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Post by lavigne on Apr 6, 2017 14:42:20 GMT
Cora. Dull.
Looks like Liam is the new Vega.....shame, I like the character personally.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 6, 2017 14:42:33 GMT
Was I the only one that didn't find Liam's loyalty mission particularly funny? I had thoughts of punching him in the face and sidelining him permanently, throughout the mission. Each time he tried to justify it or make it feel better, I got more annoyed. The mission itself was technically well executed, at least.
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Post by avalon on Apr 6, 2017 14:44:09 GMT
and Kaiden is heaven over Ashley in ME3. NOOOOOO!!!!
You take that back! You take that back right now!! BLASPHEME!!!
Never! I don't know what it is but I really hated her in my last playthrough. And shot her. But she's not so bad in the first game. James is so boring I forgot he existed. Did he even have any lines?
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Post by sky on Apr 6, 2017 14:45:54 GMT
Was I the only one that didn't find Liam's loyalty mission particularly funny? Still better than Peebee's. Looks like there's some good ol fashioned bias going on here, which is fine since the whole topic is subjective anyways. Still, his mission was both more interesting and enjoyable than Peebees by a country mile.
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Post by Blast Processor on Apr 6, 2017 14:54:34 GMT
Was I the only one that didn't find Liam's loyalty mission particularly funny? Still better than Peebee's. Looks like there's some good ol fashioned bias going on here, which is fine since the whole topic is subjective anyways. Still, his mission was both more interesting and enjoyable than Peebees by a country mile. That's nice. I haven't played Peebee's loyalty mission tho, nor have I seen it getting a lot of praise.
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Post by helios969 on Apr 6, 2017 14:55:34 GMT
A bit surprised by the Liam hate...was sure PB would carry the day (my least). While I wouldn't say Liam is a favorite, I found him considerably more interesting than Jacob, Kaiden, or Ash from the original. For that matter I found all the companions to be more authentic and organic than MET companions. He had a fun loyalty mission too.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 6, 2017 14:57:24 GMT
Yep, seems to be a complete repeat of the MET....most of the guy players hate the human male, what a shock! As a straight female, Kaidan was my favorite character and favorite romance from the trilogy. I don't like Liam quite as much, but he's still a lovely companion (especially if you take Liam and Jaal everywhere together) and he also has a sweet romance. Peebee is easily the character I enjoy least. A perky Asari? To quote Kallo: "Kill. Me. Now." She just sits on the ship. Also, I find it delicious that those that hate Liam can't kill him off like they could with Kaidan. Suck it up, boys! Feel my Liara pain! I can understand people liking Kaiden, even if I personally found him a bit dull compared to the rest of the ME1 cast (And admittedly I found it hard to get into him because I kept thinking of Carth Onasi whenever he opened his mouth, and I'm not overly fond of Raphael Sbarge's delivery why does he always sound like he's whispering?) But Jacob "but the priiiiiize" Taylor? Plenty of reason to dislike him. Though I might have been more inclined to like him if the writers hadn't written every conversation with him to sound flirty, particularly with the shared Shepard animation. Male Shepard leaning against the table like that was awkward. Liam just comes across as emotionally immature, naive, kinda judgemental, prone to making bad decisions and he doesn't seem to actually learn from any of it. Peebee I give credit for actually maturing a little bit over the story, but Liam doesn't really demonstrate any such maturity.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 6, 2017 14:58:05 GMT
NOOOOOO!!!!
You take that back! You take that back right now!! BLASPHEME!!!
Never! I don't know what it is but I really hated her in my last playthrough. And shot her. But she's not so bad in the first game. James is so boring I forgot he existed. Did he even have any lines? My heart...it is breaking.
Ash was my girl, all through the OT. Never waivered. At least with my 'main, real playthrough'.
james though yeah...wanted to space that jersey shore reject out the nearest airlock.
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Post by sky on Apr 6, 2017 15:01:28 GMT
Still better than Peebee's. Looks like there's some good ol fashioned bias going on here, which is fine since the whole topic is subjective anyways. Still, his mission was both more interesting and enjoyable than Peebees by a country mile. That's nice. I haven't played Peebee's loyalty mission tho, nor have I seen it getting a lot of praise. Well I'm glad I didn't spoil it for you then. I only brought it up beacuse some people compared them in the spoilers forum, and they both start off with a bit of humor.
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Post by Fredward on Apr 6, 2017 15:03:06 GMT
The weeablue.
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Post by fialka on Apr 6, 2017 15:07:48 GMT
I chose Cora. I actually liked her well enough, but among the entire squad I definitely found her the least interesting. Both in her personal conversations and in her mission commentary. And I got pretty tired of hearing about Asari commandos. I get that they were this huge part of her life but I feel like it was too much of a focus and she was actually a better character when she talked about... anything else. My second choice actually would've been Vetra. Again, I do like her, but expected to love her. Somehow she didn't click for me as well as I'd hoped.
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Post by avalon on Apr 6, 2017 15:08:19 GMT
james though yeah...wanted to space that jersey shore reject out the nearest airlock.
Yup
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:09:12 GMT
james though yeah...wanted to space that jersey shore reject out the nearest airlock.
Yup funny that. i wanted to space Liara out the same airlock.
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Post by evermind on Apr 6, 2017 15:10:55 GMT
1 Cora - Can't stand her smiley face and her "we need the asari and their plan." 2 Liam - I don't understand what he's saying sometimes. But I like his friendship with Jaal. 3 Vetra - It's getting boring with her sister talk.
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Post by blanks on Apr 6, 2017 15:17:28 GMT
I like what they were going for with Liam as far as being an earnest character who is trying his best, but man his barks are annoying and talking to him is mostly just boring. He's not as grating as PeeBee and Cora though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:36:15 GMT
Peebee for sure. I do like everyone else though.
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Post by lastpawn on Apr 6, 2017 15:40:21 GMT
Yep, seems to be a complete repeat of the MET....most of the guy players hate the human male, what a shock! As a straight female, Kaidan was my favorite character and favorite romance from the trilogy. I don't like Liam quite as much, but he's still a lovely companion (especially if you take Liam and Jaal everywhere together) and he also has a sweet romance. Peebee is easily the character I enjoy least. A perky Asari? To quote Kallo: "Kill. Me. Now." She just sits on the ship. Also, I find it delicious that those that hate Liam can't kill him off like they could with Kaidan. Suck it up, boys! Feel my Liara pain! It's not a gender thing at all. I love Kaidan. He lives in 100% of my playthroughs. (It used to be about 80%, but then ME3 Ash happened.) My problem isn't that Liam is human, male or boring. He's actually funny, and reminds me of my nephew. My issue is that he's an idiot who endangers the entire Initiative with his antics. Dr. Lexi assured me, after the final mission, that Liam finally understood why his past actions were foolish. I would be happy to have a wiser Liam back aboard Tempest. Foolish Liam, though, is likely to be in a cell on the Nexus, at his present pace of bad decision-making. Are we the same person. I had the same Ash playthrough until ME3 happened. And Liam is likeable, in a way. He just REALLY shouldn't be in his position.
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Post by lastpawn on Apr 6, 2017 16:13:34 GMT
Was I the only one that didn't find Liam's loyalty mission particularly funny? I thought it was likeable, just had too much of a "quippy one-liner" thing from Guardians. I personally don't think that's a fitting tone for the ME universe.
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Post by degs29 on Apr 6, 2017 18:03:32 GMT
At first I was fine with Liam (yay, not a Jacob clone!), but over time he got more annoying. He just has to keep telling you how angry he is with.... ...the state of things and how slowly settlements are being set up. Several times I said out loud "Fuck off Liam, I'm doing the best I can here!" Even when he wasn't annoying, he was probably my least favourite. Cora and Jaal are just okay. I was worried Peebee was going to be like Sera from DA:I, who I disliked, but I actually found Peebee endearing. I also like Vetra and Drack. My main problem is that I don't love any of them. There's no Garrus/Mordin/Liara/Tali/Miranda (my favs from the trilogy) replacement. 1) Drack/Vetra/Peebee (I literally can't rank between them) 4) Jaal 5) Cora 6) Liam
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Post by azuremazey on Apr 6, 2017 18:05:32 GMT
I don't hate any of them, really. I was going to romance Liam my first playthrough initially, I liked his character design and the accent is cute. However, he did some things that made him Ser Friendzone. I know he means well, but still. I did enjoy his loyalty mission, though and he had some good moments. I also like his interactions with Jaal. That's a great way of describing "the Liam Experience", for me. I figured, "If I do a romance arc for Sara, he'll probably be the one." (Nice-looking human guy. Can't miss, right?) He just didn't work, though. He insisted on being oddly formal in calling her "Pathfinder" at all times. That felt like a small barrier. More importantly, I just couldn't take him seriously with his unrealistic view of the world and dangerous impulsivity. Liam is the kind of friend you want, very loving and loyal; but he doesn't seem to be finished growing up, yet. Yes, exactly. I didn't want to say spoilers haha, but basically as you said, his impulsive decisions had me "mad" at him. Or at least helped me decide not to romance him, and just be friends with him. I do hope there are sequels to Andromeda and he can grow and develop more.
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Post by Nightlife on Apr 6, 2017 18:22:25 GMT
Liam hands down - nothing to see here, move along.
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Post by demonicdivas on Apr 6, 2017 18:38:52 GMT
It's a toss-up between Liam and Drack but Liam wins for being so utterly bland and boring as well as showing bizarre behaviour like continually shooting that dead body at the start. I don't need an immature version of my younger brother around. And his accent did my head in, for a va from London it was extra forced and wooden acting.
Drack annoys me intensely with his patronising dialogue and also for giving my Ryder grief over one of her choices. Not your call dude. But he gets a pass because he actually got a reaction from me as opposed to Liam where I would rather watch paint dry than have him as a squadmate ever again. I'm not interested in a sweet romance either I want something that at least has an attempt at complexity.
All of them are so-so. No one has grabbed me and I find the non squad/Tempest NPCs far more interesting.
But as an aside, Kaidan I adore! Ash gets left behind every single time, no regrets.
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Post by lanoir3007 on Apr 6, 2017 18:49:45 GMT
Wish I could have thrown Liam out the airlock so many times. Realize that the crew aren't really military per se (except Cora), but this is a group of the most disrespectful, self-centered and in some cases useless NPCs ever. I am the Pathfinder, dammit, don't want to hear anything but "how high"!
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Post by vyndral on Apr 6, 2017 20:25:17 GMT
I voted Liam because he annoys me. Cora is second because of how annoying she is about the Commandos. But I don't think that is all Coras fault... BW tries to make a meaningful choice out of a character you barely ever see. So someone has to talk about them or it would be a no choice. Oh someone I never heard of abandoned thier pathfinder to die? Ok Space them. But they try to make this choice meaningful by overloading Cora with talk about this person and how great and important they are, So when the choice comes it isnt a no brainer.
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Post by xrayspex73 on Apr 6, 2017 22:32:44 GMT
I pretty much disliked Liam the entire game. Peebee is terribly annoying. The only good companions seem to be Vetra and Drack.
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