Is SAM made of Reaper or Geth code?

Geth code maybe, but definitly not Reaper code. You find out that

Actually, if I remember correctly, humans are the ones who discovered Sovereign first. It's from the first book, Revelation. It's been a long time, but I believe it was heavily implied that Saren killed them for researching it in secret before his initial indoctrination. Ryder could've been involved. This was before anyone knew what a Reaper was.

Or SAM might just be human code, because Alec Ryder is just awesome like that

Omg, it makes sense, though. Reaper code being the most advanced we know of, and we see the difference the incorporation of that type of code did for EDI.

And Alec may not have even known it was Reaper code, depending on where he got some his "supplies", that type of thing could have sneaked in there. Or even if he did know it was this alien code, he might not have understood all that implied-being Reaper code; or he did not care because he was pretty desperate.

Wasn't there a dropped plot point in ME3 where they wanted to make Shep part Reaper, but I think it got too unwieldy for them?

Idk, my money would go to Reaper code modification, and Alec either not knowing or feeling desperate.

Ah, geez. I never even thought about this. Now it might be that my Ryder has Reaper code in their head--in a very deep way.

If so, I guess Starkid got what it wanted afterall...600 years later, but eh that's nothing to it.

I continuously, still, get the sense that MEA had a version that had Cerberus behind the trip to Andromeda and characters we meet.

Then had to scuttle all that and rework/write/organize a whole lot of things.

If true, this isn't necessarily a bad thing for them to do this - but I personally do hope that if there's grander long-term ambitions intended for yearssss with 'Cerberus' (or whatever related things), that a creative process isn't stopped because people hate seeing Cerberus happen at all.


I know you were talking about Reapers but whatever. Similar diff.

I have to disagree with the whole Reaper theory here. By the time Alec learns about the Reapers, SAM looks basically finished. He may have looked into the Geth to learn from the Quarians mistakes, seeing as how his wasn't aiming to create an AI as a separate entity, but instead an AI has part of a whole. Basically if SAM is not connected to a host, he shouldn't be able to learn/adapt, or even evolve his thought processes.

The Initiative did use a Geth satellite/telescope to help research andromeda and find the golden worlds, but besides that, I do not believe they borrowed or adapted any other technology from them, or the Reapers. The benefactor was terrified of the Reaper threat and was planning to jump ship even before Shepard confirmed his/her/their/it's suspicions about the magnitude of the threat.

If anything, I suspect that the Quarian Ark has been invaded by sleeper reaper agents, and now that they are awake, are probably causing havoc or overrunning the ship with husks. Remember that they did leave in '86, the year of the reaper invasion, while the nexus and the other arks left in '85.

Interesting theories overall though.

Hmm, interesting thought. You could be on to something there.

I thought that somewhere in the codex it mentioned the use of an actual Geth satellite (not repurposed dreadnought parts), but I'd have to go hunting over all the entries in the codex to confirm this, which I can't do at the moment.

I think there is something wrong with my SAM because he keeps telling me that i should check my AVP while i already did that and it's starting to annoy me.

And i know this has nothing to do with your OP sorry for that zipzap haha.

Their goal was to find a solution to the problem. Looking at life in another galaxy might be a part of that.