AngryJoe's review on MEA

Ah, so what you are saying is that the camera needed to focus on Cora's arse at every single opportunity, and PeeBee needed a cameltoe?

I was on the fence about buying the game right away, but I think I'm going to wait awhile until the glitches are patched. 

I'm just going to post this again because apparently it bears repeating

Having a difference of opinion does not mean that someone has to be wrong: people like different things. Some people like blood orange and others do not: this does not mean that either party has bad taste, just that they have different tastes. You don't like Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. You hate Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. I like Mass Effect: Andromeda. That's also fine. I love Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's also fine. We simply have different opinions and tastes in games.

This isn't a war we need to wage: it's a video game. We may want different things and our feedback might reflect that but there's no reason to start insulting and attacking each other over this. We can have civil conversations and discussions. Direct our feedback at the developers, share and discuss it with other. There's nothing constructive or positive to be gained from making the forums hostile by putting each other down. This applies across the board both to people who feel negatively towards the game and people who feel positively towards the game.

I agree with your sentiment, and it was well worded. However I do find it discouraging that Bioware took the writing in this direction, as it seems intentional. Whether it's "market research" and "demographics" that led them to this decision, or they truly believe this writing style is superior, I can't say. But when people praise them for what I consider to be a straight-up drop in quality, I feel compelled to engage and voice my disagreement. If I (and others like me) don't, then there is zero chance Bioware will improve (or change direction).

I agree with your sentiment, and it was well worded. However I do find it discouraging that Bioware took the writing in this direction, as it seems intentional. Whether it's "market research" and "demographics" that led them to this decision, or they truly believe this writing style is superior, I can't say. But when people praise them for what I consider to be a straight-up drop in quality, I feel compelled to engage and voice my disagreement. If I (and others like me) don't, then there is zero chance Bioware will improve (or change direction).

Am I the only one who thinks getting called a fanboy for liking this game is getting really fucking old?

Do YOU realize how stupid YOUR point about Peter Parker in context of our discussion? No one would complain about Peter Parker because as you said it yourself - he was designed to appeal to children and teens. The problem with Andromeda is that Ryder=Peter Parker, except that Mass Effect was never a sci-fi teen drama. So naturally fans of original trilogy were expecting story and character writing at the very least on the level of original trilogy - imagine the outrage if CDPRed would release Witcher 3 except make Geralt and everyone around him talk and behave like 16 year olds with a comparative story to boot. If BW were intending to make a game for younger audience, then they should have made it clear and not tried to cash in on Mass Effect fanbase. And I am not talking about tone of the game - I am perfectly fine with tone in Andromeda being lighter and more adventurous compared to more grim tone of OT, but that does not mean that lead character cast and story should be on a teen fanfic level of writing. Again, Spiderman is perfectly fine because the way it does things perfectly corresponds with the way it was intended to do thing, but Andromeda with Mass Effect title infront doesn't - that series were never presented as a teen and socalled young adults centric.  Right now, at least from mature point of view, it feels that Andromeda Initiative are not the milky way's fines and brightest, but most moronic, immature, queer and mentally challenged collection of loosers that were sent to Andromeda with a sole purpose of getting rid of them. 

I am living my 30's, and when I was Ryder age, I already had 3 marks from gunshot wounds on my body, just to put things into perspective, yet all that was happening did not made me into goofy moron because "it is Ryder way of coping with harsh reality" thing, but neither it made me into grumpy grognard for that matter. Its just that when things get serious, so does a person, especially when one has a lot of responsibility for others, but Ryder seems to be not even half-aware of what is going on around.

As for throwing "fanboy" around - sorry, but that's not an insult but a description of exact impression that ppl, who claim to be adult but advocate this game protagonist and character writing, leave. Sorry if you got insulted, triggered or whatever - "I can be insensitive"(c)Ryder (Right BW, as if there is no other option in existence to politely agree to disagree than to just keel over. No bias and propaganda at all...)

None of the the last three games were this buggy. The antagonist's were far stronger. The plot was far better. The companions far stronger. The choices Shepard had more varied. Andromeda retreads a lot of the first Mass Effect too. 

The antagonist's were far stronger.