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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 3, 2017 6:02:58 GMT
The people who came out of cryo, I'm noticing, do have memory/mental issues at least in the short term. There's at least 2-3 times I've heard NPCs be confused and not remember or fully comprehend things about the Initiative, in the Cryo Bay.
Obviously this is supposed to be short term, but I think I read from someone that Lexi also remarks on the exiles in some way that there is some brain damage? Can someone corroborate?
What do you think this means for Andromeda? Sure most of them are mostly fine most of the time, but we're also dealing with basically slightly mentally incompetent (compared to otherwise) people..
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Post by Command0rk on Apr 3, 2017 6:18:10 GMT
Ah yes! I can corroborate! I believe it's a data pad on Podromos, which shows that scientists have noted high incidences of various mental ailments induced by the effects of cryo stasis. Post stasis anxiety is the only one I remember. And Lexi's observation is a quest on Paradise, Eladdin; which notes a neurochemical imbalance in the brains of various scavengers, generally causing more aggressive behaviours.
Lexi also develops a syrum to combat it. So it may be as simple as that? Glad you made this topic, OP.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 3, 2017 6:28:23 GMT
Nice. Thank you.
So it really does sound like this problem, like so many others, will be largely resolved in the Heleus Cluster (even if Ryder and Lexi doesn't do this, it can just be one of those things that at most gets a small note or bit of altered dialogue if you tag it in a 'Mass Effect Archives', and it gets addressed by someone at some point). I can imagine anything of 'exiles' to become more civilized in the future, even proper competing multi-species nations of sorts, barring Bioware mucking things up with more details.
Given how quests work, maybe this can be a thread though. Like a particular secondary or primary character being damaged by this process.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 3, 2017 8:24:10 GMT
I think the Exiles problem was merely they became murderous pirates to survive and learned they liked it.
It's not exactly unprecedented in history for people to go savage.
"Heart of Darkness" and "Apocalypse Now" are based around the idea.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 3, 2017 8:34:48 GMT
This neurochemical imbalance thing seemed almost like an afterthought to me, to explain why half of supposedly tested and accepted colonists turned into sociopathic savages.
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Post by tatsumaki on Apr 3, 2017 8:54:06 GMT
Welp in theory (pardon the limited knowledge) if you freeze a living organism it temporarily halts life or the need for necessities like oxygen, and food even down to a cellular level. That is the premise of cyrogenic sleep correct?
In truth is that as of today, we don't know if there are long term effects. Granted this is science fiction but you still can draw parallel lines. Its the same as 40-50 years ago when aerosol and plastic was discovered. Everyone hopped onto the bandwagon and used it without knowing the long term effects. Fast forward till today, now we suffer with an ozone hole and finally moved toward biodegradable plastic, but damage has already been done.
I believe scientists haven't fully understood how our brain works, and depriving it of oxygen for 600 years? Who is to say there will be absolutely no long term effects?
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 3, 2017 10:32:55 GMT
This neurochemical imbalance thing seemed almost like an afterthought to me, to explain why half of supposedly tested and accepted colonists turned into sociopathic savages. I think its to 'explain' why there's so many this quickly and how a NuOmega was so acceptable so soon, not that it explains that the bad stuff in general happened or that it got a lot involved in the mess. Its not like people were completely without their faculties, but a more than tiny number having more of an inclination towards chaos in a chaotic time, than otherwise? Well, it can be considered a factor to what we see. Of course I think Bioware would want to avoid being strongly compared to media with drug affected insane post apoc gangs, but that stuff just might be part of the total recipe. That tip over the ledge for enough people, adding to more of problem that already existed.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 3, 2017 12:48:54 GMT
In real life, descending to murdering each other, rioting, and robbing doesn't take that much.
Look at the aftermath of any natural disaster in an urban area.
The idea it required a neurochemical imbalance is ridiculous.
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Post by sdzald on Apr 3, 2017 21:41:29 GMT
I think the Exiles problem was merely they became murderous pirates to survive and learned they liked it. It's not exactly unprecedented in history for people to go savage. "Heart of Darkness" and "Apocalypse Now" are based around the idea. Most famous of all is Lord of the Flies.
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Post by sdzald on Apr 3, 2017 21:47:27 GMT
Welp in theory (pardon the limited knowledge) if you freeze a living organism it temporarily halts life or the need for necessities like oxygen, and food even down to a cellular level. That is the premise of cyrogenic sleep correct? ... You are correct. One note, that does kind of put a kink in the idea that the Krogan have partially overcome the Genophage while in stasis because of natural genetic adaption. Genetic adaption requires the body to be active at the cellular level, which it isn't while in stasis.
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