inherit
3797
0
Mar 24, 2019 16:23:40 GMT
84
lawshadow
92
Feb 23, 2017 20:32:25 GMT
February 2017
lawshadow
|
Post by lawshadow on Apr 2, 2017 4:55:20 GMT
Coming from ME3 MP as a veteran player rocking a GI Javelin and also Black Widow and Widow. Could kill mooks of all types with a single headshot "one shot one kill". You can't miss but if you did well at least you could "cancel reload". What was BW thinking the reload is absolute GARBAGE it takes massive amounts of time to reload, take out a bullet from "pocket" lift the arm towards chamber and take your time place bullet in chamber then grab the lever and pull it "click" so i run but no F*cking bullet WTF so here is the correct way once the bullet is in the chamber the guy needs to return to default stance before you can fire!! Holy cow to many times ive had this issue.
Some times your in a pinch situation and no cloak its either cover or run or fight back and there are times the only option is fight back well thx to the uber slow reload you pretty much toast. On the contrary in ME3 quick reload and get rid of the treat.
ME3 regular reload is miles faster i want to kill as many mooks as possible but the game mechanics wont allow this its a TERRIBLE design it should be a progression instead of decay.
It's also about fun no need for "realistic" approach as close as possible without people getting REALLY upset then there would be no point in sniping.
Another issue is from cover 7 out of 10 you can aim from cover then shoot but at times i aim nothing happens "so wait a sec bullet in chamber? YES" and no one is near me to be the culprit.
More issues and most by now know this even a weak enemy trooper off host flat out 100% headshot but i only get 50% damage odd so next time il shoot at body from full health and he dies. How the game recognize damage is pure garbage at times i can single headshot a fully shielded enemy i have no clue why that is....
Oh im using a Widow 9 with sr 3 barrel, sniper rifle amp 2, and vulnerability 2 or 3 with the Salarian infiltrator. A similar setup would kill most mooks even phantoms with a single headshot 100% and that on gold and platinum!
Solutions either bring back quick reload or give us a permanent gear like the ones you can buy with mission funds a gear that reduces reload time by HALF, no need for cheap tricks as a consumable item.
No wonder if i see people with snipers its most of the time Vanguisher yeah 5 shots magazine its more like a scoped rifle then a proper sniper.
Oh god this game needs allot of fixing im hopeful these issues and much more will be fixed in due time. If youre a single shot sniper user you want one shot one kill including shielded enemies not 2 shots! Allowing the chance to miss just because the enemy ducks right at the moment you fire. Enemy still alive this means reload and by the time he is gone or some damn DOG is humping you from behind!
|
|
inherit
TRASHCAN Director
4896
0
3,750
Doctor Fumbles
2,658
March 2017
drfumbles
|
Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 2, 2017 5:39:07 GMT
I do agree they have to increase the reload time, so we are not reloading twice because the simplest movement screws it up. I would also like reload canceling back as well. If they only give us one though, fix the reload issue, so I am not reloading twice. Also fix the off host hit box issue.
|
|
inherit
The Pathfinder
638
0
Sept 22, 2017 23:01:09 GMT
9,422
Serza
Rendering planets viable since 2017
6,301
August 2016
serza
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
13152
|
Post by Serza on Apr 2, 2017 7:46:33 GMT
Vanquisher's more of a DMR than a "mere rifle" which alludes to assault and battle rifles.
Widow, Isharay and the like are comparable to Anti-Material Rifles. So something firing .50 BMG or worse. There are 20mm Anti-Mats in the world.
|
|
inherit
TRASHCAN Director
4896
0
3,750
Doctor Fumbles
2,658
March 2017
drfumbles
|
Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 2, 2017 7:49:15 GMT
Vanquisher's more of a DMR than a "mere rifle" which alludes to assault and battle rifles. Widow, Isharay and the like are comparable to Anti-Material Rifles. So something firing .50 BMG or worse. There are 20mm Anti-Mats in the world. Wouldn't the Black Widow be considered a DMR as well due to its semi automatic nature in this universe. |
|
inherit
3
0
13,409
Pearl
optics cuck
3,898
August 2016
pearl
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda
FatherOfPearl
FatherOfPearl
7,305
3,002
|
Post by Pearl on Apr 2, 2017 7:54:27 GMT
Vanquisher's more of a DMR than a "mere rifle" which alludes to assault and battle rifles. Widow, Isharay and the like are comparable to Anti-Material Rifles. So something firing .50 BMG or worse. There are 20mm Anti-Mats in the world. Wouldn't the Black Widow be considered a DMR as well due to its semi automatic nature in this universe. No, it's still a fully-fledged anti-materiel rifle. It just happens to be semi-automatic. |
|
inherit
The Pathfinder
638
0
Sept 22, 2017 23:01:09 GMT
9,422
Serza
Rendering planets viable since 2017
6,301
August 2016
serza
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
13152
|
Post by Serza on Apr 2, 2017 7:57:22 GMT
Vanquisher's more of a DMR than a "mere rifle" which alludes to assault and battle rifles. Widow, Isharay and the like are comparable to Anti-Material Rifles. So something firing .50 BMG or worse. There are 20mm Anti-Mats in the world. Wouldn't the Black Widow be considered a DMR as well due to its semi automatic nature in this universe. Actually... .50 BMG comes in all shapes and sizes... of launcher. *looks at M82A3/M107* Wouldn't the Black Widow be considered a DMR as well due to its semi automatic nature in this universe. No, it's still a fully-fledged anti-materiel rifle. It just happens to be semi-automatic. Huh. Isn't it's damage more in line with Viper etc.? |
|
inherit
TRASHCAN Director
4896
0
3,750
Doctor Fumbles
2,658
March 2017
drfumbles
|
Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 2, 2017 7:59:31 GMT
Wouldn't the Black Widow be considered a DMR as well due to its semi automatic nature in this universe. No, it's still a fully-fledged anti-materiel rifle. It just happens to be semi-automatic. ok. So currently the only true DMRs in the Sniper class are the Vanquisher and the Viper. The Black Widow is just it's own category basically.(Yes, I know it's an anti-material rifle, but it lacks the punch of the one round rifles.) Edit: I am trying to avoid real world comparisons aside from anti-material because they are not 1 to 1 since even bolt actions can fire faster then the one hit rifles. |
|
inherit
5119
0
Sept 7, 2017 23:52:32 GMT
47
cosmiccricket
36
Mar 19, 2017 21:40:55 GMT
March 2017
cosmiccricket
|
Post by cosmiccricket on Apr 2, 2017 8:52:38 GMT
I think single shot sniper rifles are like many other weapons in this game in that they are terrible until fully upgraded at rank X & rank X barrel.
I was using a Widow for the gold APEX mission today, which was a sniper rifle boost, and there I saw the potential for single shot sniper rifles to be super fun again. I was 1 shotting everything but Berserkers and Hydras, and 2 shotting the Berserkers. Perhaps eventually, when I have an Isharay X/SR Barrel X and some sniper rifle amps to throw away, I will be able to replicate these results.
|
|
inherit
2749
0
Jul 17, 2017 22:05:36 GMT
33
poekel
26
Jan 11, 2017 10:45:53 GMT
January 2017
poekel
|
Post by poekel on Apr 2, 2017 10:41:11 GMT
Oh im using a Widow 9 with sr 3 barrel, sniper rifle amp 2, and vulnerability 2 or 3 with the Salarian infiltrator. A similar setup would kill most mooks even phantoms with a single headshot 100% and that on gold and platinum! One question: Did you spec for Combat Cloak? With a 1 shot sniper there is absolutely no reason to spec for it. Without it the cooldown of TC will be affected by time cloaked, so usually you will get a 4-5 second cooldown if you cloak and fire. With Combat Cloak you'll always get the full cooldown. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
94
0
Nov 28, 2024 23:39:07 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 23:39:07 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 10:42:01 GMT
Fixing the hit-box and penetration issues is an absolute must, I agree. No reload-canceling is a shame, but I've sniped without that for a long time and didn't have any problems. Considering that it WAS a glitch which the devs eventually acknowledged as "clever use of game mechanics" most likely because they couldn't fix it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised to see it removed.
Infiltrators in general were super-op in ME3MP, even more so with Reload-Cancel - it was to be expected that their damage would take a dip.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
94
0
Nov 28, 2024 23:39:07 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 23:39:07 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 15:34:39 GMT
Oh im using a Widow 9 with sr 3 barrel, sniper rifle amp 2, and vulnerability 2 or 3 with the Salarian infiltrator. A similar setup would kill most mooks even phantoms with a single headshot 100% and that on gold and platinum! One question: Did you spec for Combat Cloak? With a 1 shot sniper there is absolutely no reason to spec for it. Without it the cooldown of TC will be affected by time cloaked, so usually you will get a 4-5 second cooldown if you cloak and fire. With Combat Cloak you'll always get the full cooldown. Sounds very interesting, definitely something to try out! |
|
inherit
2166
0
598
s0ulbearer
475
Nov 22, 2016 23:21:46 GMT
November 2016
s0ulbearer
|
Post by s0ulbearer on Apr 2, 2017 15:57:51 GMT
Fixing the hit-box and penetration issues is an absolute must, I agree. No reload-canceling is a shame, but I've sniped without that for a long time and didn't have any problems. Considering that it WAS a glitch which the devs eventually acknowledged as "clever use of game mechanics" most likely because they couldn't fix it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised to see it removed. Infiltrators in general were super-op in ME3MP, even more so with Reload-Cancel - it was to be expected that their damage would take a dip. This topic always makes me lol. I'm fine with the long reload times, but damage should definitely be making up for that, which IMO it doesn't. |
|
inherit
4891
0
1,718
someN7orother
will work for ops packs
441
March 2017
somen7orother
|
Post by someN7orother on Apr 2, 2017 16:14:38 GMT
Considering that it WAS a glitch which the devs eventually acknowledged as "clever use of game mechanics" most likely because they couldn't fix it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised to see it removed. Seriously. I know I'm going to regret getting into this debate, but why do people keep perpetuating this this myth? Reload (and more broadly, animation) cancelling has been a feature since ME2, where it was introduced by design. Christina Norman explains: "The reload trick is by design. It isn't a glitch. I know because I put it in on purpose!""The reload trick is an example of canceling animations. This is a pretty common technique though it is primarily used in fighting games..."
"Also reload trick is kind of a dumb name we should really call it reload canceling."
Other shooters have this mechanic as well. It was also in ME3, where it was expanded to allow for stuff like Nova cancelling, despite being a widely known and somewhat controversial thing already. Far from restricting or removing it, it was incorporated into DLCs, such as with the Smash animation being cancelable. No, it was not a glitch. No, it was not impossible to patch out. They took it out in Andromeda for reasons we'll likely never know because the level of dev/community interaction has been steadily going down the shitter. Reload canceling is not coming back, and asking for it is a waste of time. I want a gun damage increase to make up for the loss of DPS caused by the removal of reload canceling. |
|
inherit
2166
0
598
s0ulbearer
475
Nov 22, 2016 23:21:46 GMT
November 2016
s0ulbearer
|
Post by s0ulbearer on Apr 2, 2017 16:17:48 GMT
Considering that it WAS a glitch which the devs eventually acknowledged as "clever use of game mechanics" most likely because they couldn't fix it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised to see it removed. Seriously. I know I'm going to regret getting into this debate, but why do people keep perpetuating this this myth? Reload (and more broadly, animation) cancelling has been a feature since ME2, where it was introduced by design. Christina Norman explains: "The reload trick is by design. It isn't a glitch. I know because I put it in on purpose!""The reload trick is an example of canceling animations. This is a pretty common technique though it is primarily used in fighting games..."
"Also reload trick is kind of a dumb name we should really call it reload canceling."
Other shooters have this mechanic as well. It was also in ME3, where it was expanded to allow for stuff like Nova cancelling, despite being a widely known and somewhat controversial thing already. Far from restricting or removing it, it was incorporated into DLCs, such as with the Smash animation being cancelable. No, it was not a glitch. No, it was not impossible to patch out. They took it out in Andromeda for reasons we'll likely never know because the level of dev/community interaction has been steadily going down the shitter. Reload canceling is not coming back, and asking for it is a waste of time. I want a gun damage increase to make up for the loss of DPS caused by the removal of reload canceling. Here we go. |
|
Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: N7_SP3CTR3
Prime Posts: 2077
Posts: 393 Likes: 1,659
inherit
119
0
1,659
Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3
393
August 2016
voodoo2722
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
N7_SP3CTR3
2077
|
Post by Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3 on Apr 2, 2017 16:39:58 GMT
:poop:
|
|
Fortack
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: LordFortack
Posts: 39 Likes: 183
inherit
6339
0
Jul 12, 2017 21:46:38 GMT
183
Fortack
39
Mar 27, 2017 18:30:11 GMT
March 2017
fortack
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
LordFortack
|
Post by Fortack on Apr 2, 2017 16:58:04 GMT
Reload cancelling hasn't gone anywhere. I am cancelling my reloads all the time. You apparently have to stand perfectly still, like a meditating zen-Buddhist or something, to not mess up the reload - which is kinda hard when you're under heavy fire and don't like dying very much.
|
|
inherit
3797
0
Mar 24, 2019 16:23:40 GMT
84
lawshadow
92
Feb 23, 2017 20:32:25 GMT
February 2017
lawshadow
|
Post by lawshadow on Apr 2, 2017 16:58:28 GMT
Oh im using a Widow 9 with sr 3 barrel, sniper rifle amp 2, and vulnerability 2 or 3 with the Salarian infiltrator. A similar setup would kill most mooks even phantoms with a single headshot 100% and that on gold and platinum! One question: Did you spec for Combat Cloak? With a 1 shot sniper there is absolutely no reason to spec for it. Without it the cooldown of TC will be affected by time cloaked, so usually you will get a 4-5 second cooldown if you cloak and fire. With Combat Cloak you'll always get the full cooldown. Now that you mention it I probably did used the combat cloak on my tree in case I would be using the Black Widow. Since I don't have there is no point. So now comes how do I respec? I did once one my human soldier lvl 20 and it gave me no options to re allocate points instead I had to begin from lvl 1 again something I rather not be doing again. Did I do something wrong? Back in me3 with a respec card you could re allocate points as you see fit. |
|
TormDK
N3
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: TormDK
Posts: 880 Likes: 1,378
inherit
4219
0
Jun 13, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
1,378
TormDK
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
880
March 2017
tormdk
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
TormDK
|
Post by TormDK on Apr 2, 2017 16:59:50 GMT
One question: Did you spec for Combat Cloak? With a 1 shot sniper there is absolutely no reason to spec for it. Without it the cooldown of TC will be affected by time cloaked, so usually you will get a 4-5 second cooldown if you cloak and fire. With Combat Cloak you'll always get the full cooldown. Now that you mention it I probably did used the combat cloak on my tree in case I would be using the Black Widow. Since I don't have there is no point. So now comes how do I respec? I did once one my human soldier lvl 20 and it gave me no options to re allocate points instead I had to begin from lvl 1 again something I rather not be doing again. Did I do something wrong? Back in me3 with a respec card you could re allocate points as you see fit. Respec cards still exist, so you likely did not respec your level 20, but promoted him instead as this will put them back to level 1, and give you a whooping 25 APEX Rating for your troubles  *EDIT* If you don't have them, you can buy them using Mission Funds in the item store, costs 15 (if I recall correctly) funds. |
|
inherit
N7
289
0
8,019
Terminator Force
4,314
August 2016
terminatorforce
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
TerminatorForce2
|
Post by Terminator Force on Apr 2, 2017 17:36:48 GMT
There's at least passives to increase reload speeds. Try that.
|
|
inherit
1224
0
3,686
nucleartech76
1,076
August 2016
nucleartech76
|
Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 2, 2017 17:39:45 GMT
You fucking pussies, I'm drunk. 1v1 me thunderdome.
|
|
akots
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: akots
Posts: 814 Likes: 2,441
inherit
559
0
Nov 28, 2024 23:20:53 GMT
2,441
akots
814
August 2016
akots
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
akots
|
Post by akots on Apr 2, 2017 17:43:41 GMT
There's at least passives to increase reload speeds. Try that. I'm not sure the passive actually works, not on human soldier(s). Turbo marksman is also supposed to speed up the reload aka ME3 but again, does not seem to be the case. Although I'm not so sure, need a better stopwatch, tried it with the phone only but seems that it has some input lag.  There is obviously something wrong with the whole reload thing. Either bad-bad design or not working as intended. |
|
TormDK
N3
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: TormDK
Posts: 880 Likes: 1,378
inherit
4219
0
Jun 13, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
1,378
TormDK
"No Fear! No Pity! NO REMORSE!"
880
March 2017
tormdk
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
TormDK
|
Post by TormDK on Apr 2, 2017 18:47:47 GMT
The best sniper in the game is Ishray bought on Voild (sp?) I've used it through one complete playthrough and part way through another on hardcore. "Some times you're in a pinch situation and no cloak its either cover or run or fight back and there are times the only option is fight back well thx to the uber slow reload you pretty much toast. On the contrary in ME3 quick reload and get rid of the treat."That's when you quick switch weapons. With my build(s) I have no problem applying powerful tactics to the battlefield using a one shot sniper. The Ishray can be leveled up to VIII does 1200 damage in one shot. The thing about MEA combat is that you're not meant to simply camp all the time. You need to move around. However if you control the battlefield there should be no problem whatsoever with the slower loading mechanic it's never been an issue for me. Just control the battlefield and level up another weapon for tight spots. Use your powers, you have all of them available so I don't get the problem here. Wrong forum, but welcome! |
|
Urizen
N4
Disclaimer: No brain cells were harmed in the making of this post.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Origin: 2Holedoll
Posts: 1,182 Likes: 5,521
inherit
124
0
Feb 14, 2024 16:44:48 GMT
5,521
Urizen
Disclaimer: No brain cells were harmed in the making of this post.
1,182
August 2016
urizen
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
2Holedoll
|
Post by Urizen on Apr 2, 2017 18:58:36 GMT
I'm not sure the passive actually works, not on human soldier(s). Turbo marksman is also supposed to speed up the reload aka ME3 but again, does not seem to be the case. Although I'm not so sure, need a better stopwatch, tried it with the phone only but seems that it has some input lag. There is obviously something wrong with the whole reload thing. Either bad-bad design or not working as intended. Onhost it seems to work. Atleast the reload feels faster with it, if even only slightly. Offhost however it´s a different matter altogether. After all, even in cover I often reload 2 times and turbocharge doesn´t cancel it either. |
|
peabuddie
N2
You did good, kid.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate
Posts: 149 Likes: 116
inherit
2828
0
116
peabuddie
You did good, kid.
149
Jan 15, 2017 21:03:09 GMT
January 2017
peabuddie
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate
|
Post by peabuddie on Apr 2, 2017 18:58:51 GMT
whoops, that's what being up all night 2 nights in a row does to you. Sorry guys.
|
|
inherit
10
0
Aug 30, 2019 23:02:33 GMT
16,068
SalMasRac
Salarian Master Pimp
2,932
August 2016
salmasrac
Mass Effect Trilogy, KOTOR
SalMasRac
PurpGuy
|
Post by SalMasRac on Apr 2, 2017 19:08:27 GMT
Considering that it WAS a glitch which the devs eventually acknowledged as "clever use of game mechanics" most likely because they couldn't fix it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised to see it removed. All they would have had to do to fix it would be to fill the ammo at the end of the animation instead of halfway through. It should amaze me that actual quotes from actual developers of the actual game don't count, but it no longer does. |
|
