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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 4, 2017 14:39:28 GMT
"Mass Effect Inquisition, the same trash sidequests but now with added scanning because we're in SPAAAAACE", is EA's continued experimenting with how low effort can you go and still make a profit. Map design is lazy, there's 1 jungle and 4 deserts. Every kett camp looks the same with a tractor or two and a few crates and boxes scattered randomly around, every remnant dungeon looks the same. All the aliens are copy/pasted clones, most obvious with Asari and Angara but others too. Based on this thread it seems the bar is not set low enough yet we're still getting DLCs and sequels, it is depressing me. That's a lot of Dr. Lexis. But wait... one's purple.. and anothers pink!
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Post by Iakus on Apr 4, 2017 14:40:18 GMT
"Mass Effect Inquisition, the same trash sidequests but now with added scanning because we're in SPAAAAACE", is EA's continued experimenting with how low effort can you go and still make a profit. Map design is lazy, there's 1 jungle and 4 deserts. Every kett camp looks the same with a tractor or two and a few crates and boxes scattered randomly around, every remnant dungeon looks the same. All the aliens are copy/pasted clones, most obvious with Asari and Angara but others too. Based on this thread it seems the bar is not set low enough yet we're still getting DLCs and sequels, it is depressing me. That's a lot of Dr. Lexis. Parthenogenesis at work
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Post by Addictress on Apr 4, 2017 14:41:45 GMT
Andromeda' side quests are NOT the same trash sidequests as Inquisition. When you free Angaran captives from Kett strongholds, they run around, fight alongside you, and do things - unlike the prisoners in Emprise Du Lion and the red templars who literally just disappear when you open the locks.
The side quest where you scan for beacons placed around the galaxy... I thought it would be just another text-based adventure a la Inquisition but instead it turned into a rather huge questline involving a pregnant woman running away from Addison, involving special vidcon conversations, unique assets and sets like a downed shuttle, etc. Unlike in Inquisition where you literally just read text on a note under the table, or text on the war table, lol. Or the same copy-pasted "box of fruit and a sack" placed around the region 5 times.
Andromeda put more effort into the side quests and we can't ignore that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:49:06 GMT
That's what the devs need. People to suggest improvements and talk about what's wrong and not bitch about it with no suggestions. Anyways my sickness is not getting better, so I'm off the forum for a few days. Hopefully when I get back the big news tomorrow is worth it, and everyone can just be damn happy. Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. Bitching does have an effect on the devs... but it's not a positive one. It causes individuals on the developer's staff to become disheartened and quit... and the company has more difficulty hiring the "best talent" because those people would prefer to work for companies not taking such levels of heat for their past works. It's counterproductive.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 4, 2017 14:51:56 GMT
That's a lot of Dr. Lexis. Except for that white Asari in the background! Damn, first male Asari spotted. It took me a good 5 minutes to notices Ryder lol. I was sitting here thinking "but they all have boobs"
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Post by Addictress on Apr 4, 2017 14:52:32 GMT
Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. Bitching does have an effect on the devs... but it's not a positive one. It causes individuals on the developer's staff to become disheartened and quit... and the company has more difficulty hiring the "best talent" because those people would prefer to work for companies not taking such levels of heat for their past works. It's counterproductive. That's why leadership needs to take the blow, Publicly, to release lower-level devs from any wrongdoing. If the top director of the game says "it's all my fault" and a new director is chosen in the future, then you don't curse the entire department for prospective devs.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 4, 2017 15:02:56 GMT
That's what the devs need. People to suggest improvements and talk about what's wrong and not bitch about it with no suggestions. Anyways my sickness is not getting better, so I'm off the forum for a few days. Hopefully when I get back the big news tomorrow is worth it, and everyone can just be damn happy. Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. There is a difference between feedback and just being an asshole. If all you saying is "My face is tired lol", OMG Peebee and Cora look like dudes. Bioware hate straight white dudes!", "This game is boring", "This game sucks", "BIOWARE = SJWS" then you not really helping but trying to be one of the cool kids in school. A lot of people are basically saying "like me I guys I hate this thing too". Giving feedback on how to improve is perfectly fine but bitching helps no one and only tell EA and Bioware they need to stop making ME games.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 15:08:41 GMT
And, as I've said, that falling through the door "Hi guys!" joke is straight out of High School Musical or Glee. So it's the fall that's bugging you , not the dialogue per se? *shrugs* It read like a Buffy scene to me, and I like that just fine. (Do you even watch Glee?)
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 4, 2017 17:12:13 GMT
Ashe is perfectly entitled to voice her opinions on Andromeda, but I'm not about to give special consideration to the words of someone who dedicates so much of her time to promoting Bioware and their games. That said, I'm happy that she enjoyed her experience. True.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 17:17:19 GMT
Ashe is perfectly entitled to voice her opinions on Andromeda, but I'm not about to give special consideration to the words of someone who dedicates so much of her time to promoting Bioware and their games. That said, I'm happy that she enjoyed her experience. But she stated strengths and weaknesses of the game it was pretty well balanced compared to the sensationalist stuff that people kept posting
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 18:43:19 GMT
Ashe is perfectly entitled to voice her opinions on Andromeda, but I'm not about to give special consideration to the words of someone who dedicates so much of her time to promoting Bioware and their games. That said, I'm happy that she enjoyed her experience. But she stated strengths and weaknesses of the game it was pretty well balanced compared to the sensationalist stuff that people kept posting Lol you keep downplaying legit criticisms as sensationalist. It's at 71% for legit reasons and 50+ reviewers arent colluding to trash the game, it's legit mediocre.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 18:45:58 GMT
Bitching is the only thing that will have ANY effect on the devs. Politely offering up suggestions while you line their pockets with money does absolutely nothing. Bitching about the game, making the animation/writing memes go viral, and negatively impacting sales - THAT is what gets their attention. They only listen to the $$$. If it wasn't for all of the ridicule, there is NO CHANCE we'd be getting a mea culpa tomorrow - probably in the form of a promised patch and some free DLC. Gotta drive those sales! And guaranteed there will be free DLC for multiplayer to encourage microtransactions. Bitching does have an effect on the devs... but it's not a positive one. It causes individuals on the developer's staff to become disheartened and quit... and the company has more difficulty hiring the "best talent" because those people would prefer to work for companies not taking such levels of heat for their past works. It's counterproductive. It's super productive - if they can't handle online criticisms, then gtfo they shouldn't be working for BioWare in the first place. Snowflakes everywhere.
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Post by SilentK on Apr 4, 2017 18:51:37 GMT
"Boring, tedious intergalactic travel" It saddens me that a lot of people are actually complaining about that. I found it pretty cool. I wonder if people who hated it felt the need to explore and scan everything all at once and maybe that's why this feature bothered them so much? All I know is they're probably getting rid of that for the next game and I think that will be a shame. Think that Mass Effect Andromeda is wonderful! I am just having a blast playing. I love my Ryder and the crew is awesome so at least I hit the lottery this time It really suits my style of playing. I don't pick up all the quests at once, or travel to all the places at once. I can spend a few evenings on one planet, take two quests and do them and perhaps get another one or call it a night. Then I go back to the Nexus and see what is happening, plot and plan for the following evening. I really enjoy looking at space when I travel. It makes everything feel connected. I have never been a player that depends on the speediest result for being happy. Getting to the end, handing in the quest or something like that. I am happily living/gaming in the moment. Hope that they will keep adding things like this, if there is an optional way to skip it for those that wish to then hopefully all can be happy.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 18:55:22 GMT
But she stated strengths and weaknesses of the game it was pretty well balanced compared to the sensationalist stuff that people kept posting Lol you keep downplaying legit criticisms as sensationalist. It's at 71% for legit reasons and 50+ reviewers arent colluding to trash the game, it's legit mediocre. According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 18:59:05 GMT
Lol you keep downplaying legit criticisms as sensationalist. It's at 71% for legit reasons and 50+ reviewers arent colluding to trash the game, it's legit mediocre. According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think I played the game - it's awful, then checked reviews, they agreed. Do you even play the game? You post on here 24/7. I'd think you'd be engrossed in your second playthrough of this engrossing masterpiece.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 19:03:07 GMT
In the name of all 'Suikoden™ fans' I apologize for this member's poor attitude and arrogance in all the posts he makes about this game. Just because he doesn't like ME: Andromeda does that means he's allowed to piss off the actual members of this community who loves it.
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Post by Kabraxal on Apr 4, 2017 19:03:41 GMT
Lol you keep downplaying legit criticisms as sensationalist. It's at 71% for legit reasons and 50+ reviewers arent colluding to trash the game, it's legit mediocre. According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think The troll isn't worth the trouble. Ignore him.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 19:04:37 GMT
According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think The troll isn't worth the trouble. Ignore him. Yeah, could mods do something about him? He's been pestering all the positive threads from this section, from what I've seen.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 19:06:59 GMT
The troll isn't worth the trouble. Ignore him. Yeah, could mods do something about him? He's been pestering all the positive threads from this section, from what I've seen. Careful, he'll accuse us of being snowflakes who can't handle truth of ME: A awfulness.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 19:12:39 GMT
According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think The troll isn't worth the trouble. Ignore him. You know, you're going to run into people with dissenting opinions from your own when you move out of your parent's house. It's going to be difficult for you.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 19:12:52 GMT
Yeah, could mods do something about him? He's been pestering all the positive threads from this section, from what I've seen. Careful, he'll accuse us of being snowflakes who can't handle truth of ME: A awfulness. All I know is that he's clearly in no position to insult other members simply because he disagrees with them.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 4, 2017 19:19:56 GMT
According to the "professional" reviewers seriously stop using them as some validation of what you think I played the game - it's awful, then checked reviews, they agreed. Do you even play the game? You post on here 24/7. I'd think you'd be engrossed in your second playthrough of this engrossing masterpiece. Ouch... such argumentation is a double-edged sword. I mean... if the game is so awful, what are you doing wasting your time on forum or specifically targeting threads full of people who have enjoyed the game, instead of using your time on something more productive? I mean, at least people who enjoy it enough come here to discuss a variety of topics related to it. That's sort of what this place is for - many people want to take their time to talk about their experiences or share their views before they play the game again... in case this isn't obvious
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 4, 2017 19:20:07 GMT
And, as I've said, that falling through the door "Hi guys!" joke is straight out of High School Musical or Glee. So it's the fall that's bugging you , not the dialogue per se? *shrugs* It read like a Buffy scene to me, and I like that just fine. (Do you even watch Glee?) What I've seen of the dialogue so far was unimpressive. Trying too hard. I've watched Glee with my daughter. I'm a grown man, so it's not my thing. I'm thinking Bioware is not for me anymore either. If women want their own studio, that's totally cool with me. Seriously. I'm just very, very sad to lose my Mass Effect. My cup runneth over with tears. Drink deep.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 4, 2017 19:21:05 GMT
Too bad we don't have access to groups, right? Would be fun to keep out undesired members.
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Post by Lorn on Apr 4, 2017 19:22:55 GMT
The troll isn't worth the trouble. Ignore him. Yeah, could mods do something about him? He's been pestering all the positive threads from this section, from what I've seen. And what justification would the mods have for going after him? He isn't breaking any rules, unless disliking Andromeda became against the rules.
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