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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:24:42 GMT
When I see legit criticism I'll let you know. Clearly the only legit criticism is the criticism that you agree with... I noticed many posters who hate the game just got accounts here, so I suspect a lot of them are stirring things out of boredom. Yes, why would they go to an unofficial forum to talk about their issues with the game? Nobody does that! Clearly they're shitposting to be "cool". Clearly nothing good can be said because it's unheard of eh? Tsk tsk
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:27:49 GMT
Not everyone that has criticism to offer is "looking to stir things". Having a surge of interest and new users after a BW title was launched is very natural. Agreed, but there are some people who come in just thrash the game and the people who like it. Yeah there are legit critiques, then there are the ones that don't actual affect the game. As for bugs and other stuff, it's a new game and it will take some patches to fix, but this constant complaining over animations is just becoming the biggest ssdd ever. If I see anyone talking about anything besides face animations and romances, then I'll gladly listen. I respect other people's opinions, but there's a time when the complaints add nothing to help improve the game, and many want to see it fail. That puts me off big time.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 6:29:08 GMT
there are a ton of glitches in this game it's not even funny. If you insist this is fine, then you are just part of the problem with diminishing overall quality of alleged AAA titles. That being said, this is a continuation of a franchise in spirit. The facial animations being 'blown out of proportion', are they then? You try taking a conversation about the faith of mankind serious when you have a character that applied mascara with a baseball bat and then continues to express to most unnatural facial movements and eye positioning imaginable. Shitty animations impact gameplay and immersion. If you think these are minors issue, then that is that is your opinion. That doesn't make them small issues in general. If anything, you're just doing exactly what you just accused me off, 'projecting your own experience on someone else', which is what a review is to begin with ..... How do we proceed, then? I wouldn't be very convincing if I pretended to be bothered by something that doesn't actually bother me. The silly hyperbole you're posting here doesn't help.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:33:35 GMT
That's what the devs need. People to suggest improvements and talk about what's wrong and not bitch about it with no suggestions.
Anyways my sickness is not getting better, so I'm off the forum for a few days. Hopefully when I get back the big news tomorrow is worth it, and everyone can just be damn happy.
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Post by Fredward on Apr 4, 2017 6:45:57 GMT
My critiques would be: - space travel is pretty but tedious - way, way, waaay too many fetch/plant five of these all over the map quests (which isn't to say all the side quests suck because there ARE some interesting ones but they're the exception) - there are a lot of mook fights. Like. A lot. It's fun but wow couldn't they at least fuck off/become substantially less when the game says they've been beaten? - it's a meme at this point but the facial animations at times are unforgivable - constrained cc - second class citizen treatment of mm - Archon was a lame villain I thought the game got better as it progressed and liked the ending. Mostly. I thought it was a bit shit that it was emphasized that Meridian was a primarily human world. Every other AI species is stuck in space but sure lets we humans take the fancy technological marvel for ourselves but the AI is definitely all about kumbaya yeah?
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 7:26:51 GMT
Clearly the only legit criticism is the criticism that you agree with... Yes, why would they go to an unofficial forum to talk about their issues with the game? Nobody does that! Clearly they're shitposting to be "cool". Clearly nothing good can be said because it's unheard of eh? Tsk tsk I forget where I said that. Would you be able to point it out, or would you rather rebuild the straw man?
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Post by mugwump v1 on Apr 4, 2017 7:47:24 GMT
Ashe is perfectly entitled to voice her opinions on Andromeda, but I'm not about to give special consideration to the words of someone who dedicates so much of her time to promoting Bioware and their games. That said, I'm happy that she enjoyed her experience.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 8:04:12 GMT
That's what the devs need. People to suggest improvements and talk about what's wrong and not bitch about it with no suggestions. Anyways my sickness is not getting better, so I'm off the forum for a few days. Hopefully when I get back the big news tomorrow is worth it, and everyone can just be damn happy. Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions.
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Post by havox on Apr 4, 2017 9:10:26 GMT
"Mass Effect Inquisition, the same trash sidequests but now with added scanning because we're in SPAAAAACE", is EA's continued experimenting with how low effort can you go and still make a profit. Map design is lazy, there's 1 jungle and 4 deserts. Every kett camp looks the same with a tractor or two and a few crates and boxes scattered randomly around, every remnant dungeon looks the same. All the aliens are copy/pasted clones, most obvious with Asari and Angara but others too. Based on this thread it seems the bar is not set low enough yet we're still getting DLCs and sequels, it is depressing me.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 10:05:38 GMT
Ashe's 2 hours extended review stream from yesterday.
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Post by Warrick on Apr 4, 2017 11:06:44 GMT
I can't look at that picture with the asari clones. It's physically painful. Also why are their arms and legs the same length?
@teddie Sage Thanks for linking the extended review stream!
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 11:11:45 GMT
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/133290561 Ashe's 2 hours extended review stream from yesterday. Quoting & coding this in case you can't see the video directly on the forums.
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Post by Darkstarr11 on Apr 4, 2017 12:24:18 GMT
I liked the review. Pretty much sums up most of what I felt about it. A 'Beautiful Hot Mess'. Yes, that hits it on the head.
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Post by Addictress on Apr 4, 2017 13:26:02 GMT
Strangely, my favorite bits of Andromeda were unlocking the memories of Alec Ryder, which is odd given family-oriented stuff, and flashbacks are often cheesy and cheap imo in movies and games. I was just really obsessed with finding out whether the reaper threat was part of the founding of the Initiative and I was elated to discover it was....Except when Ryder listens to those final audio logs of his entire galaxy dying, he doesn't react or say anything. Um? He just listens to the various reporters crying out about the end of civilization....Like "huh OK" *shrug*
I wish Ryder could REACT...in some way to hearing about THE FUCKING END OF THE MILJY WAY? HELLO?
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 4, 2017 13:39:10 GMT
That kind of "Hi Guys!" joke is lazy to begin with. Anywhere. ...That's like saying that using color red is lazy. Preposterous, that's all I can say. You're talking from an entirely subjective perspective. I mean, you literally say that you imagine that krogans should all be tough and stoic... all that while the game creators quite demonstrably disagree with you. After all, the game intentionally points out that there's more to Krogans than "tough and stoic" (by presenting us a clumsy and romantic, but otherwise brilliant young krogan, among others which we can find on Elaaden) - especially to its younger generation. I mean heck, in many respects that's the whole arc for Drack, who himself feels expendable - a relic of time he himself thinks is a closed chapter for krogans, for valid reasons. Overall, I get why people may not like the new direction of the series, that consciously accentuates hope over despair and making room for new generation that can act a bit goofy and directionless at times. We can have a discussion about that whether someone likes certain characterization or direction for the chapter(s). ...But dismissing one of its elements 'because I think krogans shouldn't be that way' and therefore lazy? Doesn't strike me as compelling argument. It's not subjective. It's lore.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 4, 2017 13:40:58 GMT
The problem is people complain nowadays mostly to just complain, and to be cool since so many others are doing it. Oh they said this about that line? If I say it too I'll be in with the cool group! Oh they make fun of Sara's face or animations? If I do that, I'll get a ton of likes! I wanna hang out with the cool kids... My complaints make me very UNpopular here. I complain because my heart is breaking.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 13:42:35 GMT
...That's like saying that using color red is lazy. Preposterous, that's all I can say. You're talking from an entirely subjective perspective. I mean, you literally say that you imagine that krogans should all be tough and stoic... all that while the game creators quite demonstrably disagree with you. After all, the game intentionally points out that there's more to Krogans than "tough and stoic" (by presenting us a clumsy and romantic, but otherwise brilliant young krogan, among others which we can find on Elaaden) - especially to its younger generation. I mean heck, in many respects that's the whole arc for Drack, who himself feels expendable - a relic of time he himself thinks is a closed chapter for krogans, for valid reasons. Overall, I get why people may not like the new direction of the series, that consciously accentuates hope over despair and making room for new generation that can act a bit goofy and directionless at times. We can have a discussion about that whether someone likes certain characterization or direction for the chapter(s). ...But dismissing one of its elements 'because I think krogans shouldn't be that way' and therefore lazy? Doesn't strike me as compelling argument. It's not subjective. It's lore. Lore on how Krogans should act and talk? There are 2 billion Krogans in the Milky Way. We've seen what? 100 of them? So we can expect all of them to act the same then? Also remember that Krogan Mechanic on Tuchanka in Mass Effect 2? Well he certainly was different for being a Krogan, or the scientist that experimented on Pyjaks, Or the one that cited a love poem for the Asari on Ilum. It is almost like the Krogan are more than your stereotypical warrior race. What do i know, right?
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 4, 2017 13:50:10 GMT
It's not subjective. It's lore. Lore on how Krogans should act? There are 2 billion Krogans in the Milky Way. We've seen what? 100 of them? So we can expect all of them to act the same then? Also remember that Krogan Mechanic on Tuchanka in Mass Effect 2? Well he certainly was different for being a Krogan, or the scientist that experimented on Pyjaks. Or the one that cited love poetry for the Asari on Ilum. It is almost like the Krogan are more than your stereotypical warrior race. What do i know, right? Good point. I loved the Blue rose of Illium bit. It just seems forced in this game. That stupid pic of the Krogan with his head on Ryder's shoulder... Way too precious. And, as I've said, that falling through the door "Hi guys!" joke is straight out of High School Musical or Glee.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 13:51:51 GMT
That's what the devs need. People to suggest improvements and talk about what's wrong and not bitch about it with no suggestions. Anyways my sickness is not getting better, so I'm off the forum for a few days. Hopefully when I get back the big news tomorrow is worth it, and everyone can just be damn happy. Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. Didn't really affect the sales much it seems
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 13:54:32 GMT
Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. Didn't really affect the sales much it seems Yep! OT: Feeling much better today, so I'm not taking a break from the forum, but I am done here. I made my point (and others helped prove it), I vented at those I felt deserved it (feeling regretful but hey I've been sick for a month). I'm good now.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 4, 2017 13:56:37 GMT
She said she loved Dragon Age 2 in this review. That was enough to know I can't completely trust her judgment. Why? For people who preferred a linear style of gameplay instead of the empty open worlds with fetch tasks of Inquisition, DAII was fine. The only thing I hated about DAII was the copy paste environments.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 4, 2017 14:34:02 GMT
I agree with some things she said like the combat being fun (When it works), but disagree with others.
Improved quests...really?
Which ones are we talking about? Some of the loyalty missions, and finding ark missions were good. But the side quests and tasks were just tedious running back and forth watching long scenes in between. I'm just ignoring tasks altogether at this point.
The squad being the glue that holds the game together. Some of the squad are good characters with some personality, but the entire squad being the glue that holds the game together, I disagree with that.
People keep using this excuse of the MET characters being fleshed out over three games, but they weren't much after ME1. People loved Garrus and Tali after the first game, to the point where not only did they want them back in the second game, but they were mad that they weren't romanceable in the first game and wanted them so in the second.
People were upset that Liara wasn't in the second game in a prominent role, so she got her own DLC in ME2.
People liked these characters after the first game, it didn't take three games for them to become favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:35:34 GMT
"Mass Effect Inquisition, the same trash sidequests but now with added scanning because we're in SPAAAAACE", is EA's continued experimenting with how low effort can you go and still make a profit. Map design is lazy, there's 1 jungle and 4 deserts. Every kett camp looks the same with a tractor or two and a few crates and boxes scattered randomly around, every remnant dungeon looks the same. All the aliens are copy/pasted clones, most obvious with Asari and Angara but others too. Based on this thread it seems the bar is not set low enough yet we're still getting DLCs and sequels, it is depressing me. That's a lot of Dr. Lexis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:38:49 GMT
That's a lot of Dr. Lexis. Except for that white Asari in the background! Damn, first male Asari spotted.
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