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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 6:46:16 GMT
Imagine the list of balance changes! Weapon X: buffed by 100% Weapon X: buffed by 90% Weapon X: buffed by 85% Weapon X: buffed by 80% Weapon X: buffed by 72% Weapon X: buffed by 69% .... .... power X: buffed by 88% ..... ..... combo detonations: sorry - now they scale with power evolution ranks and with difficulty Vanquisher: nerfed by.... % ..... What I am trying to say is: we are not talking about 5-20% buffs/debuffs here and there. If Bioware is honest with themselves, they can put a "0" behind these numbers. So by making these balance changes, they basically confess how incompetent the persons in charge were in the first place. So let's hope that they have solid working contracts and small egos!! edit: solid working contracts only if they will NOT be in charge of Andromeda 2 (or any other game in future) of course ^^
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Post by TormDK on Apr 4, 2017 6:50:34 GMT
We don't need that kind of weapon buffs currently though.
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 6:52:49 GMT
We don't need that kind of weapon buffs currently though. for some weapons, yes. or utility buffs. a few others can be toned down a bit then - in order to make them match their rarity. For example the Raptor. Look at the other thread about the Ushior. People say that they might not even use it when it gets a 100% damage buff. I haven't tried the Ushior yet though. But I have tried the Valkyrie and other UR's....
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 4, 2017 7:08:35 GMT
People this incompetent choose to silence the voice of truth so they can live in their own perfect little bubbles and shit rainbows and eat cupcakes. The problem is the world doesn't work that way and here they are failing hard as fuck. They look like idiots to anyone who is paying attention...even if they aren't a fan of the series at all. EAware is as bad as Ubishit or any other garbage dev in the industry at this point. Many people wanted to say DA: I was a fluke....now we know. ME:A did offer the best memes from a game in a LONG time. Some that will be laughed at for years to come. It won't change anything, but now they see what putting their fingers in their ears get them. Lets just strap in and see how far down they can do while they stay in their little bubbles. Go tell them they did a great job and the game is perfect and their testing was on point...140 characters at a time.
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Post by TormDK on Apr 4, 2017 7:20:58 GMT
We don't need that kind of weapon buffs currently though. for some weapons, yes. or utility buffs. a few others can be toned down a bit then - in order to make them match their rarity. For example the Raptor. Look at the other thread about the Ushior. People say that they might not even use it when it gets a 100% damage buff. I haven't tried the Ushior yet though. But I have tried the Valkyrie and other UR's.... I'm not sure I'd agree that weapon quality should reflect in it's rarity - because then the people in the "bottom" of the player base currently would likely never get further, where as today the best weapons are Uncommon (Raptor) and Rare (Vanquisher) which gives more people a higher chance of encountering them in their time with the game. I can appriciate why you'd want to roflstomp stuff with an UR though, especially as time goes on and we'll see people with maxed manifests AND bonus stats (Which we have to continue to remember that they too are a part of the balance equation here) - however, PowerCreep is not the right answer at this time as I see it. *EDIT* For the record, I'm currently done with all Common and Uncommon cards, and about 60% done with Rares (Have all rare characters at X, weapons around rank 6 and mods around rank 4 - most of my URs are rank 1 as I haven't really purchased enough Premium packs to make a dent there yet)
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Apr 4, 2017 7:32:26 GMT
Wait, I thought the immensely satisfying and heartfully felt ending of ME3 was sufficient evidence that Biovar leadership loves their customers. Besides, it's not like they're owned by Electronic Arts or anything
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 7:42:46 GMT
for some weapons, yes. or utility buffs. a few others can be toned down a bit then - in order to make them match their rarity. For example the Raptor. Look at the other thread about the Ushior. People say that they might not even use it when it gets a 100% damage buff. I haven't tried the Ushior yet though. But I have tried the Valkyrie and other UR's.... I'm not sure I'd agree that weapon quality should reflect in it's rarity - because then the people in the "bottom" of the player base currently would likely never get further, where as today the best weapons are Uncommon (Raptor) and Rare (Vanquisher) which gives more people a higher chance of encountering them in their time with the game. I (partially) agree. I have loved that in ME3. That you could still wreck with some of the more common weapons. Like the Arc Pistol, Piranha, Claymore etc. But you'll have to agree that the Ultra Rares generally are too weak atm. Also, not everyone was able to use the Arc Pistol to its full potential. And for using the Claymore you had to reload cancel (of course) and pull off clean headshots to make sure the heads really popped If not - you were done for.
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Post by TormDK on Apr 4, 2017 7:49:52 GMT
I'm not sure I'd agree that weapon quality should reflect in it's rarity - because then the people in the "bottom" of the player base currently would likely never get further, where as today the best weapons are Uncommon (Raptor) and Rare (Vanquisher) which gives more people a higher chance of encountering them in their time with the game. I (partially) agree. I have loved that in ME3. That you could still wreck with some of the more common weapons. Like the Arc Pistol, Piranha, Claymore etc. But you'll have to agree that the Ultra Rares generally are too weak atm. Also, not everyone was able to use the Arc Pistol to its full potential. And for using the Claymore you had to reload cancel (of course) and pull off clean headshots to make sure the heads really popped If not - you were done for. Well, out of the UR's I have, the Hurricane does it's job quite well at rank 1 - the Black Widow seems fairly strong at rank 1 as well (I consider Vanquisher bugged, due to it's higher headshot modifier). I'm more a DAKKA DAKKA kind of guy, so those are the only two I tested. I did run with the Valkyrie in singleplayer on Insanity playthrough, where it did it's just job well enough on my Soldier Ryder - but I haven't gotten it in MP yet so I can't comment on how it performs there.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 4, 2017 8:00:19 GMT
We don't need that kind of weapon buffs currently though. Yeah we do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 8:04:09 GMT
Hm.
Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight.
As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is.
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 8:04:27 GMT
I (partially) agree. I have loved that in ME3. That you could still wreck with some of the more common weapons. Like the Arc Pistol, Piranha, Claymore etc. But you'll have to agree that the Ultra Rares generally are too weak atm. Also, not everyone was able to use the Arc Pistol to its full potential. And for using the Claymore you had to reload cancel (of course) and pull off clean headshots to make sure the heads really popped If not - you were done for. Well, out of the UR's I have, the Hurricane does it's job quite well at rank 1 - the Black Widow seems fairly strong at rank 1 as well (I consider Vanquisher bugged, due to it's higher headshot modifier). I'm more a DAKKA DAKKA kind of guy, so those are the only two I tested. I did run with the Valkyrie in singleplayer on Insanity playthrough, where it did it's just job well enough on my Soldier Ryder - but I haven't gotten it in MP yet so I can't comment on how it performs there. the two you mentioned seem to be ok, yes. So you were lucky. But imagine you get one of the many other UR's and then realize it literally is just a water pistol. not cool. on a side note, I mentioned the Piranha because it was not an UR in ME3.
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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 4, 2017 8:23:45 GMT
Hm. Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight. As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is. I have to disagree. I legitimately believe the Ushior needs a 150% damage buff. It is unusable in its current state.
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Post by TormDK on Apr 4, 2017 8:27:13 GMT
Hm. Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight. As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is. I have to disagree. I legitimately believe the Ushior needs a 150% damage buff. It is unusable in its current state. Why would you expect a sidearm to oneshot gold mobs?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 8:38:40 GMT
Hm. Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight. As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is. I have to disagree. I legitimately believe the Ushior needs a 150% damage buff. It is unusable in its current state. (I've just wrote something about it in the Ushior thread)
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 4, 2017 8:45:16 GMT
I have to disagree. I legitimately believe the Ushior needs a 150% damage buff. It is unusable in its current state. Why would you expect a sidearm to oneshot gold mobs? Executioner says hi. I think Ultra rare weapons need massive buff,either damage,RoF,reload or recoil.I have only Rozerad(which does pathetic damage) and Valkyrie,which has terrible recoil. But,I have nothing against Uncommon weapons being solid choice-Mattock and Phalanx were more than fine for their rarity in ME3.
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 4, 2017 9:44:47 GMT
Hm. Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight. As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is. Tell that to the executioner pistol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 10:11:58 GMT
If you've started using the Ushior thinking it's the "Executioner of MEA because it has 1 shot clip", the problem isn't the gun. There is nothing in the stats and description of the Ushior that says it's meant to be a one-shot-one-kill pistol, while the Executioner was clearly based on this idea.
Balance-wise, priorities are elsewhere in my opinion. Shotguns and ARs, especially.
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 4, 2017 10:37:25 GMT
If you've started using the Ushior thinking it's the "Executioner of MEA because it has 1 shot clip", the problem isn't the gun. There is nothing in the stats and description of the Ushior that says it's meant to be a one-shot-one-kill pistol, while the Executioner was clearly based on this idea. Balance-wise, priorities are elsewhere in my opinion. Shotguns and ARs, especially. I agree especially on shotguns but seriously one shot in the clip what is it's intended use? Especially with its reload and its higher damage in comparison to other pistols.
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Post by Ajax on Apr 4, 2017 11:12:24 GMT
I'm not sure I'd agree that weapon quality should reflect in it's rarity - because then the people in the "bottom" of the player base currently would likely never get further But rarity has to mean something no? There must be a reason why some weps are common-uncommon-rare-ultrarare. Otherwise why even have those cathegories. Right now it feels as if they assigned rarity labels to weapons completely randomly. As for some players never maxing out ultra-rare weapons - isn't that kindda expected? When you play just casually you will have much leaner collection than a hardcore player grinding several hours a day.
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 11:18:48 GMT
Hm. Weapons or powers don't need "double damage"... and some work can be done on RoF or weight. As for the Ushior, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be your main weapon. I'm fine with what it is. I have to disagree. I legitimately believe the Ushior needs a 150% damage buff. It is unusable in its current state. ok. but imagine they actually did that. wouldn't it be like a confession of their incompetence? That's what I was trying to point out with this thread.
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Post by TormDK on Apr 4, 2017 11:22:00 GMT
I'm not sure I'd agree that weapon quality should reflect in it's rarity - because then the people in the "bottom" of the player base currently would likely never get further But rarity has to mean something no? There must be a reason why some weps are common-uncommon-rare-ultrarare. Otherwise why even have those cathegories. Right now it feels as if they assigned rarity labels to weapons completely randomly. As for some players never maxing out ultra-rare weapons - isn't that kindda expected? When you play just casually you will have much leaner collection than a hardcore player grinding several hours a day. Sure, but as noted I'm very much against the fact that URs by default should be better than lower rarity drops. I would support, and expect, that the SCALING of URs are better than less rare weapons, so that in the end they might end up being better - but right out of the gate there should not be a huge difference in power. (I still consider the Vanquisher's weak spot multiplier bugged, for the record )
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 4, 2017 11:36:47 GMT
But rarity has to mean something no? There must be a reason why some weps are common-uncommon-rare-ultrarare. Otherwise why even have those cathegories. Right now it feels as if they assigned rarity labels to weapons completely randomly. As for some players never maxing out ultra-rare weapons - isn't that kindda expected? When you play just casually you will have much leaner collection than a hardcore player grinding several hours a day. Sure, but as noted I'm very much against the fact that URs by default should be better than lower rarity drops. I would support, and expect, that the SCALING of URs are better than less rare weapons, so that in the end they might end up being better - but right out of the gate there should not be a huge difference in power. (I still consider the Vanquisher's weak spot multiplier bugged, for the record ) if you were right, then why is the Vanquisher still so good off-host? Because off-host most headshots aren't registered (which alone is already a scandal).
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