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Post by Sondergaard on Mar 28, 2017 6:18:42 GMT
Who was the gay male squad mate in ME3? Kaiden was bi and Cortez wasn't on the squad. If you're going to complain, however justifiably, you need to get your facts straight (pun intended).
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Post by cybercache188 on Mar 28, 2017 6:24:39 GMT
ok OP Im not trying to be mean ok. but you realize these characters and there "romance's" are not real right IT'S A GAME. Im pretty sure there are better things to worry about. Im a straight male LGB rights supporter btw so im not anti gay.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 28, 2017 6:44:28 GMT
Should have made Aria a proper femshep LI, rather than just hinting at it.
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Post by lamoi on Mar 28, 2017 7:15:05 GMT
Really...? This is even a genuine complaint?
I find it rediculous the way even games now try and shoe horn in modern agendas on sexuality in the name of equality...
Considering, if you regard the actual statistics, that homosexuality and bisexuality affect like 0.01% of the population, I'm constantly amazed why this is presented and pushed as such a 'big deal' ? Frankly I think this world faces more important issues.
I'd say racial inequality and lack of meaningful representation in popular media is a far more jarring and indeed a more valid concern to be addressed as it affects a great many people.
I also think sex/romance in a video game homosexual or otherwise, where you spend half the time shooting things (or rather scanning things!) is such a non issue...
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 28, 2017 7:42:10 GMT
ok OP Im not trying to be mean ok. but you realize these characters and there "romance's" are not real right IT'S A GAME. You're nude here aren't you?
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Post by cybercache188 on Mar 28, 2017 8:00:06 GMT
You're nude here aren't you? Wtf how did you know are you watching me? Im checking for cameras now you krogan perv.
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Post by wangxiuming on Mar 28, 2017 8:03:25 GMT
I also think sex/romance in a video game homosexual or otherwise, where you spend half the time shooting things (or rather scanning things!) is such a non issue... This is very easy to say when one is not part of the minority population, and regularly has the requested content available to them. It's much harder to accept when one is part of the group that is routinely on the short end of the stick. And while I agree with the point about meaningful representation of all races being a valid concern, that does not invalidate the concerns of other minorities. We do not live in a galaxy where only one problem can be tackled at one time.
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Post by MattMan031 on Mar 28, 2017 8:05:55 GMT
Not just that but apparently there was again more hate for Cora. For what this time? Because apparently some people are upset that she isn't a gay/bisexual romance option. This same thing kinda happened with Cassandra how some fans were disappointed that she wasn't a gay romance option. (Though it seems she was originally going to be at one point but oh well) It's funny how Cora just can't ever catch a break.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 28, 2017 8:06:20 GMT
You're nude here aren't you? Wtf how did you know you watching me? Im checking for cameras now you krogan perv *makes copies* *closes the door*
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 28, 2017 8:07:56 GMT
ok OP Im not trying to be mean ok. but you realize these characters and there "romance's" are not real right IT'S A GAME. You're nude here aren't you? Wait…you aren't?
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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 28, 2017 8:08:29 GMT
seriously this is ridiculous. I could care way less than the romance in a any bioware game. This should not be a selling point, i remember it being the icing to the cake during the development with the characters in past games but now it's too serious. I hope this complaint comes only from a minority.
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 28, 2017 8:11:31 GMT
Well, that's a real shame. But these people are free to find more LGBTQ friendly company and stop funding Bioware's homophobia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 8:26:47 GMT
The line that gets me is "All these queer coded women are straight" What the hell does that even mean?
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Post by lamoi on Mar 28, 2017 8:27:27 GMT
I also think sex/romance in a video game homosexual or otherwise, where you spend half the time shooting things (or rather scanning things!) is such a non issue... This is very easy to say when one is not part of the minority population, and regularly has the requested content available to them. It's much harder to accept when one is part of the group that is routinely on the short end of the stick. And while I agree with the point about meaningful representation of all races being a valid concern, that does not invalidate the concerns of other minorities. We do not live in a galaxy where only one problem can be tackled at one time. My point was that the Issue of sexuality, specifically LGBT, are prioritised in popular media over other minorities, and in fact larger minorities with issues affecting more people's lives... For example, being black in America - this population is far larger than the LGBT population put together - and yet racial inequality is not championed or highlighted in pop media in the same way the Gay agenda is, even though it affects far less people. I'd call that an inequality!
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Post by lamoi on Mar 28, 2017 8:37:53 GMT
I guarantee that if you are a white Gay man, far more doors will open for you in America today, than if you are black. Period.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 28, 2017 8:41:52 GMT
The mass effect universe is filled with Bisexual women but having more than a couple of gay/bi men or lesbians in the entire series is unrealistic I guess.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 28, 2017 8:48:16 GMT
You're nude here aren't you? Wait…you aren't? When I take my pants off, I mean business.
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Post by cotheer on Mar 28, 2017 8:55:14 GMT
Priorities are all messed up. Everyone's easily insulted, everyone's that one special snowflake, everyone must be represented....all while games are becoming more and more generic and uninspired due to "my character's not a vegan, i must protest" attitude. Ugh....
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 28, 2017 8:57:54 GMT
Who was the gay male squad mate in ME3? Kaiden was bi and Cortez wasn't on the squad. If you're going to complain, however justifiably, you need to get your facts straight (pun intended). He was non-straight and available for a gay male romance, that's what counts. Priorities are all messed up. Everyone's easily insulted, everyone's that one special snowflake, everyone must be represented....all while games are becoming more and more generic and uninspired due to "my character's not a vegan, i must protest" attitude. Ugh.... Nah, I've never complained about Geralt or Nathan Drake not being gay because those are characters with a fixed background, personality, etc. but part of the appeal of BioWare games is that you can sort of play them as "yourself" and shape the protagonists whichever way you like so BioWare games, in this case, need to be held to a higher standard. (Just like they shouldn't be held to as high a standard in the animation department as, say Uncharted.) Different companies and franchises come with different reputations and expectations. Sure are a lot of these threads... I agree, this one was a bit unnecessary but I guess it's a good way to introduce some people who don't visit the other places to the problem. (And it's certainly "interesting" to see how different the response to it is in this part of the forum.)
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Post by smellycatbutts on Mar 28, 2017 9:01:11 GMT
Sure are a lot of these threads...
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Post by warrior116 on Mar 28, 2017 9:08:59 GMT
This kind od people just fap to the monitor becouse they sit on chair in house.
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Post by mrjack on Mar 28, 2017 9:10:56 GMT
I guarantee that if you are a white Gay man, far more doors will open for you in America today, than if you are black. Period. Oh that's right I totally forgot about that gay president you guys had... what's his name again? It's on the tip of my tongue. Jokes aside, it isn't a competition and anyone from either minority that tries to throw the other under the bus is doing both a disservice. As for Bioware, they can make the game they want and if that means not creating substantial content for their gay male audience, then so be it. What they don't get to do is hold themselves up as the standard-bearer for inclusive and progressive gaming. They can't have their cake and eat it too. All politics aside, after playing this game in its entirety, I'm just left feeling sad, ignored and empty. Like everyone else was invited to the party and while they're busy sipping champagne, I'm on the porch drinking dishwater from a plastic cup. I'm not paying to feel that way again. I'm not even sure what Bioware can do about it. I'm not sure they even care but are rather just waiting for us to shut up. I'll make them a deal: They stop bleating on about how important we are as customers and how diversity in gaming is one of the core principles of their company and I'll take my dishwater in a plastic cup and go home.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 28, 2017 9:11:30 GMT
It's not the biggest issue in the world of course but they spend all this time teasing romances, put so much effort into the romance with Cora for example have several options for everyone except gay male characters. They made one gay romance that has less content than most of the others and then they obviously made a romance meant for Sara bi at the last minute. Why do you think they are so much more comfortable making lgbt content that involves two women.
Oh and of course the gay characters are both crew mates, with cc faces who probably won't be remembered for anything much other than being gay characters.
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Post by zaeedisking on Mar 28, 2017 9:17:11 GMT
It's not the biggest issue in the world of course but they spend all this time teasing romances, put so much effort into the romance with Cora for example have several options for everyone except gay male characters. Listen... I could care less who romances who... but the Cora romance was nothing special. It literally amounted to a hot little number and that was it. No buildup. Just we're two good looking people who are trying to make it in a new galaxy.. lot of depth there!
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