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Post by dark8sage on Apr 5, 2017 11:43:34 GMT
I love my squad. They can take Liam away, and Vetra can stop moping about her sister and go back to her shady smuggler persona.
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Post by qwib on Apr 5, 2017 11:45:04 GMT
Some should stay, some should go. ME3 was a good mix. Drack has to stay!
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 5, 2017 14:25:31 GMT
If memory serves, the idea behind the Tempest and the current team was to make it feel similar to Serenity from Firefly. If so, I think they should keep at least the majority of the crew. And heck, we might actually see some decent character development for them if they do. It's actually really simple. They should gauge the fans and see who the fans liked. FOr the most part people seemed to like Drack and Vetra. Keep the ones that people liked, and get rid of the ones that people didnt.
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Post by bfler on Apr 5, 2017 14:36:04 GMT
Drack and the two pilots can stay. The others are not particularly interesting.
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Post by bizantura on Apr 5, 2017 14:47:11 GMT
Drack and Vetra are the only teammates I would want to see back. The "teammates" are the weakest part of this game. Bland nobodies without any personality to get excited about. This is my biggest gripe and disappointment with MAE. No drive to get invested in party members which was a great appeal in previous MET, all gone, very sad!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 15:58:48 GMT
Drack and Vetra are the only teammates I would want to see back. The "teammates" are the weakest part of this game. Bland nobodies without any personality to get excited about. This is my biggest gripe and disappointment with MAE. No drive to get invested in party members which was a great appeal in previous MET, all gone, very sad!!! One of my favorite things about ME original trilogy was how you got to watch some of the crew evolve from 1 to 3. Wrex and Garrus for me were the most interesting. They really grew with you and evolved while keeping some core of who they were. Right now - PB, Liam and Cora need a huge personality adjustment from my perspective. Nothing about them really compels me to bother with them. I am currently wondering how blowing them off entirely will impact stuff. Cora - I have to do her quest and since it's kind of key I don't mind it much. Liam - I will likely skip all but the movie if I feel so inclined. PB? Will it matter at all? Too many steps in a some of them anyway. Then again, when I think back to ME1, Garrus was not really all that great back then but he had a solid base. Maybe like Jaal. Wrex had a very solid base. I mean looking back in ME1, they were probably on par with what we are given here but ME1 was the very first so for us it was like oh cool aliens. By ME3 it was so different because we watched them grow over the trilogy. Those bonds were forged and what made them most fascinating was how they evolved over the trilogy I think. So I think a bit of it is that we are at a starting point and we really only have what we have here to work with. Then again, ME2 had some solidly interesting characters. They really got that right. But I am inclined to think that what they want to do is start with not too much so they have a lot more room to develop them rather than start with very solid strong characters who they might struggle with how to evolve them from there, especially if they might change them or develop them in ways people don't like. That I think is why they are a bit bland.
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Post by Felya87 on Apr 5, 2017 16:04:52 GMT
I still haven't played the game, but to me the actual team should not be forgotten, and new companions added: in my opinion, two new companions in the team would be great (that oh so desired male Quarian...ya know... ) I think companions should get new development and stories, and not discarded.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 16:38:32 GMT
Too soon. We need to see how the characters fare in the DLC's and if the writers are able to redeem them, take them to the next level, etc. now that they've had plenty of time to get to know them and to develop their chemistry (e.g., movie night). If they still drag in the DLC's, then replace them all.
Otherwise, I'd request:
-female Salarian (STG, different than Mordin, more akin to the Salarian Pathfinder, if not the actual Pathfinder) -female Drell (a Le Femme Nikita/Point of No Return assassin, different than Thane) -male Quarian (voiced by "Jamie Lannister") -Hanar like Blasto (but not cheesy, just a renegade, and they pulled off a Remnant VI with multiple dangling limbs, after all) -Jaal would probably need to return to represent the Angara -AI or a new alien race -male Yahg -male Krogan (Drack?)
Bio needs to stop playing it safe. Star Wars Episode VII is safely done and the series perhaps afloat. Let's move forward.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 5, 2017 16:46:27 GMT
Feel sorry for Liam though, he seems to get a rough ride from fans but I actually like the character. Liam suffers from being the starting human male squadmate as such most Bioware fans hate him on principle and find him "boring" I personally think hes fun and a real standout among the main cast and frankly way better than Reyes Still pissed a couldn't kill him, yet Sloane can die SMH I don't think this is what Liam "suffers from" at all. I think most find that he suffers from a sever case of immaturity. His emotional, irrational decisions endanger the crew and mission. He endangers far more than that, both directly and indirectly. Were he Alliance, he'd be in the brig for his stupid stunt. I think he's a nice guy. He makes me chuckle, because he reminds me a lot of my nephew when he was 7yo. My nephew is now in his 20s, like Liam. Only one of them seems to have grown up, over the years. I think this immaturity, and our inability to really kick his ass over it, is what annoys the people who have gripes about him. If he grows up, I wouldn't mind him returning. If not, no way. I'd never let a fool remain on my ship, so Liam strains verisimilitude, for me.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 16:57:11 GMT
My personal opinion is that I'd want Drack and Peebee to stay on team. But that's just my preference. That being said I think Drack is actually the least likely to remain a squad member despite being the best. I think he's got the built in, "I'm getting too old for this shit" excuse to back out of active duty on a Pathfinder team.
To this day I maintain that ME2 had the best overall squad and they got rid of all but two members of the original team and had the largest headcount. So I'm not opposed to a major roster change on principle. What I will say is that I would hope that any party members who don't return as members of the team in future the sequel, especially for romance options, remain as major NPC's with relationships that continue and are given equal time to any new romance options that come along. So long as they aren't given the treatment that Ashley & Kaidan were in ME2 or that the whole of the ME2 squad was in ME3, I wouldn't mind if this whole crew was rotated out and we got an entirely new one in the next game.
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Post by Sah291 on Apr 5, 2017 17:24:14 GMT
Yes I would mostly like to see them all back and developed, if Ryder returns. Maybe they don't all come back as squad mates, or they rotate in a couple new or existing minor characters.
I'm fine with returning LIs not necessarily all being squad mates, although I hope that they would look to the way the DAI team handled them--Cullen and Josephine were both pretty well done.
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Post by quecojo on Apr 5, 2017 20:12:28 GMT
First of all, please let us change our squadmates weapons!!! Or at least upgrade them!
My take on the squad:
Liam: least favorite teammate with a horrible weapon. He can leave and go help form his own squad similar to his past HUSTL group, and provide rescue, defense and support to our budding outposts/colonies.
Cora: as a LI, she can stay, plus she is our second in command. In the next game maybe at the beginning she'll be recruiting new squad members or something or operating with the Nexus, then she'll rejoin us.
Vetra: didnt really impress me all that much. I feel like she'd serve better as a support role and provide us with equipment and upgrades throughout the game instead of as a squad member. So let her leave the squad and form her own little smuggling/black ops group to support the colonies and the pathfinders.
Drack: As great as he is, he is old. He should probably go support (control/influence) Morda and New Tuchanka. If not, maybe let him die in an act of heroic sacrifice against the Kett or some new enemy.
Jaal: I really liked Jaal as a character. His weapon choice and powers not so much. A sniper with a close combat ability??? Really??? Anyways, he should stay on board as a liaison with the Angaran and overall guide to the Heleus cluster.
Peebee: Like Cora, let her be off discovering a new lead on the Remnant and their creators and let us letter go join her/rescue her at some point. Where she will join us once again.
For new squad members any other alien race would be great. If they get rid of Cora or Liam, then we'll probably see a replacement human join us. Maybe Massani's son? Would be interesting.
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Post by blastoandbubin on Apr 5, 2017 21:52:46 GMT
If Ryder returns, I'd prefer we keep most of the squad. Sure, some characters are a little less interesting than others, but that happens with every new crew, even replacements (see: booting the Virmire survivor and replacing them with poor, underdeveloped Jacob. It's not always an upward trajectory, quality-wise.) I'd like to see what they can do with another game's worth of character development, and returning squadmates over multiple games is like, half of Mass Effect's appeal to me. I was so annoyed when I saw how many of ME1's old guard had been sidelined for ME2, lol, and I find several of ME2's companions pretty meh themselves.
I don't know who they'd replace, though. Cora seems pretty all-in on the Pathfinder team, and she's the most well-developed romance, so it'd be kind of weird to kick her off. But then again, moving on from being the Pathfinder's number 2 makes sense too, I guess.
The entire point of Peebee's loyalty mission is that she finally feels like she's found a place and team where she wants to stay, plus she's the Remnant expert, so she seems unlikely - although they could do a sort of juiced-up ME2 Liara with her, where she's still involved in some missions but is offship and doing her own thing with some new Remnant lead.
Jaal has such an intense fanbase already, replacing him seems like a dumb move, plus he works as our local Heleus connection. And, like Cora for dude Ryder, he's the most developed romance for female Ryder; sidelining him in favor of some new guy/girl seems silly.
I could see Liam getting his own squad to run down in the colonies or something. Vetra could go either way - she doesn't seem integral to the team, but I like her, so I'd rather she stick around.
Drack, even though I love him, seems like the obvious guy to get the boot.
Personally, I'd like a couple new squadmates, with maybe Drack being replaced with maybe a quarian dude and a bonus female angaran or salarian. You get a little fresh blood without losing the family feel of the original team, improve some issues with the old squad, plus they could let us check in with Drack down on Eladaan.
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Post by malanek on Apr 5, 2017 22:29:40 GMT
Bioware does have a pretty good track record of improving characters over time with more content imo. In ME1, I actually thought all the squadmates were bland with the exception of Ashley. However by the end of ME3, I feel they all improved in terms of depth by quite a bit. The writers were able to build on what had already been written and add a lot of character to them. So I wouldn't be adverse to any of them coming back so long as the writers felt there was room for growth. At the same time, it would be good to get one or two new guys as well.
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Post by OdanUrr on Apr 6, 2017 0:14:19 GMT
I'd want Suvi as a squadmate. The rest... maybe Drack.
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Post by DoctorFox on Apr 6, 2017 0:38:58 GMT
Liam i would ditch because he's boring in every part of the game except his loyalty mission. Maybe have him depart for a new life on one of the golden worlds.
Peebee i would keep because her remnant tech knowledge is pivotal whether you romance her or not and her personality is entertaining.
Drack i would keep coz he's literally a krogan zaeed - good for old war stories and humor
Vetra i would ditch or possibly kill off so that she could be replaced by her sister Sid. I like Sid more because she takes the initiative and isn't as grouchy as Vetra. She reminds me of ME1 Tali in a way - young, bright with a lot of potential to grow.
Jaal i would probably ditch so i could have a Drell squadmate in his place. Jaal serves a purpose in ME:A to teach us about the Angara but in ME:A2 if Bioware were to make that game, i don't think we'd need Jaal anymore with so many other Angarans in the game to talk to.
Cora I would ditch for sure. I'd have her become some authority figure in ME:A2. And take on either a Salarian squadmate or another completely different human squadmate.
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Post by Steelcan on Apr 6, 2017 1:00:10 GMT
keep Jaal, maybe Peebee, the rest can move on
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Post by ATR16 on Apr 6, 2017 2:32:47 GMT
Fuck no.
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Post by legacyofmandalore on Apr 6, 2017 5:38:23 GMT
Vetra, Drack, and PeeBee I want back. The other three I don't care.
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Post by sageoflife on Apr 6, 2017 5:41:05 GMT
They should at least keep the squad love interests around to avoid what happened with the ME2 cast. At the same time, they should add a few new squadmates, some of which should be existing NPCs.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 6, 2017 6:34:02 GMT
I'd want Suvi as a squadmate. The rest... maybe Drack. Suvi does make it clear that she's in no way a fighter, though you can tease her about teaching her.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 6, 2017 6:38:48 GMT
If Ryder returns, I'd prefer we keep most of the squad. Sure, some characters are a little less interesting than others, but that happens with every new crew, even replacements (see: booting the Virmire survivor and replacing them with poor, underdeveloped Jacob. It's not always an upward trajectory, quality-wise.) I'd like to see what they can do with another game's worth of character development, and returning squadmates over multiple games is like, half of Mass Effect's appeal to me. I was so annoyed when I saw how many of ME1's old guard had been sidelined for ME2, lol, and I find several of ME2's companions pretty meh themselves. I don't know who they'd replace, though. Cora seems pretty all-in on the Pathfinder team, and she's the most well-developed romance, so it'd be kind of weird to kick her off. But then again, moving on from being the Pathfinder's number 2 makes sense too, I guess. The entire point of Peebee's loyalty mission is that she finally feels like she's found a place and team where she wants to stay, plus she's the Remnant expert, so she seems unlikely - although they could do a sort of juiced-up ME2 Liara with her, where she's still involved in some missions but is offship and doing her own thing with some new Remnant lead. Jaal has such an intense fanbase already, replacing him seems like a dumb move, plus he works as our local Heleus connection. And, like Cora for dude Ryder, he's the most developed romance for female Ryder; sidelining him in favor of some new guy/girl seems silly. I could see Liam getting his own squad to run down in the colonies or something. Vetra could go either way - she doesn't seem integral to the team, but I like her, so I'd rather she stick around. Drack, even though I love him, seems like the obvious guy to get the boot. Personally, I'd like a couple new squadmates, with maybe Drack being replaced with maybe a quarian dude and a bonus female angaran or salarian. You get a little fresh blood without losing the family feel of the original team, improve some issues with the old squad, plus they could let us check in with Drack down on Eladaan. I actually agree with this for the most part. I was not particularly happy with the dispersal of the ME1 crew, though I did like some of the ME2 roundup. In fairness though, there would be no way for the ME1 lot to escape the effects of the suicide mission, and the devs wanted to keep them around for ME3, so everyone else was disposable. I think the one that is the best candidate to get rid of is Drack. Being extremely old, either the effects of his age make for good reasons for him to decide to part ways.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 6, 2017 7:05:56 GMT
First of all, please let us change our squadmates weapons!!! Or at least upgrade them! My take on the squad: Liam: least favorite teammate with a horrible weapon. He can leave and go help form his own squad similar to his past HUSTL group, and provide rescue, defense and support to our budding outposts/colonies. Cora: as a LI, she can stay, plus she is our second in command. In the next game maybe at the beginning she'll be recruiting new squad members or something or operating with the Nexus, then she'll rejoin us. Vetra: didnt really impress me all that much. I feel like she'd serve better as a support role and provide us with equipment and upgrades throughout the game instead of as a squad member. So let her leave the squad and form her own little smuggling/black ops group to support the colonies and the pathfinders. Drack: As great as he is, he is old. He should probably go support (control/influence) Morda and New Tuchanka. If not, maybe let him die in an act of heroic sacrifice against the Kett or some new enemy. Jaal: I really liked Jaal as a character. His weapon choice and powers not so much. A sniper with a close combat ability??? Really??? Anyways, he should stay on board as a liaison with the Angaran and overall guide to the Heleus cluster. Peebee: Like Cora, let her be off discovering a new lead on the Remnant and their creators and let us letter go join her/rescue her at some point. Where she will join us once again. For new squad members any other alien race would be great. If they get rid of Cora or Liam, then we'll probably see a replacement human join us. Maybe Massani's son? Would be interesting. Jaal is not a sniper. He uses an assault rifle.... At best he's an engineer with Kasumi's infiltrator strike. In fact, we didn't get a single squad mate who uses a sniper, oddly enough.
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Post by r3dl4nce on Apr 6, 2017 7:31:43 GMT
IMHO Liam is the new "Jacob" character, I try to have him sometims in squad but really can't think good of him. Peebee is very nice at her first appearance, and I had great hopes in her, still I'm not very impressed with her while I'm playing. Jaal is very good, is a member of a new race, he has a lot to know about him and his race, in combat he makes a good pair with me as both are using snipre rifles from afar. Cora at first seems not so good, then hour after hour of play, she seems better and better. Her ability to boost sheild is great in combat. Drack is Drack. He is an old krogan with great stories and good combat power. A must have even for future chapters of Andromeda Last, Vetra. I'm still trying to get my opinion of her. But I think I'll like her, so yes, she could stay in the future chapters.
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Post by Pokemario on Apr 6, 2017 7:36:32 GMT
I see some of the Tempest crew leaving, but others staying.
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