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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Mar 27, 2017 0:59:47 GMT
Yeah, Bioware should focus in making a RPG of Tetris now.
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Post by akots on Mar 27, 2017 1:09:34 GMT
... The other tangent to that is how to approach making that game about politics, and talking down to your customers and fans like they're unaware braindead idiots, whom haven't ever seen or BEEN or experienced those things you're so eagerly hamfisting into your Joss Whedon reject bin plots to show how clever and political savvy you are isn't particularly bright and certainly isn't good writing of any kind. ... It might not necessarily be a bad thing by itself. Depends on how it is approached and how good the story is. Bad writer is going to be bad regardless of the subject and good writer can turn even an ugly subject into a masterpiece. You've got to have some gift, it is not just a matter or persistence and hard work. The company can pay 40 million to a bad writer but it is not going to help.
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Post by cryptic137 on Mar 27, 2017 3:01:45 GMT
20 hours of mp isnt playing long enough? thats almost an entire day within the release week, how long have you been playing? no seriously, id like to know which bugs you are refering to. rubberbanding and connection issues arent theoretically bugs, its just bad hosts. frequent game crashes, credits not going into effect a couple of times, devices screwing up costing me games, laglaglag, can't think of more off the top of my head because I have to go to work. The game outright crashing is what makes it the most unplayable. As of now I have about 80 hrs in with the 10 from the trial. that "bug" with the credits isnt a bug, the mass effect server seem a little overwhelmed due to connection issues. i noticed it too but you will get the credits later. this is the exact same thing that has happened in ME3 when it came out. As i said, lag isnt a bug and after the first patch there should be less lag (trial mp was almost unplayable for me due to lag, first patched fixed that). may i ask what your harware specs are? i noticed the crashes in the trial as well, but they stopped for me with the first patch.
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Post by sosseres on Mar 27, 2017 4:13:50 GMT
frequent game crashes, credits not going into effect a couple of times, devices screwing up costing me games, laglaglag, can't think of more off the top of my head because I have to go to work. The game outright crashing is what makes it the most unplayable. As of now I have about 80 hrs in with the 10 from the trial. that "bug" with the credits isnt a bug, the mass effect server seem a little overwhelmed due to connection issues. i noticed it too but you will get the credits later. this is the exact same thing that has happened in ME3 when it came out. As i said, lag isnt a bug and after the first patch there should be less lag (trial mp was almost unplayable for me due to lag, first patched fixed that). may i ask what your harware specs are? i noticed the crashes in the trial as well, but they stopped for me with the first patch. I had my first crash today. 3 others also crashed in a series of hosts. Think it was a connection issue causing the game to crash to desktop instead of disconnecting or lagging. We changed host after my crash and I didn't have any more problems, the person that crashed on the new host could then play 6 games in a row without a crash. Strange bug but very rare. 1 crash in 50 h or multiplayer since release, where I just reconnected to the game through the friends interface.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 27, 2017 4:31:00 GMT
My feelings are pretty mixed on this. On one hand, Mass Effect is still one of my favorite franchises, so I don't want to see it go out with the whimper that is MEA instead of a bang; but on the other, I want this game to do poorly as now that they shut down the forums, it's the only real way to get the message across to Bioware that people are becoming more and more unhappy with what they're doing.
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Post by CursedPanther on Mar 27, 2017 4:31:55 GMT
Need a 6th option: Depends on the sales numbers
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Post by argentus on Mar 27, 2017 5:11:12 GMT
Hopefully this is the end for Mass Effect. Then they can get back to working on a much needed sequel to Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. ah yes. the game that singlehandedly destroyed a comic book running 20 years strong because Bioware couldn't be bothered to get the rights to the characters they instead blatantly plagiarized.
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Post by commandercole5 on Mar 27, 2017 6:26:59 GMT
I hope not, though I am waiting for a patch or 2 to hope back in (I figured a playthrough of the trilogy will help) And I want to see what Montreal will do once they actually know what they are doing for a full game (And go back to a corridor shooter with some open world goodies)
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Post by leafspring on Mar 27, 2017 6:33:50 GMT
I don't think it'll be the end of the franchise. Sales will be good enough to justify a sequel and there's still a lot of stories to tell. I do think there'll be significant changes behind the scenes, though.
My guess would be production lead (cause they fucked up in too many ways), writing lead (cause it's uninspired), tech lead (cause ME was stomped into the ground by Witcher 3 and, in some aspects, it's own predecessor) and possibly a significant chunk of the talent cause they clearly weren't up to the task. Too many rookie mistakes, an overall lack of quality and sloppy execution.
(and whoever decided to give Andromeda to Montreal isn't going to get a pay raise either...)
The team was way out of their depth and I can't see EA running the risk of allowing them another chance to fuck up one of their most significant franchises even more. Might even send it into a bit of a hiatus and then give production back to Edmonton.
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Post by yakabucci on Mar 27, 2017 6:37:23 GMT
Um. I love Mass Effect but it should probably end here. Andromeda is fun, but it was obviously half-assed. If they don't care enough to make a proper release then they should throw in the towel.
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Post by triggerlips on Mar 27, 2017 7:54:56 GMT
Movie might be next step. The Mass Effect world is a good story
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Post by xaijin on Mar 27, 2017 7:58:44 GMT
... The other tangent to that is how to approach making that game about politics, and talking down to your customers and fans like they're unaware braindead idiots, whom haven't ever seen or BEEN or experienced those things you're so eagerly hamfisting into your Joss Whedon reject bin plots to show how clever and political savvy you are isn't particularly bright and certainly isn't good writing of any kind. ... It might not necessarily be a bad thing by itself. Depends on how it is approached and how good the story is. Bad writer is going to be bad regardless of the subject and good writer can turn even an ugly subject into a masterpiece. You've got to have some gift, it is not just a matter or persistence and hard work. The company can pay 40 million to a bad writer but it is not going to help. And that gift is not present here.
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Post by off3nc3 on Mar 27, 2017 8:06:41 GMT
I don't share any of the sentiments , the only thing im dissapointed in is the LAG/rubberbanding on the MultiPlayer maps and the CTD's other then that I can honestly say it's my favourite of the SERIES talking campaign only. Everything from the quirky dialogue , planets , armor designs and SQUAD members personalities it's truly a great game.
This game suffers from poor kid's bashing it started pre-release as it had with For Honor , Destiny and many more big titles , the downie tween generation is set to bash this game and I can't blame them that's what happens when you don't raise/educate your children and hand them an iPad when they turn 4.
Back in my day I wouldn't sleep the night knowing I would wake up and play Prince of Persia on MS-DOS or Double Dragon on SEGA , nowdays these entitled mofos nitpick at the smallest details like some "facial animations" not being rendered perfectly. It's a sad AGE for gaming anyone above 25 should knows this.
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Post by xaijin on Mar 27, 2017 8:28:59 GMT
riiight. I'm a grown ass man which is exactly why I find MEA's joss whedon quirky teen played by mid 25 year old actor plot pants on face bad and cliche as fuck.
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Post by off3nc3 on Mar 27, 2017 8:35:47 GMT
If you are looking for mature/dramatic storyline content and feel too old for the "semi-young" adventurous dialogue you should start reading Henry VI, you won't find that in videogames.
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Post by xaijin on Mar 27, 2017 8:40:53 GMT
Yes, I'm sure that'll be an actual thing when you're elected King of Contextual Content, but until such time as your glorious ascension I'll keep my own opinion, thanks.
The age of the protagonists has nothing to do with the story, plot, and narrative being a 10 out of 10 jank fest of extremely dubious quality, especially when placed alongside other BW products.
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Post by akots on Mar 27, 2017 9:28:26 GMT
If you are looking for mature/dramatic storyline content and feel too old for the "semi-young" adventurous dialogue you should start reading Henry VI, you won't find that in videogames. First, MEA is rated M or 17+. Second, semi-young dialogue can be tasteless or good. Third, if you put some effort into it, you actually can find some surprising things in videogames, even in some selected Bioware prodcuts. Henry VI is not the most robust form of wisdom out there. Myself, I am not a grandfather just yet, so I won't elaborate on the issue but I've recently read Hunger games and Harry Potter some time ago and find they are both generally OK, nothing cringe-worthy, so IMHO the argument is absolutely mute here. Yes, people happily watch bad movies and play bad games regardless of age, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as they have a good time and happily pay for their entertainment. I even occasionally find Big Bang Theory quite sharp and by no means prefer Last of the Summer Wine over it automatically, either one has good and bad episodes. It's just that Requiem recently composed by Bioware has too many false notes compared to ... Mozart, for example. It hurts the ears, sorry, pure physiology, my fault 100%. But whatever rocks your boat, not going to argue here.
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Post by kotli on Mar 27, 2017 9:46:02 GMT
I refuse to vote as all options are the same apart from the fan boy option. That is the poll is what know as a push poll the only choices are game is bad or rabid fan who buy anything.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Mar 27, 2017 12:49:29 GMT
Not when there's money to be made.
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 27, 2017 13:44:14 GMT
What a shit poll. Good job at disguising your agenda by the way.
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Post by off3nc3 on Mar 27, 2017 17:05:12 GMT
Yes, I'm sure that'll be an actual thing when you're elected King of Contextual Content, but until such time as your glorious ascension I'll keep my own opinion, thanks. The age of the protagonists has nothing to do with the story, plot, and narrative being a 10 out of 10 jank fest of extremely dubious quality, especially when placed alongside other BW products. It's not my fault you refer to yourself as a "grown ass man" who can't enjoy a funny dialogue to unwind , videogames are make belief after all it's fiction , movies fall into the same category when you put it up like that where can I direct you ? You can keep your own opinions, it's just not fitting for a videogame forum to complain about such a narrative or wanting something more dramatic, more mature? lol entitled much ? Based on what you wrote im pretty sure you didn't even hit level 20 in the single player campaign as the dialogue and the narrative are top notch and better then ever before especially in terms of squad members evolvement and last but not least the narrative is aimed for a younger generation. So sorry but I can't take you seriously on this topic. Like I said before pick up Henry the VI - th , that's an actual history lesson and case study that happened in real life , if you need a " real , dramatic , story" as opposed to nitpicking at the ME:A storyline maybe in the end you will actually learn something about life . Cheerio
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Post by xaijin on Mar 27, 2017 18:26:51 GMT
Wow, you are incredibly bad at this.
I've performed Henry VI.
But is entirely your fault you started this in first place by characterizing any detraction as a rote type that you totally know about and implicitly understand based on your childish bias, when it is now patently obvious you haven't the faintest, on either why someone would dislike it, or why it's getting manhandled in many critical venues.
But I do thank you for rendering most of your reasoning objectively inert, good show; luckily for you an opinion doesn't require context or facts to exist.
"Anyone who dislikes what I like can't be right"
I think the fact sales don't even meet ME3, much less ME2 says more than either opinion.
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