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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 27, 2017 12:05:59 GMT
So, I just want a bit of clarification/theorising on Angara family structures.
A lot of angry people are claiming it seems to be a harem sort of thing, where one male has many wives and thus, many children with them, like a lion. This seems to be encouraged by the story Jaal tells you in the email, where the child did not heed the warnings of their father or mothers.
But tbh, I think it's more like a clan sort of thing, with a patriarch, one male, as the 'head' or 'father' of the family. When Jaal talks about his first love, he later goes on to say she became one of the mothers [of his family]. To me, this seems to suggest that Angaran 'share' mothers but not fathers. So when a female Angara has children, she becomes a 'mother' to her family, and she will help care for and raise the others children.
So what about brothers, sisters and cousins then? How do we differentiate with that?
There could also be aspects of poly relationships within Angaran culture. Where a female or male Angaran may have more then one mate or partner at any given time, but this is more just theorising why Jaal may have many brothers or sisters (half siblings). Unless Angara have... litters or something.
Just my thoughts.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 27, 2017 13:12:00 GMT
It just dawned on me that the angara are space lions. The family system sounds like a pride and male angara look like they have a mane.
The family system just sounds weird and convoluted to me, and I do not understand why they went the '' many mothers, one father '' route either. I guess there's biological mothers and emotional mothers, biological siblings and emotional siblings. That's the whole thing about the angara right, EMOTIONS.
I'm curious if they have things like weddings, though. I recall there being a codex, datapad or something similar about two angara men getting married or something, would be great if someone found it!
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 27, 2017 14:00:44 GMT
Too me actually sounds like more of a family commune... that concept has been around since, well, forever. Even today there are certain people - largely motivated by very left leaning politics - that would prefer for children to grow up within a group of parents, rather then in classical, two parent households.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:20:15 GMT
Harems? Haha people need to get a life and get their thoughts out of the gutter.
Personally it sounds to me like when one takes a wife, her duties are for her to become mother to the other children in that family, so each wife is a mother to the whole family even if they kids aren't theirs. And if she has kids, then the previous mothers are all mothers to that child too.
As for Jaal, he's been single forever, and his mother wants Sara and him to have children, so none of the Angara in his family are his own from a previous relationship, but if Sara wanted to follow the culture, she too would end up looking after the young ones in his family.
It can get complicated, but poly is highly doubtful. Relationships come and go, but they seem devoted to their partner of choice.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 27, 2017 14:40:48 GMT
Harems? Haha people need to get a life and get their thoughts out of the gutter. Personally it sounds to me like when one takes a wife, her duties are for her to become mother to the other children in that family, so each wife is a mother to the whole family even if they kids aren't theirs. And if she has kids, then the previous mothers are all mothers to that child too. As for Jaal, he's been single forever, and his mother wants Sara and him to have children, so none of the Angara in his family are his own from a previous relationship, but if Sara wanted to follow the culture, she too would end up looking after the young ones in his family. It can get complicated, but poly is highly doubtful. Relationships come and go, but they seem devoted to their partner of choice. True - I thinks it's all about "poly-parenting" in this arrangement, not polyamourie. The kids even refer to their actual mother as their "birth mother".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:42:10 GMT
Harems? Haha people need to get a life and get their thoughts out of the gutter. Personally it sounds to me like when one takes a wife, her duties are for her to become mother to the other children in that family, so each wife is a mother to the whole family even if they kids aren't theirs. And if she has kids, then the previous mothers are all mothers to that child too. As for Jaal, he's been single forever, and his mother wants Sara and him to have children, so none of the Angara in his family are his own from a previous relationship, but if Sara wanted to follow the culture, she too would end up looking after the young ones in his family. It can get complicated, but poly is highly doubtful. Relationships come and go, but they seem devoted to their partner of choice. True - I thinks it's all about "poly-parenting" in this arrangement, not polyamourie. The kids even refer to her actual mother as their "birth mother". Yeah it's not a relationship thing, and Jaal calls his real mother his true mother, and I think she refers to herself as that too in emails.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 27, 2017 14:43:29 GMT
True - I thinks it's all about "poly-parenting" in this arrangement, not polyamourie. The kids even refer to her actual mother as their "birth mother". Yeah it's not a relationship thing, and Jaal calls his real mother his true mother, and I think she refers to herself as that too in emails. Right, "true mother", that was the therm...
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Post by tenny on Mar 27, 2017 18:53:44 GMT
I honestly got the feeling that it works like... angara female gets pregnant, she joins her mother-in-law and sister-in-law and together they form a big family unit, which take cares of all their children. While fathers do visit, they don't actually raise their children, therefore each kid only has one father. Have we met some mother angara in field yet? Cause I think that most of angara Resistance forces are formed by men and single women who didn't have kids yet. Women who do have kids are expected to go home and become caretakers - although I guess some of them can leave and leave the raising of the kids to the other mothers in the family, though that would probably be frowned upon. Just my take on this, though. I haven't finished the game yet, so my image may not be full one.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 27, 2017 21:04:04 GMT
Eh, it's also possible they just have polygamy in the future. Which is a choice men and women can make for themselves.
Women in their society certainly seem to be able to hold high positions whenever they want.
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