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Post by michaelm on Apr 2, 2017 22:48:33 GMT
The Andromeda Initiative is by all means, an independent civilian endeavor, like a private corporation trying to settle a new world. But these are still people of their home Governments, and hopefully if all goes well enough, the Initiative is going to turn into a major power in the Heleus Cluster, complete with bustling cities on Eos, Kadara, and Elaadan etc, as well as the Nexus Station, it's future projected 2M+ inhabitants, and an assumed future fleet of warships to defend it all.
Now, suppose, one day in the future they manage to successfully establish a means of feasible communication across Dark Space back to whatever civilizations have arisen from the Reaper War. What are the odds you think these new Governments will want to try and extend influence or even dominion over the Initiative? It's not like Earth can send an Armada over to Andromeda to enforce the new Human colony worlds under the banner of the Systems Alliance, (or whatever exists now). If there was a means of making the travel between Galaxies less lengthy, then the desire for control would grow as Colonies in Andromeda would be a major boost in power for whoever back home.
Perhaps in those 630 years Earth and the others had begun to deploy their own Mass Relay network out into Dark Space in a long term plan to bridge the gap and create a corridor, similar to how it was done in the show Stargate SG1, where they took and placed a series of Stargates between the two Galaxies as a bridge. It's not unlikely that after the Reaper War the home Races would've put extensive work into studying the Mass Relays, even if they were busted up after the Destroy Ending of 3, and Matriarch Aethyta even mentioned she tried to suggest the Asari start building their own Relays.
If the conditions were met, would you think the Governments back home would try and establish rule over the Andromeda Colonies?
Or perhaps they would recognize the Initiative as a Sovereign State?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 6:13:40 GMT
I think the Council would recognize the Andromeda colonies as independent, unless they sought to join the Council.
There are independent colony worlds founded by Council species in the Milky Way for instance, like Illium or Noveria.
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Post by sil on Apr 12, 2017 14:10:35 GMT
I would guess that they would remain independent, but would likely be courted by the Council to join the fold.
I'm certain the Council would want the Angara to join Citadel space.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 13, 2017 1:13:49 GMT
If the Council doesn't even have authority over the Terminus Systems (which does have mass relays) how could they possibly have it over the Heleus Cluster? I say that would not and could not have any authority there. Also, by the time they got there, the Andromedans would have their own system(s) of government in place. In fact, that's already happened.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 2:10:49 GMT
If the Council doesn't even have authority over the Terminus Systems (which does have mass relays) how could they possibly have it over the Heleus Cluster? I say that would not and could not have any authority there. Also, by the time they got there, the Andromedans would have their own system(s) of government in place. In fact, that's already happened. One of the long term goals of the Andromeda Initiative is to build a Mass Effect relay that connects the Heleus Cluster to the Milky Way. Of course, whether or not that will actually happen at some point in the series remains to be seen.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 13, 2017 2:18:52 GMT
If the Council doesn't even have authority over the Terminus Systems (which does have mass relays) how could they possibly have it over the Heleus Cluster? I say that would not and could not have any authority there. Also, by the time they got there, the Andromedans would have their own system(s) of government in place. In fact, that's already happened. One of the long term goals of the Andromeda Initiative is to build a Mass Effect relay that connects the Heleus Cluster to the Milky Way. Of course, whether or not that will actually happen at some point in the series remains to be seen. The goal was to establish trade routes. That's very different than ceding authority.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 2:38:58 GMT
One of the long term goals of the Andromeda Initiative is to build a Mass Effect relay that connects the Heleus Cluster to the Milky Way. Of course, whether or not that will actually happen at some point in the series remains to be seen. The goal was to establish trade routes. That's very different than ceding authority. I agree with that, but a connection to the Milky Way would open the possibility of becoming Council space. Travel between a relay in Heleus and one in the Milky Way would be near instantaneous. Without a relay connecting the two however it is isn't even possible, since the two are separated by a journey that would take 600 years one way. It really depends on what the Andromeda colonists want and whether a relay ever gets completed. Assuming a relay gets built you could also end up with a scenario where some Heleus colony worlds are part of Council space and others are independent, since even in the game the Milky Way colonists were not united into a single faction, and the Angarans for right now are sort of independent from the Nexus. My bet would be that would be that if Bioware ever connects the two galaxies into a single game, the Eos and the Nexus/Meridian colonists would be part of Council space while Kadara would be the Andromeda version of the Terminus. Elaaden I suppose would probably depend on player choices, either being independent like Kadara or part of Council space via its ties to the Nexus. I'd also bet on the Angarans having a Citadel embassy. Of course that's just all speculation.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 13, 2017 2:56:54 GMT
@hanshotfirst: If it were me, I wouldn't go back to being part of the Council. The AI did their own thing. For example, SAM is legal in the AI but not in Council space. SAM exists in all the pathfinders. How can that be reconciled? That's just the beginning, too, but I'm sure there are other things that would put the Nexus at odds with the Council. 4 beings in a distant galaxy ruling in Andromeda...I doubt it would be instant, either. I'd bet that there would be a lot of secondary relays between to make this work. Then, the kicker, you're making an assumption that a Council even exists. A Refuse ending says they don't, or even if they do they're in no shape to be ruling anyone else. BioWare would have to establish a canon ending for ME3 in order for what you suggest to work.
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