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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 3, 2017 23:57:27 GMT
This pistol, this ULTRA RARE PISTOL, is the most garbage weapon I have ever used! And there are alot of garbage weapons in this game. How is it even an Ultra rare? There are common weapons that are better than this weapon. Hell! My melee is stronger than this weapon. smfh Bioware
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Post by iTz JoNeSy on Apr 4, 2017 0:06:02 GMT
99% of the ultra rares are bad. There's only one I use and that's the alien ball firing shotgun thing.
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Post by rolenka on Apr 4, 2017 0:16:53 GMT
Really? With the Carnifex downgraded to uncommon and the Paladin missing, I was hoping it would be a good heavy-hitting, slow-firing pistol.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 4, 2017 0:30:18 GMT
Really? With the Carnifex downgraded to uncommon and the Paladin missing, I was hoping it would be a good heavy-hitting, slow-firing pistol. So was I. I was expecting it to basically be a reskinned Executioner. Boy was I wrong.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 4, 2017 0:41:12 GMT
99% of the ultra rares are bad. There's only one I use and that's the alien ball firing shotgun thing. Hurricane and Piranha would like a word with you. On topic.. the Ushior is the hottest of garbage. I can't even wrap my head around what Bioware was thinking. How could a single shot pistol have damage so low as to not even take half a basic trooper's health with a headshot. So dumb. Beyond dumb.
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Post by Rafahil on Apr 4, 2017 1:50:41 GMT
It's great on single player though, but then again nearly everything is great on single player. Most weapons regardless of rarity are bad in multiplayer. We are being forced to play melee only as it stands and it's getting too boring now. I like to think that they knew this and deliberately gave that melee equipment such a high boost so we can at least survive some until they balance everything out.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 4, 2017 2:07:13 GMT
This is currently my highest ultra rare at rank 4, I still don't have a piranha or hurricane. As you can imagine I'm pretty triggered. This gun is so stupid. if they buffed the damage by 100% I still don't think people would use it tbh. Needs about a 100% damage boost and a 100% faster reload, then I'd maybe consider it. Right now it's like a widow with 50% less damage, who would use that? Answer is no one. I mean I don't even like the widow or even the isharay because without reload cancelling the reload is just unbearable on those guns.
No idea what they were thinking with this, it's bascially a 100% troll weapon. Other ultra rares like valkyrie, eagle and PAW (such a joke compared to the prothean particle rifle)are really bad but this one takes the cake.
Every ultra rare other than hurricane, piranha, valiant and black widow need huge buffs. I hear many people aren't even that happy with the piranha allthough I imagine it will be better once they fix smart choke.
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Post by mgc1971 on Apr 4, 2017 5:59:37 GMT
The fact that even with a 100% buff many weapons would still unusable makes me really sad.The person who balanced MP should be fired
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Post by mrvolio on Apr 4, 2017 7:42:23 GMT
I unlocked it the other night. Boy was I disappointed. Billed as a high damage single shot monster. Pop a Chosen in the head with my one shot. 40% health shaven off.
No wonder the Angarans are in such a bad state of affairs.
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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 4, 2017 8:14:54 GMT
I have it at VII and it is still trash, possibly the worst UR there is and worse than many uncommon pistols. Solution? Buff the damage by 150%.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 8:35:40 GMT
The Ushior is fine if you take it for what it is: an accurate side arm that deals a lot of damage in one shot. The Ushior isn't meant to be a main weapon at all, obviously. MEAMP is clearly designed around the idea that you should have a side weapon anyway: now reloading most weapons cost more than just switching between your two weapons. The Ushior is the best weapon to have to inflict large amount of damage in one shot to finish off mobs, short to long range. Expecting the Widow or even the Executionner isn't reasonable.
I wouldn't disagree with a little buff on weight though.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 4, 2017 8:47:00 GMT
The Ushior is fine if you take it for what it is: an accurate side arm that deals a lot of damage in one shot. The Ushior isn't meant to be a main weapon at all, obviously. MEAMP is clearly designed around the idea that you should have a side weapon anyway: now reloading most weapons cost more than just switching between your two weapons. The Ushior is the best weapon to have to inflict large amount of damage in one shot to finish off mobs, short to long range. Expecting the Widow or even the Executionner isn't reasonable. I wouldn't disagree with a little buff on weight though. Dude, the gun is fucking garbage and the damage it deals isn't viable enough. Using this gun is like stabbing a bear with a cheap dollar store knife. Same could be said with alot of guns in this game.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Apr 4, 2017 8:48:56 GMT
The Ushior is fine if you take it for what it is: an accurate side arm that deals a lot of damage in one shot. The Ushior isn't meant to be a main weapon at all, obviously. MEAMP is clearly designed around the idea that you should have a side weapon anyway: now reloading most weapons cost more than just switching between your two weapons. The Ushior is the best weapon to have to inflict large amount of damage in one shot to finish off mobs, short to long range. Expecting the Widow or even the Executionner isn't reasonable. I wouldn't disagree with a little buff on weight though. Who carries two guns? Everyone's fist is like a Krogan's forehead. Dude, the gun is fucking garbage and the damage it deals isn't viable enough. Using this gun is like stabbing a bear with a cheap dollar store knife. Same could be said with alot of guns in this game. Stop using the Avenger I then
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Post by vanguard4 on Apr 4, 2017 8:53:14 GMT
The Ushior is fine if you take it for what it is: an accurate side arm that deals a lot of damage in one shot. The Ushior isn't meant to be a main weapon at all, obviously. MEAMP is clearly designed around the idea that you should have a side weapon anyway: now reloading most weapons cost more than just switching between your two weapons. The Ushior is the best weapon to have to inflict large amount of damage in one shot to finish off mobs, short to long range. Expecting the Widow or even the Executionner isn't reasonable. I wouldn't disagree with a little buff on weight though. Just no. In the same vein: Care to explain the existance of the Talon? Which is a Sidearm as well, according to you, and better than any Shotgun out there. Also: Why are uncommon Pistols better than Ultrarares? Your theory doesn´t hold merit, not even a little.
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 4, 2017 9:01:33 GMT
I think some people here mix Mass effect with Battlefield. Or never played ME3MP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 9:28:05 GMT
The Ushior is fine if you take it for what it is: an accurate side arm that deals a lot of damage in one shot. The Ushior isn't meant to be a main weapon at all, obviously. MEAMP is clearly designed around the idea that you should have a side weapon anyway: now reloading most weapons cost more than just switching between your two weapons. The Ushior is the best weapon to have to inflict large amount of damage in one shot to finish off mobs, short to long range. Expecting the Widow or even the Executionner isn't reasonable. I wouldn't disagree with a little buff on weight though. Just no. In the same vein: Care to explain the existance of the Talon? Which is a Sidearm as well, according to you, and better than any Shotgun out there. Also: Why are uncommon Pistols better than Ultrarares? Your theory doesn´t hold merit, not even a little. You're off topic. Where did I say the Talon is a sidearm? I was speaking of the Ushior, which isn't meant to be used like a Widow (long range), an Equalizer (takes time to finish off enemies), a Talon (short range), a Falcon (unreliable), the Scorpion (deals more damage but I don't trust the delay and it can't be moded with a Receiver)... etc. The Ushior has its "niche". It simply doesn't make sense as a main weapon (well, I guess it could be the main weapon of an Angara Avenger though). And I agree on the fact that most shotguns are irrelevant right now. As for the "fact" that uncommon pistols are better than URs pistols: I've yet to see the point of the Rozerad (I guess it's meant for big/slow targets but it's not very efficient when you can use the Hurricane), but I'd certainly take the Hurricane and the Eagle over the Carnifex and the Phalanx.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Apr 4, 2017 10:05:10 GMT
I think BW and Talon are pretty dope UR's, but I didn't get a Vanquisher so I can't compare.
Talon blows all other shotguns out of the water tough. Perfectly fine as main weapon, just as it was in ME3. I mean it's better than most (all? I don't have any URs) shotguns at lvl I.
Besides that, the Kett UR shotgun is broken strong in SP compared to other ones, like claymore level damage with 2 shots in the clip, that one could also be worth noting.
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 4, 2017 10:21:45 GMT
I tried out both the Ushior and Rozerad yesterday, and both were disappointing. The latter seemed like the Helios version of the Geth SMG, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing...
The Sidewinder is decent for a sidearm, but that's no UR.
I really believe UR's should be great, even at level I. I know ME3 had it's share of less amazing ones (like the Wraith, but even that gun did SOME damage, or the N7 Eagle and Crusader and the Collector AR).
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 4, 2017 12:11:13 GMT
I tried out both the Ushior and Rozerad yesterday, and both were disappointing. The latter seemed like the Helios version of the Geth SMG, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing... The Sidewinder is decent for a sidearm, but that's no UR. I really believe UR's should be great, even at level I. I know ME3 had it's share of less amazing ones (like the Wraith, but even that gun did SOME damage, or the N7 Eagle and Crusader and the Collector AR). Woah Woah Woah, don't lump the wraith in with those guns.
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 4, 2017 12:41:53 GMT
I tried out both the Ushior and Rozerad yesterday, and both were disappointing. The latter seemed like the Helios version of the Geth SMG, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing... The Sidewinder is decent for a sidearm, but that's no UR. I really believe UR's should be great, even at level I. I know ME3 had it's share of less amazing ones (like the Wraith, but even that gun did SOME damage, or the N7 Eagle and Crusader and the Collector AR). Woah Woah Woah, don't lump the wraith in with those guns. Sorry my mistake! The Wraith is actually quite good compared to an early ME3-Eagle and perfectly Silver-viable, unlike a certain number of guns in Andromeda. It was just a poor-man's Claymore despite the higher rarity, and became a bit redundant when the then-overpowered Piranha was released in the Earth-DLC.
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Post by vanguard4 on Apr 4, 2017 12:46:58 GMT
Just no. In the same vein: Care to explain the existance of the Talon? Which is a Sidearm as well, according to you, and better than any Shotgun out there. Also: Why are uncommon Pistols better than Ultrarares? Your theory doesn´t hold merit, not even a little. You're off topic. Where did I say the Talon is a sidearm? I was speaking of the Ushior, which isn't meant to be used like a Widow (long range), an Equalizer (takes time to finish off enemies), a Talon (short range), a Falcon (unreliable), the Scorpion (deals more damage but I don't trust the delay and it can't be moded with a Receiver)... etc. The Ushior has its "niche". It simply doesn't make sense as a main weapon (well, I guess it could be the main weapon of an Angara Avenger though). And I agree on the fact that most shotguns are irrelevant right now. As for the "fact" that uncommon pistols are better than URs pistols: I've yet to see the point of the Rozerad (I guess it's meant for big/slow targets but it's not very efficient when you can use the Hurricane), but I'd certainly take the Hurricane and the Eagle over the Carnifex and the Phalanx. First, apologies on my side, if I sounded aggressive. I just wanted to express that i clearly disagree with your sidearm theory, for all the following reasons. The Talon can kill mooks on a soldier with Supercharge or what-the-name-of-the-power-that-makes-guns-go-pewpew across half the map, making it a perfectly viable main weapon. Since Ushior and Talon are, for whatever dumb reason, both pistols, the Classification of pistols as sidearms doesn´t work. So, basically, within the category of pistols you have good weapons ( the talon ) and sidearms ( the Ushior ) - how does that make sense? Every weapon in this game is balanced by weight, ammo capacity, damage, fire rate, etc. - the Ushior is just inferior in every regard, but there is no distinction between Main weapon pistols and sidearm pistols. People expect, from a weapon that is Ultrarare and behaves like a Widow, that it does similiar damage to a Widow. This expectation is not wrong - and if the design intention had been otherwise, it is clearly very badly communicated to players. Most people agree, from what is my limited understanding, that there is currently no balance between all the weapons and your point about bringing a sidearm is the new design intention: Power based classes are clearly not going to do that and kits that don´t care about cooldown, will bring two heavy weapons anyway.
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Post by vanguard4 on Apr 4, 2017 12:48:04 GMT
Sorry my mistake! The Wraith is actually quite good compared to an early ME3-Eagle and perfectly Silver-viable, The Wraith is a Platinum-worthy weapon for ME3. Easily one of the best shotguns for Vanguards. Sorry for offtopic. I need to get back to work.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 4, 2017 12:57:34 GMT
99% of the ultra rares are bad. There's only one I use and that's the alien ball firing shotgun thing. Hurricane and Piranha would like a word with you. On topic.. the Ushior is the hottest of garbage. I can't even wrap my head around what Bioware was thinking. How could a single shot pistol have damage so low as to not even take half a basic trooper's health with a headshot. So dumb. Beyond dumb. Maybe the devs had to unlock the ultrarares during their extensive testing.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 4, 2017 13:02:16 GMT
I tried out both the Ushior and Rozerad yesterday, and both were disappointing. The latter seemed like the Helios version of the Geth SMG, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing... The Sidewinder is decent for a sidearm, but that's no UR. I really believe UR's should be great, even at level I. I know ME3 had it's share of less amazing ones (like the Wraith, but even that gun did SOME damage, or the N7 Eagle and Crusader and the Collector AR). Rozerad is a good weapon. It's a boss killer. The inaccuracy of the weapon and the ramp up are both obstacles but with the proper kit that weapon eats krogans, fiends, hydras, and destroyers. Basically anything with a large hit box that takes a while to kill. With turbocharge the rozerad eats large targets. That said idk that it's better than the hurricane but it's super light and does good damage.
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 4, 2017 13:19:17 GMT
I used it on the campaign and it sucks, I can only imagine how bad it is in MP. It's supposed to be an Executioner of sorts I take it? but man, even the Executioner was trash in ME3, we called it the Almost Executioner, because it wouldn't one shot anything.
But seriously, what is with single shot pistols? leave that to snipers. Who the hell wants to spend more time reloading than doing anything else? especially when the gun doesn't even kill in one shot.
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