's name aloud because he might hear them (and he did). Our dear grumpy cat must have quite the temper sometimes. Governor Shie also said their "disussions" could get rather lively, or something to that effect. Interestingly he behaves himself when Ryder is around, but I get the strange urge to poke him a bit just to see him in action . Well like he is defo closer with Jaal and with Moshae and Paraan, they respect each other and I think they also enjoy their squabbeling. But I do think he's far more guarded- like Paraan is too. the Moashe is also very un-angaran, never had a big family or kids, maybe even ace- she, evfra and paraan put their jobs in first place.. But we do that too as a pathfinder and we can get our time to fall in love or pine for unreachable hotties. I also think hes in general reserved, maybe because hes unagraan and project this gruffness, so people fear what he *could* do if he'd explode.. (which he doesn't seem to do, see those two mechanics.. I met men who were choclerics and evfra is not. Hes deliberate.) Because angara are open with their emotion i think maybe evfra might be scary for them because he isnt.. You get what i mean? At least thats my idea.. I also ask myself whether he falls for the old toxic human "Eat shit up until it kills you inside" or whether he just lets it out somewhere alone or maybe channels it into their spirited discussion? I mean the last email he sends Paraan after the ending seems.. idk, almost hopeful, giddy? So maybe those two are his confidantes because they can give him lip and not just slinker away submissively.. (If hes a top he'd like a pushy bottom, I'm sure *lol*)
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 13:20:59 GMT
LOL Beholderess (I do the same thing *cough* usually in the car on the way to work ). Is that Mercedes Lackey as in the author of the "Last Herald Mage" series? Yes, and I am glad to hear that I am not the only crazy person around
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:24:37 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform?
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 13:26:17 GMT
That's interesting. I never thought of it that way. Is it because many other Angara we meet seem more joyful and curious? He's closed off and cautious. And when his interest is piqued, he seems embarrassed and grudging about it. Yeah, there's a LOT of pain there. I wouldn't say that Evfra hides his emotions in general, only when it gets personal. Remember the two Angara working on a shuttle, one of them is even afraid to say Evfra's name aloud because he might hear them (and he did). Our dear grumpy cat must have quite the temper sometimes. Governor Shie also said their "disussions" could get rather lively, or something to that effect. Interestingly he behaves himself when Ryder is around, but I get the strange urge to poke him a bit just to see him in action . Not strange at all - it is exactly the reaction grumpy cats like him tend to inspire in me I also have the impression that he is not quite as upset at all the poking by Casual Ryder as he lets known
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 13:28:14 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform? They are said to have somewhat different culture and accents, so - maybe?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:50:21 GMT
I wouldn't say that Evfra hides his emotions in general, only when it gets personal. Remember the two Angara working on a shuttle, one of them is even afraid to say Evfra's name aloud because he might hear them (and he did). Our dear grumpy cat must have quite the temper sometimes. Governor Shie also said their "disussions" could get rather lively, or something to that effect. Interestingly he behaves himself when Ryder is around, but I get the strange urge to poke him a bit just to see him in action . Not strange at all - it is exactly the reaction grumpy cats like him tend to inspire in me I also have the impression that he is not quite as upset at all the poking by Casual Ryder as he lets known Lol. Evfra in conversation with Casual Ryder:
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Post by janalilith on May 6, 2017 14:31:32 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform? I know with the two different climates, Voeld and Havarl, they must have different customs because that alone will inspire that, but when Jaal talks about Angara, a lot of what he says is pretty universal for them. so it's hard to say. I haven't heard anything in the game, even in passing conversation, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 14:40:20 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform? I know with the two different climates, Voeld and Havarl, they must have different customs because that alone will inspire that, but when Jaal talks about Angara, a lot of what he says is pretty universal for them. so it's hard to say. I haven't heard anything in the game, even in passing conversation, though. Yeah that's what I was wondering about. It seems unrealistic that they'd be so homogeneous.
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 14:40:38 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform? I know with the two different climates, Voeld and Havarl, they must have different customs because that alone will inspire that, but when Jaal talks about Angara, a lot of what he says is pretty universal for them. so it's hard to say. I haven't heard anything in the game, even in passing conversation, though. The accents thing was mentioned explicitly in the game, though I don't remember where. In conversation with the governor, maybe?
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 6, 2017 15:00:25 GMT
Hey guys quick question: Does the game say anything about whether Angara from different planets have slightly different personality traits or are they pretty uniform? They are said to have somewhat different culture and accents, so - maybe? It would make sense? I mean even cultures we consider closer, like "western cultures" are anything but.. I for example read an interesting discussion about the differences of the judicial systems in germany compared to the US-the role of the state etc.. and during that it was again made obvious how different the ideas and assumption about the role of the government are between two cultures.. I mean people in Munich are different from people some small bavarian village who are different from people in Hamburg or from the Ruhr-area.. And we are different from people in Italy or Poland or Ireland or Luxemburg.. And people from texas are different from people in Alaska.. So..because I dislike the idea of angaras as hat.. I am sure they are.. I would assume voeldians as closer because often harsh environments forces cooperation, but also some sort if emotional defense because losses will be higher and sacrifices may be necessary.. So it makes sense that the warden of Techix would invite the Initiative because she knows that cooperation is essential and sharing of knowledge and manpower is the only way to survive in this kind of harsh environment. Ayas cycles would teach to expect losses and to be frugal, lava can destroy fields or settlements and space is limited, so people may be either more hard with defining boundaries or they may be, if collectivist, more willing to take a step back and share with others because that makes it easier for everyone. Havarl would favor people who are more daring and maybe skittisher, more reactive because the fast changes and high amount of predators and shifting nature would demand fast and easy adaptation. it would also like the others teach to not hang too much on goods because you can lose it in a second.. (also in my experience people who experienced displacement either react by find ding place and anchoring themselves to it, even if if it would be the wrong thing to do, forcing them into unhealthy dependencies because they so much want to just have a place that is safe, that is home and so they swear to themselves they will never lose it again, no matter the costs.. (which I can tell you, is a damn unhealthy way to live..)or they will become almost nomadic and forego any personal connections to spaces because they've learned they could lose it in any moment, nothing is safe or sacred.. I think Evfra is the latter, decided to not bind himself to anything. his men or hope or a place- although we meet him almost desperate because he doesnt want to lose voeld.. So it seems like he wants to be detached from emotion and connections to places and people, but he seems to grapple with it and maybe later, when the Ai shows they can be reliable partners, allows himself to form those connections again.
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Post by oh deer on May 6, 2017 16:41:01 GMT
mmmm there's too much estrogen here. i don't think evfra would like this Evfra would disapprove of your assumption of his disapproval. We know literally *nothing* about his personal life. So let the head cannons roll--Evfra x Scott or Evfra x Sara. Nah. Evfra's gay.
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Post by Salty Drell on May 6, 2017 16:56:02 GMT
Evfra would disapprove of your assumption of his disapproval. We know literally *nothing* about his personal life. So let the head cannons roll--Evfra x Scott or Evfra x Sara. Nah. Evfra's gay. Inside Evfra's mind:
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 17:15:25 GMT
As a bi/grey ace I honestly couldn't care less about his orientation. This is not why I adore him
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Post by beholderess on May 6, 2017 18:17:00 GMT
I just want to win his approval. To see him smile for once. And to present him with a head of the biggest, baddest kett there is, which is probably what it would take.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 7, 2017 1:02:24 GMT
I want gay Evfra so bad, guys.
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Post by Salty Drell on May 7, 2017 1:13:21 GMT
I want gay Evfra so bad, guys.
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Post by Suaimhneas on May 7, 2017 1:20:32 GMT
I want gay Evfra so bad, guys. Indeed...
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Post by janalilith on May 7, 2017 2:22:22 GMT
It would make sense? I mean even cultures we consider closer, like "western cultures" are anything but.. I for example read an interesting discussion about the differences of the judicial systems in germany compared to the US-the role of the state etc.. and during that it was again made obvious how different the ideas and assumption about the role of the government are between two cultures.. I mean people in Munich are different from people some small bavarian village who are different from people in Hamburg or from the Ruhr-area.. And we are different from people in Italy or Poland or Ireland or Luxemburg.. And people from texas are different from people in Alaska.. So..because I dislike the idea of angaras as hat.. I am sure they are.. I would assume voeldians as closer because often harsh environments forces cooperation, but also some sort if emotional defense because losses will be higher and sacrifices may be necessary.. So it makes sense that the warden of Techix would invite the Initiative because she knows that cooperation is essential and sharing of knowledge and manpower is the only way to survive in this kind of harsh environment. Ayas cycles would teach to expect losses and to be frugal, lava can destroy fields or settlements and space is limited, so people may be either more hard with defining boundaries or they may be, if collectivist, more willing to take a step back and share with others because that makes it easier for everyone. Havarl would favor people who are more daring and maybe skittisher, more reactive because the fast changes and high amount of predators and shifting nature would demand fast and easy adaptation. it would also like the others teach to not hang too much on goods because you can lose it in a second.. (also in my experience people who experienced displacement either react by find ding place and anchoring themselves to it, even if if it would be the wrong thing to do, forcing them into unhealthy dependencies because they so much want to just have a place that is safe, that is home and so they swear to themselves they will never lose it again, no matter the costs.. (which I can tell you, is a damn unhealthy way to live..)or they will become almost nomadic and forego any personal connections to spaces because they've learned they could lose it in any moment, nothing is safe or sacred.. I think Evfra is the latter, decided to not bind himself to anything. his men or hope or a place- although we meet him almost desperate because he doesnt want to lose voeld.. So it seems like he wants to be detached from emotion and connections to places and people, but he seems to grapple with it and maybe later, when the Ai shows they can be reliable partners, allows himself to form those connections again. Yeah, I moved from Brooklyn to Buffalo and that alone, even in the same State was a culture difference. For instance, they have butter lambs here. butter lambs lol When I first heard, "butter lamb" I thought it was a way to prepare lamb. >.> And they celebrate Dyngus Day. Now that's a culture shock lol But it's fun. Anyway so yeah it seems like the Angaran community, though spread over several planets is a small community. People recognize Jaal all over - yeah, they are in the resistance usually but still. Small... universe? Evfra does seem like one of those that would have few possessions and commitments. He's a workaholic that lives every waking moment for the resistance. Bioware, please give him love lol.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 7, 2017 2:40:26 GMT
It would make sense? I mean even cultures we consider closer, like "western cultures" are anything but.. I for example read an interesting discussion about the differences of the judicial systems in germany compared to the US-the role of the state etc.. and during that it was again made obvious how different the ideas and assumption about the role of the government are between two cultures.. I mean people in Munich are different from people some small bavarian village who are different from people in Hamburg or from the Ruhr-area.. And we are different from people in Italy or Poland or Ireland or Luxemburg.. And people from texas are different from people in Alaska.. So..because I dislike the idea of angaras as hat.. I am sure they are.. I would assume voeldians as closer because often harsh environments forces cooperation, but also some sort if emotional defense because losses will be higher and sacrifices may be necessary.. So it makes sense that the warden of Techix would invite the Initiative because she knows that cooperation is essential and sharing of knowledge and manpower is the only way to survive in this kind of harsh environment. Ayas cycles would teach to expect losses and to be frugal, lava can destroy fields or settlements and space is limited, so people may be either more hard with defining boundaries or they may be, if collectivist, more willing to take a step back and share with others because that makes it easier for everyone. Havarl would favor people who are more daring and maybe skittisher, more reactive because the fast changes and high amount of predators and shifting nature would demand fast and easy adaptation. it would also like the others teach to not hang too much on goods because you can lose it in a second.. (also in my experience people who experienced displacement either react by find ding place and anchoring themselves to it, even if if it would be the wrong thing to do, forcing them into unhealthy dependencies because they so much want to just have a place that is safe, that is home and so they swear to themselves they will never lose it again, no matter the costs.. (which I can tell you, is a damn unhealthy way to live..)or they will become almost nomadic and forego any personal connections to spaces because they've learned they could lose it in any moment, nothing is safe or sacred.. I think Evfra is the latter, decided to not bind himself to anything. his men or hope or a place- although we meet him almost desperate because he doesnt want to lose voeld.. So it seems like he wants to be detached from emotion and connections to places and people, but he seems to grapple with it and maybe later, when the Ai shows they can be reliable partners, allows himself to form those connections again. Yeah, I moved from Brooklyn to Buffalo and that alone, even in the same State was a culture difference. For instance, they have butter lambs here. butter lambs lol When I first heard, "butter lamb" I thought it was a way to prepare lamb. >.> And they celebrate Dyngus Day. Now that's a culture shock lol But it's fun. Anyway so yeah it seems like the Angaran community, though spread over several planets is a small community. People recognize Jaal all over - yeah, they are in the resistance usually but still. Small... universe? Evfra does seem like one of those that would have few possessions and commitments. He's a workaholic that lives every waking moment for the resistance. Bioware, please give him love lol. One possible explanation I have for this is their current situation, i.e. in a desperate war against the kett. I think a great deal of their respective cultures kind of got shunted into the background, it may be that their diversity just mixed in a melting pot way. I mean, we know that they have a rotation for living on Aya, plus I'm pretty sure that the Resistance sends/brings fighters to and from each angaran planet out of necessity, you can't avoid cultural fusion in those circumstances and this swapping is constant because of the war. Plus you predominantly meet Resistance/scientists and not that many civilians, we only really see Voeld's daars in action - we hear about cities and daars in other places, but either we find smoldering ruins (Kadara) or we're going to some research outpost (Havarl) that's nowhere near their settlements. I'd say there's plenty of room there for diversity that we're not seeing because of our relationship to the angara, which is still in its infancy and not much more than a political/military exchange and partnership. Aya doesn't count in this sense because everyone is part of the lottery to live in Aya, so there's little that's "predominantly Ayan" that we can tell, especially as outsiders.
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Post by janalilith on May 7, 2017 3:14:54 GMT
One possible explanation I have for this is their current situation, i.e. in a desperate war against the kett. I think a great deal of their respective cultures kind of got shunted into the background, it may be that their diversity just mixed in a melting pot way. I mean, we know that they have a rotation for living on Aya, plus I'm pretty sure that the Resistance sends/brings fighters to and from each angaran planet out of necessity, you can't avoid cultural fusion in those circumstances and this swapping is constant because of the war. Plus you predominantly meet Resistance/scientists and not that many civilians, we only really see Voeld's daars in action - we hear about cities and daars in other places, but either we find smoldering ruins (Kadara) or we're going to some research outpost (Havarl) that's nowhere near their settlements. I'd say there's plenty of room there for diversity that we're not seeing because of our relationship to the angara, which is still in its infancy and not much more than a political/military exchange and partnership. Aya doesn't count in this sense because everyone is part of the lottery to live in Aya, so there's little that's "predominantly Ayan" that we can tell, especially as outsiders. They have been fighting the Kett for a long time so if all their efforts are pretty much geared towards dealing with that, and trying to get their history back, so that makes sense. Yeah, Aya is a melting pot for sure with the Vasal (sp?) I wonder if Evfra will ever have to leave Aya? I suppose so since even the Governor said she'll eventually have to leave too.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 7, 2017 3:27:17 GMT
One possible explanation I have for this is their current situation, i.e. in a desperate war against the kett. I think a great deal of their respective cultures kind of got shunted into the background, it may be that their diversity just mixed in a melting pot way. I mean, we know that they have a rotation for living on Aya, plus I'm pretty sure that the Resistance sends/brings fighters to and from each angaran planet out of necessity, you can't avoid cultural fusion in those circumstances and this swapping is constant because of the war. Plus you predominantly meet Resistance/scientists and not that many civilians, we only really see Voeld's daars in action - we hear about cities and daars in other places, but either we find smoldering ruins (Kadara) or we're going to some research outpost (Havarl) that's nowhere near their settlements. I'd say there's plenty of room there for diversity that we're not seeing because of our relationship to the angara, which is still in its infancy and not much more than a political/military exchange and partnership. Aya doesn't count in this sense because everyone is part of the lottery to live in Aya, so there's little that's "predominantly Ayan" that we can tell, especially as outsiders. They have been fighting the Kett for a long time so if all their efforts are pretty much geared towards dealing with that, and trying to get their history back, so that makes sense. Yeah, Aya is a melting pot for sure with the Vasal (sp?) I wonder if Evfra will ever have to leave Aya? I suppose so since even the Governor said she'll eventually have to leave too. I was wondering about that! The Resistance has such a good setup there on Aya as the main base, I kind of feel like he'd be exempted - but I also feel that Evfra is not one of those characters who would give himself special treatment in that sense. It could be that he would just move to another Resistance base and make that the new HQ, like Voeld has a pretty good setup in that way, too. I don't know what Anjik would do, though. So, the Vesaal is totally a random selection as far as I understand it, so I think perhaps the HQ on Aya might remain sort of leaderless if Evfra left, unless someone like Anjik just happens to get the spot... I dunno, I've been puzzling over this for weeks.
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Post by dhalion on May 7, 2017 6:27:43 GMT
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