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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 14:49:11 GMT
Is he really? What if Ryder does something SAM really hates? What if Ryder is just thinking certain things because SAM is putting those thoughts into his head? I don't care how helpful it would be, having a handy I/F would be fine but having direct control over all my brain functions is something entirely different. I am not so sure how anyone in the ME world, could look at AI's, Geth, Sovereign, the Reapers, desire to off ALL biological life forms, and not be very concerned about having one IN my brain. As far as I am concerned Alec was dead wrong and is no better than the Illusive Man who considered the ends justifying the means. the way I understood it is that SAM is so completely merged with Ryder that it is permenant and that if you were to try to remove SAM from ryder it would kill Ryder because SAM and Ryder are one being now a new being - a Synthesis is how I see Ryder now, which would make the Synthesis ending in ME3 canon now - well in my opinion of course That is spot on as far as I am concerned. I think it is hard to argue against it being anything but Synthesis.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 15:02:00 GMT
Thats the whole point of sci-fi though right? And besides, it will happen - the question is not if, but when - and what we will do about it regulation wise. Just like self-driving cars to take a modern day example. The tech is about ready to go large scale, but our leaders are not doing the changes needed to accommodate what will be a revolution in the transportation industry in the coming years. "It will happen" - based on what? Siri? Self driving cars is a whole other thing because we already have actual self-driving cars. Science-fiction is for speculation. I have no issue with speculation and thought experiments. They are fun, which is why I read sci-fi books and play sci-fi games. It's the treating thought experiments as given because it sounds cool that I roll my eyes at. Anyway, don't really want to go in circles on this particular line. More just interested in seeing if I was the only one this irritated. Besides having it in a game is fine but making you accept it in a series that was famous for allowing the player to make the choices is another thing altogether.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 29, 2017 16:16:03 GMT
the way I understood it is that SAM is so completely merged with Ryder that it is permenant and that if you were to try to remove SAM from ryder it would kill Ryder because SAM and Ryder are one being now a new being - a Synthesis is how I see Ryder now, which would make the Synthesis ending in ME3 canon now - well in my opinion of course That is spot on as far as I am concerned. I think it is hard to argue against it being anything but Synthesis. “The relationship is symbiotic. Organic and machine intertwined, a union of flesh and steel. The strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither!"
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Post by ralph2449 on Mar 29, 2017 17:24:26 GMT
Well SAM is a great addition to the iniative, AIs are very powerful, combined with a human they really do enhance that person a lot which is what makes the pathfinders also so special and why it gives such an advantage to the initiative. But i doubt what Elon is doing is anywhere near close a real AI, they are just starting to test implants interfacing with computers, it ll take a lot of time before AIs become really smart and useful to start being combined with us.
The whole AI will murder you think is kinda dumb, outside from it being a literal fiction, it is mostly because of the "OMG ROBOTS WILL KILL US" culture which mostly exists based on fear and ignorance and those things have never brought anything positive to humanity. And that desperate
In game the geth werent bad at all, they were evolving and the quarians became scared they would lose their precious control, a very human concept and responded based on fear which lead to years of war and suffering. That desperate need to feel in control is a really negative primal behavior that shouldnt be listened to.
The reapers, which even after millennia were still bound to their prime directive which was to protect organic life which, which was a directive given by organics, there wasnt any evil intention, they were doing what their programmers asked them to, so lesson, be careful what you ask xD
And SAM is nowhere near synthesis, synthesis is supposed to be the pinnacle where synthetics and organics are combined in the most fundemental of forms, they arent separate and working together like SAM. Honestly, i doubt synthesis will become canon simply because a creature like that would simply be too overpowered, being able to process data and events at a computer speed and communicate with others just as fast? With such capabilities you could solve most problems in the milky way and technology progress would skyrocket leading to them getting to Andromeda before us lol.
Plus imo whole point of AI imo is to make something that is better and smarter than humans and remove the negative parts of humanity, such as that pesky fear of anything different/losing control/being wrong etc
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