The Little Things That Matter (spoilers for side quest)

Dont like Peebee either but i am too much of a goody two shoes. plus didn't want to risk affecting my desired ending, even though it most likely didn't matter.

I think the only game that i wasn't a goody two shoes was Bound By Flame.

I don't care about her. I've shot her in my playthroughs. She wanted to kill me. So I return the favor

I don't like her either, I only spared her because I was romancing Peebee and murdering someone she wants to save didn't seem like a romantic thing to do.

A lot of things in this mission were nonsensical, and I don't know if changing Kennedy's personality would have fixed all the issues. For starters, if there were enough supplies stolen by those emergency satellites to support Kennedy (and others, implied by her dialogue) for nine months of a child's gestation, why weren't those resources being used by the Nexus? Addison's explanation of how the ZK satellites work made no sense whatsoever--though to be fair, I don't listen terribly closely whenever Addison talks anyway

I maybe, MAYBE would have been ok with bailing her out if I could just have Ryder express frustration. Or anger. Or anything other than "yay babies." Because "yay babies" is far from a universal sentiment.

Gah! I am sooooooo glad there are other people that were pissed about this quest! I have been holding that one in, because frankly, if you say anything about folks and their kids (and/or dog-owners) nowadays, you are usually branded as an insensitive jerk.

Not enough resources to support the population? Then don't breed. Easy, yes?

Try using that logic, you are met with 1) the emotional "but we wub dem widdle babies!", 2) the faux-science "but it is our evolutionary imperative!", 3)the religious "God created the earth for me and my kiddies", and my favorite, 4) the delusional "it will all work out somehow".

Ahem...I am talking about the game, of course. Not about the shit-show that is the runaway population of our own blue marble.

How the hell did these people get selected for the Initiative? Were there no background checks? No psychological profiles? Folks I know that do research in Antarctica (ie, 6 months to a year in solitude, dark, and cold) have to go through some major psychological evaluations before they are allowed to go. Yet we get whacked out rebels and selfish baby-makers and all manner of nut-jobs on a trip to another galaxy? No way...

Plus I recall hearing that Kalinda does help out in the final battle for Meridian if you spare her. I don't remember seeing her, because in my playthrough I had a LOT of characters helping out, but still.

Yep, there's a few side quests for it on Elleden where Lexi has us scan some scavengers and she figures out that the cryo process leaves a chance for people to lose all impulse control and go crazy. She figures out a medicine that helps keep the brain at a normal level as people wake up from cryo, so that there will be less outlaws and scavengers as they wake people out of their pods.

But anyway, this quest: I don't remember really hating it when I was playing through it, but I do agree in hindsight it would have probably worked better if it was a "not-so-happy accident" that Kennedy couldn't bear to get rid of.

When the quest was initiated I thought that the goal to stop the theft and return the scientist with valuable data (so the conflict would be "human rights vs contract/corporate security"). The way it played out was quite odd (humans can be irrational and irresponsible, but this was beyond just "dumb"). The quest resolution is rather unsatisfying, yet uncomfortably rational - the Initiative cannot allow Kennedy to walk freely (i.e. exile is not an option) and there's no Roekaar or kett to solve it alternatively. Thus, she and the baby are secured on the Nexus, while Addison is trying to save face.


Agreed.

This quest and contagion are the worst in the game. I liked the point that people are selfish and will use their kids to justify all sorts of things, but I am angry people in Andromeda can get away with this shit without the game giving you any recourse. In contagion they missed the mark when they made it seem like it was a difficult choice to let the woman die, but also pissed we did not get to punish the nephew. Similarly here, there were no good choices!

I am not even sure how to roleplay this. On the my 2nd playthrough I said to myself "I can't let these thefts continue", but after talking to Dr. Kennedy I decided I was not going to dedicate any resources to someone who did not want my help, so I did not go to the Voeld navpoint. Let the Roekaar and Kett do what they want, I just wanted to stop the outpost thefts (which is how the other factions found out about her).

*Slight tangent warning*
I do like the general theme that sadly only pop's up every now and then about how to deal with the exiles. I enjoyed the distinction between the actual instigators and people who got caught up in the purges. Some of those decisions were not easy, and I wish they were a larger portion of the game. I was generally positive towards allowing bystanders who got swept up with the exiles to return to the fold, but hostile towards people who suddenly found out a life of piracy wasn't for them. I screwed over Advent, and told the supply thieves on Eos to F themselves, but I won't lie they were decisions I spent quite a bit of time thinking about in all 3 play throughs. The Dr. Kennedey mission is NO WHERE near as interesting and yet it received more resources and content than the others.

*edit* I know a lot of people thought Renegade Shep was a jerk, but I tell you a lot of times he/she said exactly what was needed to vent in some situations.

Hm...you are late to the party - I already commented on this weeks ago (made a Topic on here, I believe it was called: "So we just let criminals walk now?")

Still, I'll read your comments (maybe a mod can merge these two topics? )

greetings LAX
ps: Yeah, I'd want her punished (and the baby taken...a child growing up with that shitty a mother, who'd go so far as to endanger other people to get pregnant (and help/encourage others to do the same) can only become a shitty human being, that's why the child needs to be taken away from her and she needs to be put in prison (and if that's impossible, then slap an explosive collar on her and make her do unpaid community service...well her and her compatriots!))

Indeed it is not (I am one of that group of people that society kind of doesn't take seriously, unless we have tons of cash or are really genius level scientists, because we don't want kids (so I kind of wouldn't be the ideal person to send to Andromeda probably because I'd be a dud when it comes to populating anything...unless you count me going shopping to fill the fridge? ^^)), so "Yay babies" is the farthest thing from my mind (that's why I actually hate this quest even more - I mean allowing Kennedy to get away with criminal activities is bad enough, but making the reason for that "because of the children" is beyond fucked up from my POV! There's enough shitty parents in RL who I think should have their kids taken, so this quest justifying crimes because of babies? STOP THAT SHIT ASAP! (It works in RL sadly, but it shouldn't anymore this far in the future! Gender issues should be worked out by then and putting mothers on pedestals needlessly should be a thing of the past that people fucking laugh about!) Enough kids are raised to become shitty adults by shitty parents...IMHO that's something the A.I. should prohibit at any cost, make it a real damned fresh start...you have an opportunity to create something of a paradise here, a new society damned...but what do you do? Recreate the fucking Milkyway's infighting etc.!)...especially since crying kids annoy the shit out of me (selfish? maybe!) and because I know what it takes to raise kids, and I am not only talking about the money parents "invest" in a kid, I am talking about society as a whole! Kids need:

- kindergarten
- school (primary and secondary schools to be exact)
- universities (or an opportunity to learn a trade)
- jobs
- food (here we are: That shitty woman STOLE food and equipment during a desperate situation, IMHO she endangered a ton of people (more if you take into account that she helped others - she was just the first of those criminals to give birth!) and should be in jail for a very long time!)
- they need attention (and somebody to look after them, especially if there is no kindergartens set up yet, and a parent who's busy doing that can't do much else (so they aren't productive anymore, which counts heavily if you are low on food and can't wake more people up to pick up the slack!)...so an extra mouth to feed without any return on the investment for decades!)
- ... (I am sure I've forgotten some things)

Fact is nothing of that is up and running, the A.I. is behind schedule (but even if it were NOT, I doubt there would be any schools etc. set up - hell, the news tell us that there's fight about a common curriculum for the schools that the Asari (who have time after all...long lifespans!) want to sit out, they can afford to do so after all!)

So yeah, that child's crying didn't melt my heart (in fact I was annoyed even more! I'd have had a security team waiting for her on the Nexus (concealed so that she can't see them and try to run!), so that as soon as she leaves that shuttle she's trapped (can't flee!)!)

greetings LAX

With religion they at least offer that option within their last few games. Such as in DA:I or MEA. You can be outspoken over not believing in both games. I think it was already an option with Ashley on the original Normandy.

But yes, the baby talk is on the same lines. When Gil first came up with it, I choose "left field" in hopes that it shuts him up. But no, that one is on rails. Regardless of the options you choose.