Wow Single Shot snipers have serious issues

OK, I checked with two human soldiers and two guns. One soldier had munitions training passive 5b for 15% faster reload and another did not have it.

With Dhan I, no bonus reload is on average 2.22 sec and with bonus 2.05 sec. Seems like works but not exactly 15%, less than 10. Although these animation are hard to get exactly. I tried to press stopwatch and R at the same time and press stopwatch again when ammo count goes up.

With Falcon III, no bonus reload is 2.41 sec on average and with bonus it goes down to 2.06 sec and this is about right with 15% almost exactly.

So, seems like depends on weapon and its animation. There is some bonus in either case. It is just 15% is a bit underwhelming.

Another good thing this passive 5b does is increasing clip size. On dhan, it jumped from 2 to 3 shots and on falcon it goes up from 6 to 8 shots. Looks like 20% is rounded up. Obviously, does not work on single shot weapons.

Turbo does not seem to speed up reload. When cast, it instantly reloads but otherwise, ROF is yes, increased, but reload speed is same. I checked with same two guns. Well, IDK, working as intended I guess to some extent.

I also checked turbo rank 5b which is promised to give 40% accuracy and 40% stability. It is very subjective and quite visual. I used thokin II, have not noticed any difference in neither stability nor accuracy either scope or not. Scoped is obviously more stable but if there is increase in accuracy, it is very minor. I did have AR scope X (32% more accuracy, that works, can clearly see the result) and AR stock X (54% stability). I could not find a way to unequip the mod that is currently equipped. So, checked with another gun, cyclone VII. Turbo works, obviously increasing accuracy and a bit stability especially when scoped. Without scoping, this gun obviously cannot hit anything, the spread is ridiculous. I then put same mods on it, AR scope X and AR stock X and they both worked, either scoped or not, no matter or so it seems. With these equipped, turbo marksman might still have some improvement although the effects are very small, IDK if it worked at all. However, it is just my visual impression and other guns might be different. So, in general, for heavy turbo uses, these mods might be somewhat redundant although they work a bit better than rank 5b on turbo on their own. So, if you use turbo a lot, can probably put some damage or clip size mods instead.

Also, I'm out of medigel, cobras and oops packs, thank to yesterday's session of gold games crashing on waves 5, 6 and 7 and disconnects. Well, I guess, I got some bad habits while playing ME3, need to go back to the low scrubbing status or start playing infiltrators with vanquisher, that's what everyone does.

those are alternative facts

akots: That pretty much sums up my experience. The charger doesn´t feel sped up at all, but then again, even without passives, it´s reload is quite fast. Widow is far more noticeable, because of it´s lengthier reload.

I've used a couple on PC, so I know that the feature does work.

Just means you need to think on your toes when you place those shots.

A widow X vs Vanquisher 1 widow loses hard, i mean what the hell?



You fire one shot with the widow and if the game actually does its job you might kill a shielded enemy with a headshot!
Then you reload.........cop of coffee while your at it....in the mean time the Vanquisher 1 already killed 2 to 3 mooks reload is also faster on the Vanquisher meaning lots of DPS and that for a sniper its even better then a Black Widow. You miss and believe me every one misses while sniping but its cruel with a single shot sniper. Vanquisher on the other hand has more then enough ammo in one clip to kill not one but 3 mooks and even if one misses its not a biggie...

This issue could be 100% solved to give single shot snipers a big boost in reload time aka reload cancel as in me3 or a gear that enables cutting reload speed by half or more...

Back in ME3 MP 2 infiltrators one uses a single shot sniper the other say a black widow and both had similar DPS
Heck my friend used a GI Black Widow and me GI Javelin and we where pretty close in DPS.

A single shot sniper ( like Javelin or Widow on ME3 ) should be a high risk, high reward kinda weapon.If you land a headshot , theoretically it would be a OSK.Period.This happens on every other MP game that I've played.....except on Andromeda, of course

I have to disagree with you, law, on the reload cancel.It's an advantage that PC users got on ME3 but this was not supposed to happen, IMO it's Ok to get rid of it.The problem is not the lack of reload cancel, is the stupid ammount of shields/armor of many enemies who need two or even three headshots on gold if you are not lucky enough to get a Vanquisher