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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 4, 2017 23:31:57 GMT
Partially, but for me it really comes down to which characters make the most sense to be on their way at that point. Peebee and Drack are the likeliest candidates to leave, so that would leave us wide open for 2 fresh faces and perhaps an extra for good measure. I just hope we don't get the dirty dozen setup again. I feel it was a bit bloated overall. I'd probably stick with 7 myself.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 4, 2017 23:32:30 GMT
I guess I'm indifferent. Whilst I have no major gripes about any of them (OK, Cora's kind of dull....), I still measure squadmates against what we've had before. That being said, I'd probably prefer they keep the cast of characters in order to further develop them. Maybe add a couple more to the mix to freshen things up. Feel sorry for Liam though, he seems to get a rough ride from fans but I actually like the character. I like Liam too, and I kinda love his loyalty mission.
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Post by tanaka808 on Apr 4, 2017 23:34:18 GMT
I definitely expect we'll have some old faces swapped out for new ones. Personally I don't really see much more growth for Cora even though she's probably the one most likely to stick around due to her dedication to the Initiative and the Pathfinder. Maybe some of those theories of her relation to TIM could create more intrigue around her.
I could see Liam settling down on an outpost and Drack either retiring or kicking the bucket but he's probably the most popular squadmate.
However my team firmly rallied around Ryder during the epilogue of my play through so I'd have a hard time seeing a reason for any of them to leave unless there is an event/time gap that forces them to part ways like in the OT.
Maybe they could make our sibling a squadmate in a sequel.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 4, 2017 23:39:54 GMT
Peebee has some potential, but she's just a slightly less irritating Sera 2.0. Funny how two people can have such opposite reactions. I found Sera to be profoundly irritating and yet PeeBee is by far my favorite companion and didn't really resemble Sera at all (I was actually worried about that though pre-release)
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 4, 2017 23:40:22 GMT
I'd keep Vetra. The rest can clear off.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 4, 2017 23:44:24 GMT
The crew barely develops in this game because they almost had no reason to be there in the first place besides Cora and Liam. All they had to go on was their loyalty missions where Ryder tagged along and then a few good ones like whoever you romance, Jaal's subplot and I thought Cora's scene on Eos is very good.
Honestly, I want the same squad but I want them to be reintroduced so that even by Andromeda 2's premise you'll get a sense that they have more at stake. Cora has dealt with her commando past and being second in command to Alec's son or daughter, not she'll face some sort of hurdle within the plotline of the next game that ties into what kind of person she is and the same for everyone else.
Also since Ryder isn't likely to be yet another "hero who became a legend" like Shepard let them have the revelation in the final game that their love interest is pregnant with their child or something. Make it happen lol.
I see someone say PeeBee should have no reason to stay. Maybe, but it almost feels as if she moved in with me because I romanced her because she had nowhere to stay and now lives with me sort of, but at the same time, she's very excited about the Meridian and I could see her getting some Liara-esque subplot in 2 where she's somewhere else to find leads on stuff in her research, but I still hope she's there a lot and I hope Neil Pollner doesn't leave BW or anything because PeeBee is one of those you can't just hand off to another writer without losing part of her spark.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 4, 2017 23:54:10 GMT
Funny how two people can have such opposite reactions. I found Sera to be profoundly irritating and yet PeeBee is by far my favorite companion and didn't really resemble Sera at all (I was actually worried about that though pre-release) I could point out some similarities: Both are trying very hard to show that they are NOT typical to their species/race, both are rather childish, both have commitment issues, both act first and think later - not considering consequences.
It's the same "quirky" character archetype in a different setting.
Personally, I'd take the Asari pathfinder over her in a heartbeat. (hell I'd take all of the pathfinders we met over some of the squadmates... It even makes sense considering that their ships were lost and only one Tempest remains)
You're certainly not wrong on some of those traits, though trying hard to show they are not typical of their species is like half of the Normandy on any given day...same could be said about acting first instead of thinking. I guess it just came down to presentation for me. I wouldn't have said Peebee was childish so much as she was more just unflittered and bubbly (at least thats how I saw it) Sera on the other hand had quite a few outbursts and tantrums that definitely felt more child-like.
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Post by Vinland on Apr 4, 2017 23:55:35 GMT
I'd definitely take the secondary Asari pathfinder over PeeBee. I didn't really like PeeBee and even post game I haven't finished her Loyalty Mission. Overall I would prefer they just add a couple of new squadmates and keep the old roster to round out the potential team kits/skills (right now we have too many tanks in my opinion) I also wouldn't be upset to see Jaal go, even though I did like him and the Angara.
Maybe a Quarian and a Salarian; not interested in bringing Reyes on board or another human in general.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 23:55:40 GMT
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Post by Furisco on Apr 5, 2017 0:26:40 GMT
Keep Vetra and Drack and add a Quarian.
The rest is meh.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 5, 2017 0:28:14 GMT
Peebee can go die in a terrible accident with lava or some Shepard style choking in space.
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Post by Nightlife on Apr 5, 2017 0:29:15 GMT
Only liked PeeBee (was annoying at first then she got decent) and Drack. Most boring were Cora and Liam. Jaal/Vetrat ok.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 5, 2017 0:33:21 GMT
get rid of the asari and have a salarian replace her I can see drack replaced with a younger krogan Liam. Not sure. Maybe stick him doing strike team stuff on the nexus and have him replace with another male human Vetra, Cora and Jaal I see staying
I would add a cook. One that knows how to make calamari gumbo like the greatest chef in the universe, Rupert Gardner, did for my Shepard Have a character walk in circles like the guy did on the Normandy in ME3
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Post by jastall on Apr 5, 2017 0:33:44 GMT
Keep Cora, Jaal and Vetra for sure. Peebee has loads of potential plot relevance too, but perhaps not as a squadmate?
Drack is awesome, but I'm not certain how long Bioware can keep up his ''too old for this shit'' antics before it gets, well, old.
Liam is not a bad character, but I feel that he's expendable. Maybe not so much because of his romance, however.
I say keep 4 of the old bunch, add 4 new ones.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 0:34:54 GMT
Their primary focus should be to get away from recreating the trilogy under a new guise. The biggest disappointment with Andromeda is how its plot completely lifts ME1's story but without context, so there are a new "god" species that they even refer to as "gods" as if the writers couldn't keep the subtext out of the written text (Reapers are gods but only as a theme, not something they often spell out) and every single main mission of which there are 5 or so, is mimicing the development of ME1's plot but with no development. You just jump from one part to another and nothing has any payoff because it's literally built on nothing. You meet the Archon who suddenly speaks english, but then afterwards his brethren don't so did the translator work or is the narrative playing tricks without making it clear? We have nothing but a gullible reason for why 100k people ventured to Andromeda and a better reason packed within that only the leadership knew about, so the premise of the game is super implausible. There's a new Indoctrination or putting people on spikes that transforms them called "exaltation", there are new "Prothean technology" called The Remnant and the Scourge which is the new Reapers and the actual Protheans are the Javaarl who mysteriously vanished. Then we get the not-virmire mission where we have to choose between The Krogan or the Salarians, but the choice has no buildup within the mission scenario until it just happens to become a choice... again, no context, then we get the Vigil mission where we find out that the stasis pods contain real proth-- I mean the Angara were created here by the AI of their forerunner race. Then it turns out The Archon and his Get-- I mean his Kett attacked the Cita-- I mean the Nexus, BUT THIS HAS NO BUILDUP -- IT JUST HAPPENS AT RANDOM, Then we get the final mission where we do the not-Ilos run and then beat the Archon and activate the Space Magic Machine that grants us the thing we have always wanted since we arrived. Isn't it wonderful?
Bear in mind this plot-concept which Schlerf wrote and then left was approved by Casey who then left. God, and Mac did not think this should be completely rewritten apparently. Maybe that's just hard to do a year into planning or something. Who knows how the development timeline for this looks but in case you're wondering the game aside from randomly generated planets is 100% the same as was described in the 2014 leak, with the same "Khet" which they redubbed the "Kett" (game files still say "Khet") and the same Remnant and the same free pass on the creative staff for an outside writer coming in after doing Halo 4 and just blatantly plagiarizes ME1 and then he leaves (or maybe they did fire him?).
But to reiterate the point: You've created an absolutely underwhelming start to a new branch-series of Mass Effect, BioWare Montreal. You need to figure out how to move away from this retrodden ground and make Andromeda its own concept. Start with the Angara, those were well developed through Jaal's scenes and explroring Aya a little bit but it's still not much. Focus on the colonization effort and building new ground in a foreign galaxy. Focus on, not how the character meander around watching movies and making bad acting for fun, but how they actually fit in to a new world and react to their new situations with some actual developments which then all show sides of the same core themes that tie back into the main plot. Do have an entertaining action-plot in there somewhere too, but keep it focused on being a story about building a new society and forming alliances and I'm particularly unhappy you had a chance to make this game about the experience of First Contact but you pretty much blew it.
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Post by timebean on Apr 5, 2017 0:40:09 GMT
Keepers? I would say only Drack, cause he prolly won't live much longer and there would be possibility of a Krogan funeral (which would be cool to see) and much angst ![:crying:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/DXYvYKTKTfCBEhHGFvDL.png) New? A new angaran?- Why not give us one of Jaal's younger siblings? A female? He could be off doin other stuff and show up intermittently. A NEW ALIEN. Massani! I want a tough, bad boy, human to get freaky with (or, at least to cause little trouble on my ship)!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 0:41:59 GMT
Also, they need to redesign the Angara a la the Qunari of DA2 for Andromeda 2. I just can't accept those Knuckles The Echidna designs. I just can't.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 5, 2017 0:45:58 GMT
If they make a sequel with Ryder, I'd prefer a mix with maybe a couple not being featured. Cora might have been promoted. Gil might have decided to go offship to help raise a kid. Jaal might have had resistance stuff to take care of. Hopefully, though the majority of the cast would stay, just with a few new faces (like a male gay alien squadmate, for example).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 1:06:56 GMT
All new squadmates, to be honest.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 5, 2017 1:13:26 GMT
All squadmates and crew members but Liam. Liam can disappear.
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Post by hector535 on Apr 5, 2017 1:25:06 GMT
They already said that they planned different sequels ala Dragon Age, the story will continue but with different characters, the andromeda squad already did their part.
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Post by Gilsa on Apr 5, 2017 1:29:54 GMT
It's all or nothing. Bring all the romances back or none of them. Just because you don't personally like who I romanced does not mean my gameplay should suffer for your gain.
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 5, 2017 1:31:17 GMT
I think the squad is fine with the exception of Liam, who really should be booted out in MEA2.
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Post by deebo305 on Apr 5, 2017 1:50:02 GMT
Feel sorry for Liam though, he seems to get a rough ride from fans but I actually like the character. Liam suffers from being the starting human male squadmate as such most Bioware fans hate him on principle and find him "boring" I personally think hes fun and a real standout among the main cast and frankly way better than Reyes Still pissed a couldn't kill him, yet Sloane can die SMH
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Post by cespar on Apr 5, 2017 1:56:49 GMT
I would like to keep the whole crew. Make it their story as a team.
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