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Post by bloodmagereaver on Aug 23, 2016 16:45:00 GMT
Rumors have began that EA will remaster the original Mass Effect Trilogy and I decided to stake my opinion on how it should be done if ME1, ME2 and ME3 were remade into a single game:
1- Combat System:
- The entire Trilogy needs to be brought to the combat system of ME3 with classes, combat dodges, melees and power combos.
- Likewise, bring the weapon diversity from ME3 for the entire franchise.
- Remove Ammo Powers and replace them with the special rounds from MP, allow those to go from level I to V like other weapon mods. Add other powers to compensate*.
- Remove the submachinegun slot, no more ass stored guns, auto-pistols (EX: Shuriken, Hornet) will go into the pistol slot while long SMGs (EX: Locust, Hurricane) will go into the assault rifle slot.
- Make Shepard's armor customization purely cosmetic, stats modifiers should come from invisible upgrades like in ME3 MP or ME1.
1*- Modified Classes:
- Soldier: Concussion Shot / Frag Grenade / Carnage / Arc Grenade / Fortification / Combat Mastery / Fitness
- Vanguard: Carnage / Barrier / Pull / Biotic Charge / Shockwave / Nova / Assault Mastery / Fitness
- Infiltrator: Arc Grenade / Tactical Scan / Incinerate / Tactical Cloak / Sticky Grenade / Sabotage / Operational Mastery / Fitness
- Liara T'Soni: Singularity / Warp / Stasis / Biotic Orbs / Pure Biotic
- Garrus Vakarian: Concussive Shot / Overload / Stimulant Pack / Proximity Mine / Turian Rebel
- Urdnot Wrex: Carnage / Lift Grenade / Barrier / Lash / Krogan Battlemaster
- Kaidan Alenko: Reave / Barrier / Overload / Snap Freeze / Alliance Officer
- James Vega: Concussive Shot / Carnage / Fortification / Multi-Frag Grenade / Arms Master
- Jacob Taylor: Pull / Lift Grenade / Barrier / Slam / Cerberus Operative
- Grunt: Concussive Shot / Carnage / Fortification / Multi-Frag Grenade / Krogan Berserker
- Zaeed: Carnage / Concussive Shot / Arc Grenade / Inferno Grenade / Mercenary Veteran
- Kasumi Goto: Tactical Cloak / Overload / Tactical Scan / Decoy
- Jack: Shockwave / Pull / Warp / Biotic Flare :twisted: / Subject Zero
- New Bonus Powers: Biotic Orbs, Stimulant Pack, Snap Freeze, Multi-Frag Grenade
2- Exploration and resources:
- Planet scan is ME3 style, system scan is ME1 style. No more resource scanning by foot and no goddamn hacking games.
- Collectibles and resources spawn at random planets each new game.
- Mineral scans work like credit caches and show up in the white radar scanner.
- Eliminate fuel system, it's pointless micromanagement. Probes are also free.
- Full body suits for all squadmates in all games whenever they are in a hazardous environment, no more breathing masks protecting people from vacuum or below zero temperatures.
- Create Mako segments in ME3.
3- Story and Romance:
- Remove Jacob Taylor as romance option for Fem!Shep in ME2, replace him with Mordin Solus.
- Make Tali romanceable by both genders, Bro!Shep already got Bi!Kaidan, Fem!Shep deserves Bi!Tali.
- Make Javik into a full romance option for Fem!Shep in ME3.
- Change the reasons for Tali's recruitment mission, Haestrom's sun going bonkers doesn't fit in the rewritten canon. Make it about a prototype Dyson Sphere on that sun and the Quarians trying to figure out what the Geth are planning on the long run.
- Modify the ending of ME3 so that Control and Synthesis doesn't look like the Catalyst is trying to troll Shepard into suicide. To specify:
.Show Shepard entering an interface like the one he used with the Geth for Control instead of grabbing exposed wires like a suicidal moron.
.Show Shepard fusing with some magic space core to trigger Synthesis instead of just jumping into a beam of anti-matter like he is done with life.
If they followed those lines the remastered trilogy would be just perfect for me.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 23, 2016 18:33:31 GMT
"combat system brought to ME3 combat system" ...i'd prefer a mix of ME2 and ME3 : CD as in ME2, dodging as in ME3, grenades perhaps, take out Novaor maybe install a system similar to DA:I tree : you choose Nova OR faster CD.
those things could be debated forever but it's all rhetorical , and there will never be consensus.
Instead i suggest we let EA confirm and do the remaster so that afterward we can complain and criticize and moan and groan and whine and lick boots and , well , that's it.
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Post by kevpool184 on Aug 23, 2016 19:52:07 GMT
Rumors have began that EA will remaster the original Mass Effect Trilogy and I decided to stake my opinion on how it should be done if ME1, ME2 and ME3 were remade into a single game: SNIPnot trying to be rude, but reading through all this makes me feel like you don't want a remaster of the actual game but an almost completely different version of it.
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Post by Pearl on Aug 23, 2016 20:34:52 GMT
What you're asking for is a complete remake of the entire franchise. No way in hell that's happening.
A remaster would just be increasing the graphical fidelity (+60FPS for consoles) and maybe fixing some minor bugs.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Aug 24, 2016 2:56:35 GMT
That "remaster/remake/new game" would probably take three years to finish building from the ground up. Because lets face it, you're asking for a new game. I'll be happy playing Arrival and the ME1 dlc for the first time, only with a PS4.
Failing that I'll pay for Arrival on Xbox360 cheaper than buying it all again for PS4.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 4:55:25 GMT
How about we don't remake/rerelease/"remaster" a game that was released only last generation and focus on new shit? I don't want to see it and don't care for these ploys to get people to rebuy recent games. You wanna remaster something gaming industry? Remaster Orcarina of Time. Remaster Tekken 3. Remaster Primal. Remaster Goldeneye (well, that was poorly done on 360 a few years ago). Remaster old stuff that may have been forgotten about and buried in history and inflation of mediocrity. The Mass Effect games have aged pretty well. There's no need for it.
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Post by Grim on Aug 24, 2016 5:05:15 GMT
Depressed: I personally need it because my ps3 slim (after 5 years of nothing wrong) decided it doesn't want to work mid me playing the game, the day after I bought the citadel DLC (so I never played it). So EA do it for me, customer #6,753,647,364,736.
Relaxed: Seriously though OP, you're asking for a remake, not a remaster, there's a difference between the two & the one you're asking for would take as much time as a brand new game start to finish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 5:46:57 GMT
Depends on how easily unreal projects can be ported into frostbite. Quality of the code base would also come into play
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 6:59:51 GMT
How about we don't remake/rerelease/"remaster" a game that was released only last generation and focus on new shit? I don't want to see it and don't care for these ploys to get people to rebuy recent games. You wanna remaster something gaming industry? Remaster Orcarina of Time. Remaster Tekken 3. Remaster Primal. Remaster Goldeneye (well, that was poorly done on 360 a few years ago). Remaster old stuff that may have been forgotten about and buried in history and inflation of mediocrity. The Mass Effect games have aged pretty well. There's no need for it. Not every gamer kept their PS3 or 360s though, since some of those gamers may have sold them just to get that PS4. Not everyone has disposable cash.
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Post by ssvtbilisi on Aug 24, 2016 7:34:10 GMT
I LOVE combat system of me1, its so nostalgic and somewhat iconic to the game just leave it alone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 8:45:12 GMT
3- Story and Romance:- Remove Jacob Taylor as romance option for Fem!Shep in ME2, replace him with Mordin Solus. hohoho .... I wish I could try to romance Mordin. At this rate, I'll also ask them to not kill Nihlus ! Stay cool OP, it's just a remaster not a remake you're asking a bit too much I think. And to tbh I like the trilogy like it is. Not sure it needs a remaster or anything, I'd like them to focus on new games ~
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Post by cribbian on Aug 24, 2016 13:03:33 GMT
I'd rather see remasters of KotOR and JE.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Aug 24, 2016 13:20:53 GMT
Well...
I guess I did confuse remaster with remake, however, they would have to replace every model and animation from the Unreal Engine with a Frostbite one so might as well just rebuild everything from scratch.
I am no coder but I think it's actually easier to just port the character system from ME3 (which is an updated version of ME2) and place it on an ME1 world rebuild with Frostbite than port the code of each installment separately.
In all likelihood, they will use the Mako coding straight from Andromeda rather than port that crap from ME1.
As for romance, my opinion stands, they just need to record a few more lines from VAs and change some booleans to make Tali bisexual which is very easy to accomplish and is something a lot of people have been asking for years. As for trading Jacob for Mordin, the effort is more than worth it and if it can't be done at least remove Jacob as a LI because he is a cucking deadend with little personality to speak of.
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Post by kevpool184 on Aug 24, 2016 19:58:41 GMT
How about we don't remake/rerelease/"remaster" a game that was released only last generation and focus on new shit? I don't want to see it and don't care for these ploys to get people to rebuy recent games. You wanna remaster something gaming industry? Remaster Orcarina of Time. Remaster Tekken 3. Remaster Primal. Remaster Goldeneye (well, that was poorly done on 360 a few years ago). Remaster old stuff that may have been forgotten about and buried in history and inflation of mediocrity. The Mass Effect games have aged pretty well. There's no need for it.first, speak for yourself second, in my opinion, and i'm by far not the only one with that opinion, there definitely is. the ME trilogy is a pretty much everything else than just another generic sci-fi shooter. it is an unique trilogy in the history of of gaming. and i, pretty sure not being the only one to do so, sold my 360 when i switched to the XB1, with all my games including the trilogy for which i bought almost every DLC available. altough i'm having my XB1 for some time already, from time to time, i get the urge the replay my favorite trilogy. but right now, i'm not able to, since there's only a crappy download version of ME1 on xbox live. so yeah, for people like me (and if i had to guess, there's enough of "us" who'd willingly pay again for ME1-3) there is a great need for remaster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 23:08:47 GMT
How about we don't remake/rerelease/"remaster" a game that was released only last generation and focus on new shit? I don't want to see it and don't care for these ploys to get people to rebuy recent games. You wanna remaster something gaming industry? Remaster Orcarina of Time. Remaster Tekken 3. Remaster Primal. Remaster Goldeneye (well, that was poorly done on 360 a few years ago). Remaster old stuff that may have been forgotten about and buried in history and inflation of mediocrity. The Mass Effect games have aged pretty well. There's no need for it.first, speak for yourself second, in my opinion, and i'm by far not the only one with that opinion, there definitely is. the ME trilogy is a pretty much everything else than just another generic sci-fi shooter. it is an unique trilogy in the history of of gaming. and i, pretty sure not being the only one to do so, sold my 360 when i switched to the XB1, with all my games including the trilogy for which i bought almost every DLC available. altough i'm having my XB1 for some time already, from time to time, i get the urge the replay my favorite trilogy. but right now, i'm not able to, since there's only a crappy download version of ME1 on xbox live. so yeah, for people like me (and if i had to guess, there's enough of "us" who'd willingly pay again for ME1-3) there is a great need for remaster. Well, my posts are always based on my opinion unless I state or prove otherwise. However, if you're pressed for money, why are you buying a game you own and have/have had access to again? I say this because I've only sold one console since NES and that was my Saturn. Everything else as well as those consoles' libraries are mostly intact. Those trade in gimmicks aren't worth the credit they give. When it comes to remastering or "HD" collections, I've always been against them if they were within the last gen. Most of the time, you're not getting anything new but we've been down this road of differing opinions. If they do it, that's fine but I would rather see something that is rare these days or nearly impossible to find new.
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Post by Lavochkin on Aug 25, 2016 1:21:06 GMT
ME2 wouldn't be too hard to bring up to par gameplay-wise with ME3, but apart from that, I'd like for "Disc 2" companions (Thane,Samara,etc) to be able to be recruited pre-Horizon(there's cut audio dialogue of them posted on YT).
ME1 would require A LOT of work to bring up to par with ME3, but at the very least they need to remove auto-loot and add a "reduce all to omni-gel" option when looting(lord knows there's no shortage of junk in that game). That'd solve a major pet peeve of mine from that.
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Post by cribbian on Aug 25, 2016 11:03:57 GMT
ME2 wouldn't be too hard to bring up to par gameplay-wise with ME3, but apart from that, I'd like for "Disc 2" companions (Thane,Samara,etc) to be able to be recruited pre-Horizon(there's cut audio dialogue of them posted on YT). That's something that would have to be included for me to consider a purchase.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Aug 25, 2016 11:30:13 GMT
Remake's not gonna happen, but I would love to see the remastered version for PS4.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 25, 2016 11:38:23 GMT
If we did get a series re-mastered collection announced shortly that would probably mean in all likelihood that ME:A is going to be delayed until late summer / holiday season 2017 as we saw with Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection when Uncharted 4 got delayed months so it's not outside the realms of probability.
If we did get one I would expect it to include the dlc but if we do get any new content it's likely to be a couple of multiplayer maps inspired by locations from past games such as Illium, Omega, Citadel, etc. which would be awesome. They'd probably close down the old servers to get existing players to jump ship. Rockstar let migrating gta5 gamers keep their old gear so it's possible BioWare could do the same.
Additionally they might even include new faction gameplay (Blue Suns, Eclipse, Blood Pack) and character cards to get people back into multiplayer especially if you have to start from scratch all over again.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Aug 25, 2016 13:13:27 GMT
Remake's not gonna happen, but I would love to see the remastered version for PS4. The problem with remastering ME1 is that it's too different from the sequels and if they ever make a remaster, they will make one of the entire trilogy. If we did get a series re-mastered collection announced shortly that would probably mean in all likelihood that ME:A is going to be delayed until late summer / holiday season 2017 as we saw with Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection when Uncharted 4 got delayed months so it's not outside the realms of probability. If we did get one I would expect it to include the dlc but if we do get any new content it's likely to be a couple of multiplayer maps inspired by locations from past games such as Illium, Omega, Citadel, etc. which would be awesome. They'd probably close down the old servers to get existing players to jump ship. Rockstar let migrating gta5 gamers keep their old gear so it's possible BioWare could do the same. Additionally they might even include new faction gameplay (Blue Suns, Eclipse, Blood Pack) and character cards to get people back into multiplayer especially if you have to start from scratch all over again. It's more likely that the remastered collection would only be announced after MEA is out, at this point they are only considering the possibility. I am fairly sure that they will recycle as many textures as possible from MEA to put into the remastered MET. ME2 wouldn't be too hard to bring up to par gameplay-wise with ME3, but apart from that, I'd like for "Disc 2" companions (Thane,Samara,etc) to be able to be recruited pre-Horizon(there's cut audio dialogue of them posted on YT). ME1 would require A LOT of work to bring up to par with ME3, but at the very least they need to remove auto-loot and add a "reduce all to omni-gel" option when looting(lord knows there's no shortage of junk in that game). That'd solve a major pet peeve of mine from that. Not sure if it's possible to alter ME2 story to that extent but I sure would love if they removed that mandatory plot progression tossing you into Horizon and the Collector Ship without warning or option. ME1 would be better without random loot at all, ME3 got it right with fixed store inventories and fixed mission collectibles. Ideally we should have access to certain weapons, upgrades and credits in ME1 which could be carried over to ME2 and both to ME3 without the need to purchase them again in the next installment.
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Post by The Elcor Spectre on Aug 25, 2016 15:56:10 GMT
I'd just take the normal remaster, thanks.
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Post by goishen on Aug 26, 2016 16:11:12 GMT
See, this is what I'm worried about. All of these people that are crying, "WE WANT A REMASTER!" and as soon as anyone at EA/BioWare puts out there that they might be thinking of doing a remaster you get this. They not only want a remaster, they want the entire game revamped.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Aug 26, 2016 19:21:07 GMT
Well... See, this is what I'm worried about. All of these people that are crying, "WE WANT A REMASTER!" and as soon as anyone at EA/BioWare puts out there that they might be thinking of doing a remaster you get this. They not only want a remaster, they want the entire game revamped. What is wrong about that? If you are going to remaster a 10 year old game and it's sequels, might aswell remake the whole thing a one game with updated visuals and mechanics.
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Post by kevpool184 on Aug 26, 2016 19:43:11 GMT
Well... See, this is what I'm worried about. All of these people that are crying, "WE WANT A REMASTER!" and as soon as anyone at EA/BioWare puts out there that they might be thinking of doing a remaster you get this. They not only want a remaster, they want the entire game revamped. What is wrong about that? If you are going to remaster a 10 year old game and it's sequels, might aswell remake the whole thing a one game with updated visuals and mechanics. pretty simple, why try to make a new game from an old one when you can make instead...you know, just make a new one? ever thought about the fact, that people maybe simply wanna play their favourite trilogy updated on a new console, as they remember it and used to know?
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Post by Furisco on Aug 27, 2016 2:05:52 GMT
Remaster and Remake are two different things.
Want a great example of a Remake? Resident Evil Remake. They remade RE1 from scratch and added a lot of new things to the story and gameplay. (What a great game) A great example of remaster? Halo 2 in the Halo Colletion. The only made the game a lot prettier and made it run better.
You want new romances, new missions and new gameplay for ME1 and 2 and this is a Remake, not a remaster.
I don't want to be rude, i would love a Mass Effect 1 Remake and a remade Priority Earth, but they probably won't do it.
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