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Post by misguidedworm7 on Apr 1, 2017 5:04:41 GMT
You may be able to guess what my answer is for this: The reason they seem so overwhelmingly powerful is because we do not have an adequate amount of damage to deal with them. Another facet of this is how rare piercing mods are for weapons, since the Fiend is an armored enemy, having easy access to armor-piercing mods should make them much easier to deal with in theory. I'm still waiting to unlock one, though, despite having maxed out almost all my other Uncommons. Piercing mods do not effect armor resistance in this game. Or at the minimum they do not claim to. Their descriptions are Two variables, I may have fudged the names, but in general the only thing they do is let you shoot through walls at massively reduced damage. And I have noticed no difference dealing with armored enemies with them. As far as I can tell there are no double hit areas on enemies so far. Either way, i don't think having a big damage sponge running around forcing you to leave your bunkered positions is an issue, he will either run out of friends or you will focus him down. The issue i have is the whole grabbing you through walls, roofs, floors, and from great distances arbitrarily. The ascendant I take issue with the enormous death ball that strips your shields and staggers out of cover to be shot all in one, all the time. It could be a stagger ball and it would still be a pita to deal with, the large sum of damage is excessive considering he also fires lasers and can grab you while being tricky to kill if any other enemies are around. The big enemies in this game are not really as tough as last game, tough sure, hard to deal with sure. But they don't feel as powerful compared to their support units within the same faction. Infantry feel a lot tougher, but the heavy hitters feel about as powerful, if not weaker in some regards. Not all, but most. The hydra is equivalent to the atlas. But dealing with Hydras feels a lot easier than dealing with an atlas. When not exploiting the ability to shoot an atlas 3 times with each bullet. Even though raiders generally put assault troopers to shame.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 1, 2017 5:08:55 GMT
Some snipers are slightly overtuned at the moment and most other weapon are massively underperforming. I like talon a lot, probably because it actually does about the same damage it did in me3. For some reason it escaped the nerf hammer while most other shotguns and automatic weapons got absolutely battered.
Many of the n7 weapons are so bad, it's a real shame. Eagle, Valkyrie, Soned, Ushior, Rozerad and Naladen are all pointless at the moment. Dhan isn't worth using over talon either. Same damage basically but 2 shots, why would I pick it over talon? And no I don't think talon is op, the other shotguns need serious buffing.
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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 1, 2017 5:12:01 GMT
Have to admit, grinding just to get the few guns that deal reasonable dps is not fun. Playing ME3 multiplayer for hours before I had every gun I ever wanted didn't give me this 'ugh' feeling Andromeda multiplayer does. Probably because we had serviceable weapons readily available, like the mantis capable of one-shotting phantoms on silver in the right hands, and one-shotting troopers in the body.
@ above Please don't tempt fate. Bioware might nerf the sniper rifles that are capable of efficiently picking off enemies... which is what sniper rifles are for.
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 1, 2017 5:15:38 GMT
Yeah you should definitely do a video to show how a biotic combo takes off one third the health bar of the lowest ranking enemy on gold (unshielded adhi) in andromeda, whereas a single biotic combo can kill multiple enemies on platinum in ME3. Please show that! yea. or use cryo explosions..... but then the video could never be finished biotic explosions have lost a lot, but they are still OP compared to cryo.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 1, 2017 5:33:08 GMT
Nice video, and I agree. They need to buff the weapons up, and please for the love of god don't nerf the raptor. It is finally in a good place in its career. It is actually useful for once.
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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 1, 2017 5:41:42 GMT
All I want is one raptor. But these fking advance packs give me asari adept or sentinel all day. When I was going for a vanquisher, i kept getting sniper rifle barrel mods. This is killing me
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Post by missileglitcher on Apr 1, 2017 5:45:16 GMT
Nice video, and I agree. They need to buff the weapons up, and please for the love of god don't nerf the raptor. It is finally in a good place in its career. It is actually useful for once. It's had one hell of a career! All hail.
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Post by hardcoresalmon on Apr 1, 2017 5:49:00 GMT
@ above Please don't tempt fate. Bioware might nerf the sniper rifles that are capable of efficiently picking off enemies... which is what sniper rifles are for. Even though snipers have been given a buff compared to ME3, I still feel that they are lacking besides the raptor and vanquisher. The main reason is that there are more enemies and we can't reload cancel. It's the most infuriating thing when you try to reload a widow and then an adhi bites you, and then try to reload again and then a krogan blasts you with explosives. One shot snipers really need a reload buff because of the lack of reload cancelling.
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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 1, 2017 6:27:00 GMT
@ above Please don't tempt fate. Bioware might nerf the sniper rifles that are capable of efficiently picking off enemies... which is what sniper rifles are for. Even though snipers have been given a buff compared to ME3, I still feel that they are lacking besides the raptor and vanquisher. The main reason is that there are more enemies and we can't reload cancel. It's the most infuriating thing when you try to reload a widow and then an adhi bites you, and then try to reload again and then a krogan blasts you with explosives. One shot snipers really need a reload buff because of the lack of reload cancelling. You're reading my mind.
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Post by fromthealps on Apr 1, 2017 7:28:24 GMT
Thanks for the video, the balance of this game is depressingly bad.
I's also quite funny how snipers got a double-buff: increased damage and removal of shield-gate. And STILL one shot sniper rifles are painful to use due to the horrendously long reload times, which can also be interrupted by being staggered, sprinting, lag, ec..
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Post by ddrguy300 on Apr 1, 2017 7:48:58 GMT
Great, great video. 100% agree. Id like to see you do one about powers and combos too if you have the time. This. Powers and combos do absolutely nothing in this game. The only think they're good for is like minor stun utility.
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Post by mograximus on Apr 1, 2017 9:36:10 GMT
@ above Please don't tempt fate. Bioware might nerf the sniper rifles that are capable of efficiently picking off enemies... which is what sniper rifles are for. Even though snipers have been given a buff compared to ME3, I still feel that they are lacking besides the raptor and vanquisher. The main reason is that there are more enemies and we can't reload cancel. It's the most infuriating thing when you try to reload a widow and then an adhi bites you, and then try to reload again and then a krogan blasts you with explosives. One shot snipers really need a reload buff because of the lack of reload cancelling. This! Gah! Why do away with reload canceling? It's not like it required skill, just good timing, and the satisfaction of it during hectic, intense scenarios is something game is lacking. 1 Berserkcan keep you perma-stunlocked, absolutely unable to reload unless you run away with your tail tucked between your legs, which is absolutely ridiculous, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M ALSO PLAYING A KROGAN. But of course I'm usually using a shotgun in this scenario. That's what annoys me the most. I'm using a weapon that is meant to be up close and personal, but if I am, I can't reload it due to perma stagger. And the real kicker... the animation finishes before the clip is inserted LOL You have no idea how long it took me to get used to that. After playing ME3 for so long, where the animation continues PAST the clip being loaded. Ugh. As you said... infuriating.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 1, 2017 9:53:09 GMT
There is definitely a ttk issue with guns. And now that CDs are longer that isn't helping either. Why would someone keep playing when his vanilla engineer with shitty peashooter doesn't kill anything?
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Post by kalil on Apr 1, 2017 9:56:21 GMT
I hear ya on the vanquisher. Its a fantatic weapon, way ahead of the rest. If this is intended power level of gun play other guns need like 30-50% buffs
I cannot reproduce your results with the raptor however. Scoping requirement, small clip size and recoil dramatically reduces the actual performance for me. Basically (for me) vanquisher = I top the score board. Raptor = rock bottom on the score board.
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Post by Ajax on Apr 1, 2017 10:05:15 GMT
Great video OP and great point - the current balance destroys any motivation to grind. I've racked up 200+ hours in ME3 MP. Spent about 100 bucks on packs. Never regretted a single minute or dollar.
Here? Bought some Andromeda points right off the bat for about 10 bucks, played about 10 games, discovered how completely ineffective all the guns I have and all the powers I use are and stopped playing completely. Also, something people rarely mention - isn't anyone at least slightly disappointed how samey is MEA MP compared to ME3 MP? I for one expected some innovation but all we got is exactly the same model - three types of enemies, exactly the same mission structure (hacking, holding ground, VIP targets). Some enemies are even reskins of ME3 enemies - Fiend is Brute, Hydra is Atlas, basic troops are barely any different.
Eh. Now I'm pretty much waiting for Tuesday when Bioware reveals their plans for the game.
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Post by biotichazard on Apr 1, 2017 12:00:14 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal.
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Post by TormDK on Apr 1, 2017 12:12:21 GMT
I'm not feeling the Raptor (Have it at X), compared with the Thokin. The scope is annoying too (I understand it's a sniper rifle and therefore has it)
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Post by Paynezz on Apr 1, 2017 12:21:37 GMT
ME:A right now is onlyUSEmeVANQUISHER.
Not that I'm complaining, it's gotten me some sick credits
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Post by Kenny Bania on Apr 1, 2017 13:37:46 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal.
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Post by yakabucci on Apr 1, 2017 13:48:15 GMT
Yep, this is why the MP is getting boring for me. I'm sick of using only 2 or 3 weapons otherwise willfully gimping myself. The weapons are almost universally horrible save a small handful.
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Post by yakabucci on Apr 1, 2017 13:57:55 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal. You're missing the entire point. What you're saying may have some truth to it, but it's only because everyone in the game is running a Vanquisher or one of the other few guns in that power tier. If everyone was running Ushior instead, gold would be quite a different game eh? Perhaps a few of the top tier weapons need to be brought down some, but more importantly, the greatly underperforming weapons (90% of them) need to be brought up significantly so people aren't stuck Vanquishing every single game lest they gimp themselves.
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Post by SilentFear on Apr 1, 2017 14:14:19 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal. I wanted to start my reply whit something else but your post just made me cringe. Game been easy and been fun are two different thing. ME3 plat was easy but also fun. Playing ME:A is tedious and boring and every character and weapon feels weak and annoying. I like how players like you try and fail to paint the current situation as an improvement. "But but it makes it so you have to be flixible" - no its not. Having to flee in terror from the most basic mooks due to not picking the one weapon that can do more then scratch them or the one kit that can maybe disable them - is not a fun thing to do for 7 waves. ME3 mooks were also swarming you and forcing you to move but not due to your weapon been squirt gun but buy using "skills" or overwhelming you whit the few elite troops at the front. Right now after maxing most of my uncommon ( and still not having any uncommon mods ) and having quite a few rare and ultra rare guns i can say this - the game is already boring for me. I just dont get exited for anything in my boxes at all - latest disapointment for me was getting the P.A.W ultra rare rifle - you need full clip just to strip 90% of the Observer shields - WHAT FUN RIGHT ? Each match i will attempt to bring weapon different then the Vanquisher or Talon and will dread my choice. Having to fire two full clips just to kill enemy most basic trooper is a joke. And even worst god forbid you want to switch from biotics and mele to lets say tech - GOOD FUCKING LUCK whit that. My Krogan Engineer cant take 1/4th of the enemy hp whit tech combo .... So no they didnt make it to take more skill or more cooperation. They made it a slog where very few weapons and kits perform on a normal level - and everything else may as well not be there. If they wanted to increase dificulty they choice the wrong path. They could have swarmed us whit basic troops and elits amids them forcing us to move and kite and "control" but instead they gave us shite kits and shite guns and told us to go have fun. Well im just not having fun. My characters dont feel like some elite troops and my weapons feel like a plastic toys. So i will skip on the multiplayer for now ( after getting to 7k apex rating ) and go play something else.
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Post by valkyriesr2 on Apr 1, 2017 14:16:17 GMT
We really need buffs. Fast.
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Post by Ares on Apr 1, 2017 14:52:37 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal. I don't need everything asap. I want to play and have fun. I'm just not having the maximum amount of fun if I need to empty a full clip from a talon point blank into a basic red bar mook... its not fun, its tedious af. And talon is actually one of the few ok guns. We have way too many shitty guns atm and its a fact. Now all my builds focus around melee because it makes gold pug games doable. No variety, one of the things I loved in me3, especially when I was playing gold.
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Post by oneils on Apr 1, 2017 15:01:24 GMT
These threads are just as annoying now as they were in the old bioware forum. This game is already too easy. Gold games ending in 20mins or less with random pugs with nearly 100% success rate in the first week of the game. The ai is much dumber in this game. They're already going down like paper tigers with the guns we have. Do we really need to make it any easier? I bet gold speed runs would take 10mins tops right now. Buy basic packs till you get level x of the common guns. If the game was any easier, we might as well play tic tac toe. The main people who are complaining are completionists who want to get everything asap instead of enjoying the game for the fun. The completionists ruined me3. Once they got everything, they started missile spamming every game. Fun was never their goal. Gold is easy with a few different builds and weapons (melee and snipers). I'd like to use more than a few builds or weapons. That's all.
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