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Post by Bergmaniac on Apr 14, 2017 8:34:35 GMT
This has bugged me for a long time. There is no reason for the other races to fear the Krogan. How tough they are in ground combat is completely irrelevant when it comes to threatening the rest of the galaxy. When their ships are blown off the sky they will die as any other species. The other races are way more advanced in terms of technology, battleships and economic resources. The Krogan are hopelessly behind scientifically and economically. They fear the potential of the krogan, not as they are, but as they could be. The Rebellions were a disaster for the galaxy, and they happened because the krogan could not stop breeding. Give them an inch, they'll take a mile at everyone else's expense: the krogan's predicament is unfortunate, but not unearned, and is in the long run in the best interest of every other species. The Krogan rebellions make no sense either. The Krogan's fast breeding and being tough in a ground fight are nowhere near enough to make them so powerful as to threaten the whole galaxy against all other races, especially the Salarians and the Asari who were way more advanced technologically and economically. The important thing in such a war is how many ships a species can build and how advanced they are, not how fast they can breed ground soldiers.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Apr 16, 2017 15:52:11 GMT
No, they definitely are smaller in Andromeda. I thought it was funny, one time Jaal said to Drack "You are... much larger than the others" or something like that, when really Drack is like the same height as Ryder lol. Lol, I remember waking up Grunt in ME2. When he gets out of the tank, he towers you, even making Shepard look up. But outside of that cutscene, he is a bit shorter than Shepard.
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Post by Vortex13 on Apr 17, 2017 13:22:30 GMT
The Rachni, despite being the more 'alien' of the two are far more amiable to cohabitation with the rest of the galaxy and more willing to work together to achieve compromise. Wrex and the Krogan (by and large) on the other hand, operate more on the: "Do what I want or I'll kill you" mentality. Which of those two would you be more willing to give a second chance to? As someone who never kills Wrex, always cures the genophage and always spares the queen, I still don't necessarily agree with everything you say. For one, the very fact that Rachni who are separated from their queens will go insane and attack is reason enough to be distrustful. Even if you believe the queen you might still think they're too easily weaponized. Just thinking of the sheer volume of rachni in the Noveria facility is enough to give a person nightmares. Second, Wrex and the Rachni Queen weren't exactly coming from the same place. The queen couldn't have killed Shepard if she had wanted to regardless of Shepard's decision. She probably understood that. Hence, her only choice was to reason with Shepard and hope for the best. Failing that, try to escape. Wrex, on the other hand, is out, free and weaponized. Had the Rachni Queen been similarly out and free she might have done the same thing. From the in-game perspective, we just don't know. What we do know is that Rachni threatened to destroy all beings in Council space. Whether or not the krogan might have done the same, they didn't and proved incapable of doing so (since they failed). Now, from playing ME3, I have learned that the Protheans were at fault for any kind of aggressive Rachni. That doesn't necessarily help their case (because that means they're violent and aggressive) but does allow for a greater level of compassion. Here's Wrex's viewpoint: he's watched the krogan continuously decline, watched all the in-fighting that has occurred as a result of hopeless krogan making terrible decisions, he's seen his own father turn on him...he attributes all of this behavior to the genophage. As we learn in ME2 and ME3, Wrex knows what the krogan have been and believes they can be better. That's why he gets so aggressive about it. He'll also put his money where he mouth is in ME2 and ME3. He takes over his clan, puts it in the forefront, and works hard to change krogan behavior. With Eve in the mix in ME3, there's a bright future for the krogan. Had Wrex really intended to shoot Shepard in ME1 he would simply have done it. Instead, he reacted poorly but backed down if reasoned with because he understood that a cure in the hands of Saren would just lead to the enslavement and eventual death of the krogan. Yes Wrex and the queen are coming from a different set of circumstances, but I am far more willing to listen to a measured, logical discussion on the merits of a species' worthiness, over someone yelling and waving a gun in my face. Different situations or not, by and large the Krogan aren't really doing anything to dispute their stereotype, like the Rachni queen does. The Rachni Queen tries to show how her species are not mindless monsters by speaking to Shepard and following through on her promise of support (writers' fiat in ME 3 notwithstanding); no questions asked, and no restitutions demanded. Wrex on the other hand tries to show that his species is more than just violent brutes by threatening people that disagree with him and then by effectively holding the fate of the rest of the galaxy hostage until a Genophage cure is deployed; despite his previous promise of immediate support when the Reapers arrive.
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