Sargon
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 18 Likes: 2
inherit
4212
0
May 12, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
2
Sargon
18
March 2017
aelther
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sargon on Mar 28, 2017 20:16:41 GMT
I've been playing a bit of MP and so far it seems pretty simple no matter what I'm doing on Bronze. Then as soon as I go to Silver I find myself shooting a single mob for ages, while everyone else is using a sniper rifle (Vanquisher I seems quite popular) and 1-2 shotting everything, except for bosses.
This is starting to look very similar to ME3. Admittedly I haven't played much of MP in ME3, but from what I remember most people were either spamming charge & nova as vanguards or wielding sniper rifles.
Doesn't look like much has changed so far. Are there any viable build besides heavy-biotics or sniper rifles?
Personally I'd prefer something rifle-based with weapon-buffing skills... Pretty much a boring soldier, but rifles / smgs seem to be doing no damage in silver, which is probably why everyone picks a sniper rifle.
|
|
inherit
1987
0
Mar 14, 2017 16:11:12 GMT
2,750
Cirvante
803
November 2016
cirvante
|
Post by Cirvante on Mar 28, 2017 20:26:51 GMT
The Thokin is supposedly really good on the TSol, at least that's what TormDK keeps telling me. Other good weapons for him are the Hurricane, the Piranha, the Raptor and the Vanquisher.
|
|
twangled
N1
Origin: twangled
Posts: 16 Likes: 43
inherit
2426
0
Jan 17, 2017 20:33:07 GMT
43
twangled
16
Dec 18, 2016 18:51:18 GMT
December 2016
purplelandian
twangled
|
Post by twangled on Mar 28, 2017 20:46:19 GMT
Try Charger (which you can level to X easily) pistol with either: - Infiltrator. Make sure you have Tactical Cloak > Combat Cloak. - Any kit with Turbocharge.
Passives that add stability/accuracy can help, but not really needed. For bronze and silver you can pretty much run around and spray everything dead pretty quickly. Try to hit weak spots (cursor turns into red reticle) for noticeably faster melting. IMO this is fun, dynamic and helps you discover weak points. Not quite good enough for Gold, but by then you'd have better weapons available. I think a mid-level Revenant will give you similar play style for Gold.
|
|
SpaghettiViking
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: SpaghettiViking1
PSN: SpaghettiViking
Posts: 16 Likes: 23
inherit
5153
0
Apr 18, 2017 20:13:27 GMT
23
SpaghettiViking
16
March 2017
spaghettiviking1
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
SpaghettiViking1
SpaghettiViking
|
Post by SpaghettiViking on Mar 28, 2017 20:53:23 GMT
Here's a quick-and-dirty list of the top guns I'd look for on Turbocharge/weapons-oriented kit on Silver/Gold, sorted by rarity. Pick the guns you own and build from there.Guns marked with an asterisk are particularly good as they work on basically any kit/map/difficulty/faction.
Ultra-Rare: N7 Hurricane (Bullet hose, tons of damage, Turbocharge makes it shoot for ages) N7 Valiant (Good damage, Turbocharge lets you kick out 11+ rounds without reloading, most satisfying sounding SR)
Rare: Thokin (Requires some special mods to be effective on higher difficulties. I recommend having ammo capacity and clip size mods/equipment/consumables/kit perks wherever possible. Shoot for the highest total ammo and clip size possible.) Talon (Solid close range gun. Deals tremendous damage if you can consistently hit weak points.) Vanquisher ** (Basically the best gun. You can't go wrong with this.) Equalizer (Never runs out of ammo. Deals a lot of damage if you pop Turbocharge just before overheat) M-37 Falcon (Turbocharge lets you spam aoe like crazy. Very good for holding doorways and tight chokes.)
Uncommon: Cyclone (Bullet hose, works great with Turbocharge. I'd highly recommend having the AR Stock to increase stability)
Common: Charger X (Poor man's Hurricane, solid pick if you need a lightweight secondary)
As for kit selection, you've got a lot of options. The Turian Soldier is a personal favorite when it comes to a weapon-focused build. The Krogan Mercenary is also good if you're looking to carry two heavy weapons. The Angara Insurgent is good if you're playing with a cooperative squad with mics. You can camp chokes with this guy really well. The Turian Havoc Trooper is arguably the best kit for a bullet-hose type kit, but suffers from poor recovery options if you hover for too long and lose shields.
|
|
Sargon
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 18 Likes: 2
inherit
4212
0
May 12, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
2
Sargon
18
March 2017
aelther
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sargon on Mar 28, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
Try Charger (which you can level to X easily) pistol with either: - Infiltrator. Make sure you have Tactical Cloak > Combat Cloak. - Any kit with Turbocharge. Passives that add stability/accuracy can help, but not really needed. For bronze and silver you can pretty much run around and spray everything dead pretty quickly. Try to hit weak spots (cursor turns into red reticle) for noticeably faster melting. IMO this is fun, dynamic and helps you discover weak points. Not quite good enough for Gold, but by then you'd have better weapons available. I think a mid-level Revenant will give you similar play style for Gold. I do have charger X and an Equalizer I, they seem to have similar stats... Though Equaliser especially seems to drop in value in Silver, maybe it's the lack of accuracy. If I were to go for Tactical Cloak, what should I pick for 4? Recharge or damage? For 5 I assume speed, as duration seems pointless if you're going to be breaking it constantly and 6 is obviously combat cloak. Same for Turbochage. Not really sure what to pick, expet maybe for 5 for damage, as accuracy would be kinda pointless I think.
|
|
Sargon
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 18 Likes: 2
inherit
4212
0
May 12, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
2
Sargon
18
March 2017
aelther
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sargon on Mar 28, 2017 21:10:59 GMT
Equalizer (Never runs out of ammo. Deals a lot of damage if you pop Turbocharge just before overheat). I do have Equalizer 1 and have been using just that ever since I got it in bronze. Melts everything. Though seems to be very weak in Silver... Then again I was mostly running around as Krogan Gladiator for shield recharge, so haven't really tried turbo. How would you spec Turbochage for spray&pray builds? Mod tips would be useful too. For now I'm using Damage I and Clip I. (I'm never getting any mods from these basic boxes, seriously).
|
|
SpaghettiViking
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: SpaghettiViking1
PSN: SpaghettiViking
Posts: 16 Likes: 23
inherit
5153
0
Apr 18, 2017 20:13:27 GMT
23
SpaghettiViking
16
March 2017
spaghettiviking1
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
SpaghettiViking1
SpaghettiViking
|
Post by SpaghettiViking on Mar 28, 2017 21:23:28 GMT
Equalizer (Never runs out of ammo. Deals a lot of damage if you pop Turbocharge just before overheat). I do have Equalizer 1 and have been using just that ever since I got it in bronze. Melts everything. Though seems to be very weak in Silver... Then again I was mostly running around as Krogan Gladiator for shield recharge, so haven't really tried turbo. How would you spec Turbochage for spray&pray builds? Mod tips would be useful too. For now I'm using Damage I and Clip I. (I'm never getting any mods from these basic boxes, seriously). I have the Equalizer I as well and it works quite well in Silver, and it is adequate (good enough to extract, but not ideal) for Golds. The trick is to use cover and only fire when enemies are CLOSE. The damage scales off very quickly with range, so using it from mid distances will make it feel like a peashooter. You'll want to spray until near overheat, then use powers/melee/dash/etc for a second or two until the gun is cooled off. Be careful not to fire again too early or you'll waste a lot of your potential DPS. The delay before recharge is longer than the actual recharge time, so interrupting the recharge will cost you a lot of time. For turbocharge bullet-hose builds, I'd make the following suggestions: For super high-volume weapons like Hurricane, Cyclone, Revenant, etc: 4 Duration, 5 Accuracy & Stability, 6 Dump Heat For everything else: 4 Recharge Speed, 5 Damage and Force, 6 Supercharge* (Dump heat is also fine if the weapon has a high rate of fire) As for the mods, keep buying those basic packs! If you move up to Silver missions, you're getting like 4-5 boxes every mission and you'll have 100% of the commons maxed out at rank X within 2-3 weeks. It's well worth it.
|
|
Mobius Y
N3
The Legend Continues
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
XBL Gamertag: Mobius Y
PSN: Mobius_Y
Posts: 878 Likes: 2,129
inherit
2936
0
Sept 7, 2022 15:58:11 GMT
2,129
Mobius Y
The Legend Continues
878
January 2017
mobiusy
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
Mobius Y
Mobius_Y
|
Post by Mobius Y on Mar 28, 2017 21:37:57 GMT
Try Charger (which you can level to X easily) pistol with either: - Infiltrator. Make sure you have Tactical Cloak > Combat Cloak. - Any kit with Turbocharge. Passives that add stability/accuracy can help, but not really needed. For bronze and silver you can pretty much run around and spray everything dead pretty quickly. Try to hit weak spots (cursor turns into red reticle) for noticeably faster melting. IMO this is fun, dynamic and helps you discover weak points. Not quite good enough for Gold, but by then you'd have better weapons available. I think a mid-level Revenant will give you similar play style for Gold. I do have charger X and an Equalizer I, they seem to have similar stats... Though Equaliser especially seems to drop in value in Silver, maybe it's the lack of accuracy. If I were to go for Tactical Cloak, what should I pick for 4? Recharge or damage? For 5 I assume speed, as duration seems pointless if you're going to be breaking it constantly and 6 is obviously combat cloak. Same for Turbochage. Not really sure what to pick, expet maybe for 5 for damage, as accuracy would be kinda pointless I think. Damage for Tac Cloak 4.
|
|
P51Mus7ang
N2
XBox P51MUS7ANG
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
XBL Gamertag: P51MUS7ANG
Posts: 243 Likes: 449
inherit
3955
0
Sept 12, 2017 9:55:53 GMT
449
P51Mus7ang
XBox P51MUS7ANG
243
Feb 27, 2017 10:51:17 GMT
February 2017
dewalt00
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
P51MUS7ANG
|
Post by P51Mus7ang on Mar 28, 2017 21:47:06 GMT
My observation after 1,500 hrs in ME3 and now MEA, the developers are kind of forcing us to explore powers vs relying on weapons only and if we sync those powers with others on the team, Silver and to some extent gold is not very difficult, if we rely on weapons at least what is released so far, it's a tough go. I run the Thonkin, Eagle, Talon and.....forget the name of th other pistol but it's very good.
Maybe consider posting and running with friends, it makes a very big difference and you can share info on builds, weapons etc. I think I have played adepts more in MEA than my time in ME3, they are a bast.
Edit...the pistol I currently enjoy the most is the Equalizer, when I get my Hurricne back it will be on most kits assuming they didn't destroy it
|
|
inherit
The Pathfinder
638
0
Sept 22, 2017 23:01:09 GMT
9,422
Serza
Rendering planets viable since 2017
6,301
August 2016
serza
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
13152
|
Post by Serza on Mar 28, 2017 22:01:42 GMT
...hooman femul inloltrator...?
|
|
Sargon
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 18 Likes: 2
inherit
4212
0
May 12, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
2
Sargon
18
March 2017
aelther
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sargon on Mar 28, 2017 22:23:55 GMT
I do have Equalizer 1 and have been using just that ever since I got it in bronze. Melts everything. Though seems to be very weak in Silver... Then again I was mostly running around as Krogan Gladiator for shield recharge, so haven't really tried turbo. How would you spec Turbochage for spray&pray builds? Mod tips would be useful too. For now I'm using Damage I and Clip I. (I'm never getting any mods from these basic boxes, seriously). I have the Equalizer I as well and it works quite well in Silver, and it is adequate (good enough to extract, but not ideal) for Golds. The trick is to use cover and only fire when enemies are CLOSE. The damage scales off very quickly with range, so using it from mid distances will make it feel like a peashooter. You'll want to spray until near overheat, then use powers/melee/dash/etc for a second or two until the gun is cooled off. Be careful not to fire again too early or you'll waste a lot of your potential DPS. The delay before recharge is longer than the actual recharge time, so interrupting the recharge will cost you a lot of time. For turbocharge bullet-hose builds, I'd make the following suggestions: For super high-volume weapons like Hurricane, Cyclone, Revenant, etc: 4 Duration, 5 Accuracy & Stability, 6 Dump Heat For everything else: 4 Recharge Speed, 5 Damage and Force, 6 Supercharge* (Dump heat is also fine if the weapon has a high rate of fire) As for the mods, keep buying those basic packs! If you move up to Silver missions, you're getting like 4-5 boxes every mission and you'll have 100% of the commons maxed out at rank X within 2-3 weeks. It's well worth it. Great, thanks. For Human / Turian Soldiers with Munitions Training 6, I assume Sustained Fire Debuff is better than Precision? In case of Turian Soldier more specifically, should I spec Fortify for stationary cover tank, or for moving around a bit with explosive purge? I saw another thread for Turian Soldier Sniper, who specced for stationary cover tank, but I'm not sure how stationary a bullet hose TS can afford to be with his limited gun range. Heh I wish there was a male and female TS, like with humans, then I'd just have 1 of each.
|
|
TormDK
N3
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: TormDK
Posts: 880 Likes: 1,378
inherit
4219
0
Jun 13, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
1,378
TormDK
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
880
March 2017
tormdk
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
TormDK
|
Post by TormDK on Mar 28, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
My observation after 1,500 hrs in ME3 and now MEA, the developers are kind of forcing us to explore powers vs relying on weapons only and if we sync those powers with others on the team, Silver and to some extent gold is not very difficult, if we rely on weapons at least what is released so far, it's a tough go. I run the Thonkin, Eagle, Talon and.....forget the name of th other pistol but it's very good. Maybe consider posting and running with friends, it makes a very big difference and you can share info on builds, weapons etc. I think I have played adepts more in MEA than my time in ME3, they are a bast. Edit...the pistol I currently enjoy the most is the Equalizer, when I get my Hurricne back it will be on most kits assuming they didn't destroy it The hurricane is quite nice still. As Cervantes notes, Thokin and Turian Soldier, speced for Turbo Charge Duration and big size mag will do alot of damage very quickly. Perfect when you need to burn down anything that moves in your personal Space. Plus, the Turian soldier with Fortify is rock hard.
|
|
twangled
N1
Origin: twangled
Posts: 16 Likes: 43
inherit
2426
0
Jan 17, 2017 20:33:07 GMT
43
twangled
16
Dec 18, 2016 18:51:18 GMT
December 2016
purplelandian
twangled
|
Post by twangled on Mar 28, 2017 23:23:44 GMT
Try Charger (which you can level to X easily) pistol with either: - Infiltrator. Make sure you have Tactical Cloak > Combat Cloak. - Any kit with Turbocharge. Passives that add stability/accuracy can help, but not really needed. For bronze and silver you can pretty much run around and spray everything dead pretty quickly. Try to hit weak spots (cursor turns into red reticle) for noticeably faster melting. IMO this is fun, dynamic and helps you discover weak points. Not quite good enough for Gold, but by then you'd have better weapons available. I think a mid-level Revenant will give you similar play style for Gold. I do have charger X and an Equalizer I, they seem to have similar stats... Though Equaliser especially seems to drop in value in Silver, maybe it's the lack of accuracy. If I were to go for Tactical Cloak, what should I pick for 4? Recharge or damage? For 5 I assume speed, as duration seems pointless if you're going to be breaking it constantly and 6 is obviously combat cloak. Same for Turbochage. Not really sure what to pick, expet maybe for 5 for damage, as accuracy would be kinda pointless I think. Recommendations are for automatics like the Charger: Tactical Cloak: AAB (recharge, duration, combat) Turbocharge: ABA (recharge, accuracy, supercharge) I like Cloak duration for devices, reviving deadies, and having time to run and reposition, but speed has advantageous too. With accuracy picks it was easy to hit weak spots with Charger - I'm not sure how much bullet spread or kickback there would be w/o accuracy/stability bonuses. If you do experiment, do also compare Charger and Equalizer, and let us know your findings. For single shot/non-burst weapons I prefer the following: Tactical Cloak: AAA (recharge, duration, escape artist) Turbocharge: AAB (recharge, damage, dump heat)
|
|
P51Mus7ang
N2
XBox P51MUS7ANG
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
XBL Gamertag: P51MUS7ANG
Posts: 243 Likes: 449
inherit
3955
0
Sept 12, 2017 9:55:53 GMT
449
P51Mus7ang
XBox P51MUS7ANG
243
Feb 27, 2017 10:51:17 GMT
February 2017
dewalt00
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
P51MUS7ANG
|
Post by P51Mus7ang on Mar 29, 2017 0:49:34 GMT
Decided to try a Vanguard, as we know they did not work well off host in ME3, At level 3 I went through silver no problem using the Equalizer pistol, I put all my points into charge, went down twice...give this kit a try
|
|
Sargon
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 18 Likes: 2
inherit
4212
0
May 12, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
2
Sargon
18
March 2017
aelther
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sargon on Mar 29, 2017 18:18:42 GMT
Plus, the Turian soldier with Fortify is rock hard. One thing I can't make my mind up for yet is Rank 6 Fortify. Do I pick unmoving defence or Explosive Purge? I'm not sure if staying in 1 place constantly would help much... Then again unmoving defence would stack nicely with Defensive Positioning (5 from combat fitness). So I guess I'm really asking what would be better for Combat Fitness 5 and Fortify 6, as both of these seems to work together if you pick top-top, bottom-bottom.
|
|
TormDK
N3
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: TormDK
Posts: 880 Likes: 1,378
inherit
4219
0
Jun 13, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
1,378
TormDK
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
880
March 2017
tormdk
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
TormDK
|
Post by TormDK on Mar 29, 2017 19:29:20 GMT
Plus, the Turian soldier with Fortify is rock hard. One thing I can't make my mind up for yet is Rank 6 Fortify. Do I pick unmoving defence or Explosive Purge? I'm not sure if staying in 1 place constantly would help much... Then again unmoving defence would stack nicely with Defensive Positioning (5 from combat fitness). So I guess I'm really asking what would be better for Combat Fitness 5 and Fortify 6, as both of these seems to work together if you pick top-top, bottom-bottom. Hold...the...line... (Pick A)
|
|