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Post by derrame on Mar 28, 2017 23:20:56 GMT
hi there pathfinders
so, the Kett abducts specimens from other species and turn them into monsters, similar to the Reapers
we already know this story, they could have invented something new for a new game
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 1:05:58 GMT
Not even in the slightest.
The Kett are just another race in the galaxy who is a expansionist conqueror.
Not a bunch of Eldritch Abominations from the dawn of time.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 29, 2017 1:45:36 GMT
Reapers are selective. Kett just throws everyone into the pot and their agenda is very bare bones unlike the Reapers whose reasons / purpose could not be fathomed until much later. Too, Reapers are extremely hard / impossible to counteract.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 2:46:22 GMT
Hilariously, I see the Kett as the colonialists everyone thought Andromeda would be about.
The British Empire IN SPACEEE.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 2:50:32 GMT
Kett are the Borg in pretty much every detail.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 3:23:55 GMT
Kett are the Borg in pretty much every detail. Except for the whole thing about being a religious cult of bio-organics out to conquer the galaxy for wealth and power.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 3:37:49 GMT
Kett are the Borg in pretty much every detail. Except for the whole thing about being a religious cult of bio-organics out to conquer the galaxy for wealth and power. Or you know the part about they are a massive empire that adds to it's size by assimilating what they consider to be inferior races by literally turning them into Kett. Or the part where they Assimilate technology. Or the part where they are searching for the holy grail of technology (Kett Remnant tech, Borg Omega molecules). Conquering by definition is about power...pretty sure the Kett never once mentioned wealth in any form. So your snark attempt just failed pretty damned hard.
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Post by TheDoorfighter on Mar 29, 2017 3:39:26 GMT
Except for the whole thing about being a religious cult of bio-organics out to conquer the galaxy for wealth and power. Or the part where they are searching for the holy grail of technology (Kett Remnant tech, Borg Omega molecules). Miss right here. It's the Archon who went rogue, his orders are to mess up with organics, not look for some tech. And his superiors are not happy with that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 29, 2017 3:45:30 GMT
The Kett remind me of the Yuuzhan Vong from the Star Wars Legacy more than the Reapers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 4:13:31 GMT
The Kett remind me of the Yuuzhan Vong from the Star Wars Legacy more than the Reapers. Holy crap you are right. Also yea they are nothing like the Reapers. The Reapers are tying to prevent organics from being wiped out by synthetics. Kett are trying to turn everything in Andromeda into Kett.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 5:04:39 GMT
Or the part where they are searching for the holy grail of technology (Kett Remnant tech, Borg Omega molecules). Miss right here. It's the Archon who went rogue, his orders are to mess up with organics, not look for some tech. And his superiors are not happy with that. And the Archon was the villain in this game.
The rest of the Kett empire is a big nebulous concept we know virtually nothing about.
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Post by nickles on Mar 29, 2017 5:05:36 GMT
Kett believe in controlled reproduction where only the very best of a race is passed on through genes. They've been manufacturing their reproduction for so long that they don't even have the means of natural reproduction anymore. The Reapers were different. They assimilated everything, either to be used as a tool or to add to their mission. For the Kett, their mission is enlightenment -- they believe that they are doing you a favor. Those who become Kett are honored. To the Kett, they are not slaves -- after all, why would they just throw those deemed unfit into work camps?
They're different, and similar; but I think ultimately that the Kett are the more interesting application. Remember that the Archon is an outlier and that as a species, their goal is conquest and reproduction. His obsession with the Remnant was deemed problematic by many within his own ranks.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 6:14:45 GMT
Except for the whole thing about being a religious cult of bio-organics out to conquer the galaxy for wealth and power. Or you know the part about they are a massive empire that adds to it's size by assimilating what they consider to be inferior races by literally turning them into Kett. Or the part where they Assimilate technology. Or the part where they are searching for the holy grail of technology (Kett Remnant tech, Borg Omega molecules). Conquering by definition is about power...pretty sure the Kett never once mentioned wealth in any form. So your snark attempt just failed pretty damned hard. They'd be the Borg if they were a collective gestalt intelligence versus a brainwashed cult. Seriously, they have almost nothing in common with the Borg other than they bring other species into their Empire. The Protheans did that too.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 6:17:41 GMT
Or you know the part about they are a massive empire that adds to it's size by assimilating what they consider to be inferior races by literally turning them into Kett. Or the part where they Assimilate technology. Or the part where they are searching for the holy grail of technology (Kett Remnant tech, Borg Omega molecules). Conquering by definition is about power...pretty sure the Kett never once mentioned wealth in any form. So your snark attempt just failed pretty damned hard. They'd be the Borg if they were a collective gestalt intelligence versus a brainwashed cult. Seriously, they have almost nothing in common with the Borg other than they bring other species into their Empire. The Protheans did that too. Just stop.
Quit whining because no one is agreeing with your.
"WAAAAAHHHHH COLONIALISM" nonsense.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 6:20:55 GMT
They'd be the Borg if they were a collective gestalt intelligence versus a brainwashed cult. Seriously, they have almost nothing in common with the Borg other than they bring other species into their Empire. The Protheans did that too. Just stop.
Quit whining because no one is agreeing with your.
"WAAAAAHHHHH COLONIALISM" nonsense.
It's just a game dude. Lighten up if people disagree with you. Also, what's wrong with the idea the Kett are a bunch of resource hungry conquerors?
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 6:26:26 GMT
Just stop.
Quit whining because no one is agreeing with your.
"WAAAAAHHHHH COLONIALISM" nonsense.
It's just a game dude. Lighten up if people disagree with you. Also, what's wrong with the idea the Kett are a bunch of resource hungry conquerors? Because it's a bunch of leftwing SJW nonsense of seeing what you want to see and trying to push your dogma. Just like you in the other thread saying people should have all the babies they want and everyone else should be OK with paying for that kid and sacrificing for it.
Seriously, you just radiate SJW nonsense in your replies.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 29, 2017 6:33:01 GMT
It's just a game dude. Lighten up if people disagree with you. Also, what's wrong with the idea the Kett are a bunch of resource hungry conquerors? Because it's a bunch of leftwing SJW nonsense of seeing what you want to see and trying to push your dogma. Just like you in the other thread saying people should have all the babies they want and everyone else should be OK with paying for that kid and sacrificing for it.
Seriously, you just radiate SJW nonsense in your replies.
Interestingly, when I taught university, I knew people who taught actual Social Justice as a philosophy in Political Science and it aligns very strongly with my views. Social Justice Warrior is a nonsense word used by people to put down people who work for progressiveness but of the concept it actually derives from, yes, I strongly identify with. It's something I'm proud of and believe has helped make the world a better place. But seriously, why not have colonialist invaders? It's better than EVILLLL Empires just being EVIL or the Reapers. I like Mass Effect because of its complex cultures and politics, less so the main genocidal robot enemies.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 7:00:06 GMT
Because it's a bunch of leftwing SJW nonsense of seeing what you want to see and trying to push your dogma. Just like you in the other thread saying people should have all the babies they want and everyone else should be OK with paying for that kid and sacrificing for it.
Seriously, you just radiate SJW nonsense in your replies.
Interestingly, when I taught university, I knew people who taught actual Social Justice as a philosophy in Political Science and it aligns very strongly with my views. Social Justice Warrior is a nonsense word used by people to put down people who work for progressiveness but of the concept it actually derives from, yes, I strongly identify with. It's something I'm proud of and believe has helped make the world a better place. But seriously, why not have colonialist invaders? It's better than EVILLLL Empires just being EVIL or the Reapers. I like Mass Effect because of its complex cultures and politics, less so the main genocidal robot enemies. "When I taught university" That's about as subtle as a nuclear weapon...but even if true it explains EVERYTHING.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 9:58:45 GMT
The Kett would be better if instead of being monsterous drones they were a race of high art and culture that looked beautiful on the surface but were twisted and a genetic mess from the inside. So although on they seemingly perfected their outside appearance and society, they remain shallow on conscious and spiritual level.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Mar 29, 2017 10:20:33 GMT
It's just a game dude. Lighten up if people disagree with you. Also, what's wrong with the idea the Kett are a bunch of resource hungry conquerors? Because it's a bunch of leftwing SJW nonsense of seeing what you want to see and trying to push your dogma. Just like you in the other thread saying people should have all the babies they want and everyone else should be OK with paying for that kid and sacrificing for it.
Seriously, you just radiate SJW nonsense in your replies.
Being anti-colonialism is now considered being SJW? What the actual fuck!
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 10:26:41 GMT
Because it's a bunch of leftwing SJW nonsense of seeing what you want to see and trying to push your dogma. Just like you in the other thread saying people should have all the babies they want and everyone else should be OK with paying for that kid and sacrificing for it.
Seriously, you just radiate SJW nonsense in your replies.
Being anti-colonialism is now considered being SJW? What the actual fuck! No, ranting about something that doesn't actually exist any longer is being an SJW.
Blaming colonialism for some backwards cultures that were backwards before colonialism (ie...blaming the evil white man) is being an SJW.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Mar 29, 2017 10:35:19 GMT
Being anti-colonialism is now considered being SJW? What the actual fuck! No, ranting about something that doesn't actually exist any longer is being an SJW.
Blaming colonialism for some backwards cultures that were backwards before colonialism (ie...blaming the evil white man) is being an SJW.
How the hell did you get that from what he said? No one is blaming white people! We're discussing a video game, good god!
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Post by Archangel on Mar 29, 2017 14:01:00 GMT
No, ranting about something that doesn't actually exist any longer is being an SJW.
Blaming colonialism for some backwards cultures that were backwards before colonialism (ie...blaming the evil white man) is being an SJW.
How the hell did you get that from what he said? No one is blaming white people! We're discussing a video game, good god! Because when people are whining about colonialism that's what they're doing. They just can't say "it's white people's fault" because you know they would more easily get the racist tag. But crying about nebulous "colonialism" is the same thing.
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Post by laxian on Mar 29, 2017 14:49:34 GMT
The Kett would be better if instead of being monsterous drones they were a race of high art and culture that looked beautiful on the surface but were twisted and a genetic mess from the inside. So although on they seemingly perfected their outside appearance and society, they remain shallow on conscious and spiritual level. Maybe they are - remember: They "seduced" the Angara into letting their guard down (maybe it truly is only the Archon and his faction that prefer outrigt aggression? They could still be conquerors but not the way we think, more like say the Romans with a side dish of making people who surrender to them into more Kett?) and despite the fact that the Archon seems to have a fleet (not even an overly large one!) they might not have all that large a military (I mean the Archon was over all quite easily defeated and he didn't have the numbers to truly stand up to a few thousand poorly armed colonists and one elite team of fighters (I mean most of the A.I. is still in fucking stasis, there's only a few thousand people out...those that were on the Nexus and a very very very few who were/are on the Arks!) I don't think they have much in common with the Reapers, they may be a missled brainwashed cult of a society, but they aren't cyclically wiping out Andromedans I think! greetings LAX
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 29, 2017 15:19:17 GMT
The Kett to me seem more like a mixture of the borg and dominion from star trek. They assimilate like the borg but it seems like they have an hierarchy based on species like the dominion.
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