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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 13:24:38 GMT
FULL STORY SPOILERS:
Premise: A bunch of humans and aliens are introduced to a new setting when they all move to the neighbouring galaxy over 600 years so they can explore and settle down in a foreign galaxy.
When waking up Ryder embarks on a mission with his superior, his dad Alec Ryder who is a Pathfinder, but during the mission something unexpected goes wrong which kills his dad, the role of Pathfinder is passed on to Ryder a bit later, and Ryder is granted a sort of special ability via his AI SAM, to interact with some strange alien tech.
And then, It turns out the alien tech belongs to machines called The Remnant by PeeBee, an asari archeologist who's been trying to study them to find out what happened in the last 600 years to the Golden Worlds that have become uninhabitable. Following her lead, Ryder and co end up in a Vault that cleanses the atmosphere of its abnormal radiation.
And then you bump into the Archon pretty randomly, go to an alien planet and talk to some Angara, a new species. Then you go to one of their worlds, and upon entering Voeld you get to learn about their Exaltation which turns other species into their own kind, almost like they're indoctrinating people or transforming them.
And then you have to hunt the Archon and his Kett to help the Angara, even though your job is to colonize worlds, but apparently if you find something called the Meridian you can do that very easily because it connects to all Remnant Vaults.
Then, you hunt the Archon by finding his location which leads you to find that a Salarian Pathfinder is also there. It's almost as if he's an STG and you're a Spectre, then you learn that the Kett are doing something to all species but specifically the Krogan who you fight against, and afterwards you have to choose to save the Salarians there or the Krogan, almost as if you're choosing between two of Shepard's squadmates, except with less emotional attachment or bonding.
Then, you go to where this supposed Meridian is, only to find out that it's not there but an AI voice reminiscent of Vigil informs you of the truth that a forerunner race, the Prothean-like Jarvaal created the Angara who are in stasis pods all around the walls. Pretty big revelation. However, Sare-- The Archon and his Ge-- Kett are already on board the Cit-- The Nexus right under our noses -- they even bypassed all security and they didn't even use the Conduit which is not in this galaxy by the way, and they turn off Ryder's AI which makes it hard for him to move. Then Ryder's twin helps from the Nexus by making EDI take control of the Norman-- that is, she reactivates SAM while the player plays as her through a streamlined in-between action segment, and the Ark crashlands on Ilos.
Then Ryder drives his Mako through Ilos and reaches the Archon in a final encounter, and upon beating him they activate the Crucible Meridian which grants them everything they always wanted in Andromeda which is perfectly habitable golden worlds, all in a flip-switch.
Then finally, Ryder chooses who temporarily becomes the not-Councilor of 3 people we just barely interacted with as part of the plot, and he brofists his crew and then the plot is over.
I thought this was a pretty good plot. It reminded me a lot of ME1 and I love ME1, so I think that makes it great. What about you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:34:01 GMT
Wait a minute... Maybe the Jardaan will start abducting human colonists in the next game, to give them to the flood? Then we'll discover the scourge is actually a lot of people's biomass launched into space... And then, to the end of the game we'll have to activate the Remnant halo ring, perhaps Ryder-117's Samtana will start to malfunction and turn homicidal. Looks promising.
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Post by fraggle on Apr 5, 2017 13:35:48 GMT
Have to admit that made me laugh because the parallels are so painfully obvious that even I groaned, and I'm a defender of ME3's ending The story is super lackluster, and instead of trying to settle for something new and exciting, different or... actually a little tension due to going to a new and potentially dangerous galaxy, this is just a rehash of everything we've seen in ME before.
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Post by fraggle on Apr 5, 2017 13:37:17 GMT
Wait a minute... Maybe the Jardaan will start abducting human colonists in the next game, to give them to the flood? But wouldn't that be a rehash of what the collect kett already did to... oh wait!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:42:13 GMT
Wow, when you summarize it like that. Maybe they played it a bit too safe? Just maybe!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 13:46:14 GMT
I think I know what will happen in Andromeda 2.
You move to the dark and seedy Omnibus Cluster which neighbours Andromeda after SAM has to kill Ryder again as part of an early mission, and then after being revived 1 year later when his crew has moved on, it turns out that Tann and the other leaders have begun denying that the Global Scourge Warming exists. In the new cluster Ryder meets the people who killed Jien Garson who knows what is what, and they also know that there's a new subspecies of the Kett called the Handpickers who abducts non-Angaran races to turn them into more Kett so Ryder agrees to help them and assemble a new squad while being rejected by his former companions, and it turns out the Jardaan actually created the Handpickers and the Kett.
To ^ It's so safe I would call it plagiarism if it hadn't been made by the same company.
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Post by sil on Apr 5, 2017 13:52:23 GMT
Don't forget we'll have a Kett squadmate!
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Post by bekkael on Apr 5, 2017 13:53:53 GMT
Handpickers?! That actually made me laugh out loud. I keep accidentally calling Kett the Collectors. Also, I think the reaperized version of Krogan are far more intimidating than exalted Krogan.
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Post by Oswin on Apr 5, 2017 14:07:06 GMT
That moment when you realise that the Kett transform other species into their own kind. I feel like everything is just rehashed nostalgia right now. I'm not sure if this is just a normal part of getting old or if JJ Abrams is to blame.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 14:13:27 GMT
Or that moment when you realize PeeBee is an asari archeologist who's been studying the remains of what happened X years ago that "changed the galaxy" or when you meet Vetra and her Sister is being embarrassing over her computer or when you see the AI room on Meridian and feel like you're watching the Prothean stasis pods on Ilos as Vigil tells you the truth.
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Post by Oswin on Apr 5, 2017 14:25:05 GMT
That moment when the Nexus leaders came together to agree that you shouldn't go running to what turned out be the Remnant city, but you sneak off and do it anyway.. Because you had the most capable ship for the job.. Seemed a bit familiar.
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Post by danishgambit on Apr 5, 2017 19:28:29 GMT
You missed the part about them finding the fade rift on Habitat 7.
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Post by vyndral on Apr 5, 2017 20:00:43 GMT
Please please let it continue in the next one! I need me some crazy ass biotic sexy time below deck!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 20:03:17 GMT
That moment when you realise that the Kett transform other species into their own kind. I feel like everything is just rehashed nostalgia right now. I'm not sure if this is just a normal part of getting old or if JJ Abrams is to blame. JJ Abrams and TFA's positive reception was a free pass for Mac and co. to give a rehash the go-ahead. Yeah "Mac lives and breathes Mass Effect". suuuuure.
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Post by jackdaniel on Apr 5, 2017 21:12:41 GMT
If there ever was a setting where you don't have to fight an evil alien invader to have a good story, this was it. I have come to the realization that BioWare is incapable of writing story without resorting to relying a pure evil enemy fighting you for pure evil reason. It makes sense with reapers or the blight, but I don't see why meridith has to be corrupted by lyrium idol, or even why DAI needs corephyus in the plot at all.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 21:20:35 GMT
If there ever was a setting where you don't have to fight an evil alien invader to have a good story, this was it. I have come to the realization that BioWare is incapable of writing story without resorting to relying a pure evil enemy fighting you for pure evil reason. It makes sense with reapers or the blight, but I don't see why meridith has to be corrupted by lyrium idol, or even why DAI needs corephyus in the plot at all. That is the least of this game's plot issues, to say the least.
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Post by Petroshenko on Apr 5, 2017 21:32:19 GMT
Final choice was the worst, I still don't get who exactly I'm chosing for what position of which governing body created and voted by whom. Like, is it Angara-Nexus joint government? Then why do I even have a say on Angara representative, shouldn't they be chosing their own?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 22:41:54 GMT
Final choice was the worst, I still don't get who exactly I'm chosing for what position of which governing body created and voted by whom. Like, is it Angara-Nexus joint government? Then why do I even have a say on Angara representative, shouldn't they be chosing their own? It doesn't even matter, because when you talk to them they say "Good thing this is only temporary!"! So don't worry there, buddy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 0:06:39 GMT
It's mass effect but trying to prove god doesn't exist instead of playing as she-Jesus. Because nobody played as male Shepard Casey Hudson was probably very religious and Mac Walters probably not.
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Post by armass81 on Apr 6, 2017 0:26:55 GMT
So how would you have made the story?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 0:39:12 GMT
So how would you have made the story? It would be mostly about saving the other Arks and establishing colonies. There wouldn't be vaults. The Kett can't instantly change somebody either. Archon would be in heleus to Harvest planets for resources, uncaring who is on them. If you don't help the Krogan they can ally with the Archon since they too are desperate for a resource and they are the only species the Archon likes since they are tough. We don't understand the technology because the Archon have been developing it during the 600 years while we slept. The angara are created through evolution and God like anyone else not some machines. (God wouldn't be confirmed but I wouldn't disrespect the idea either) Ryder would be allowed to be religious based on Dialgoue choices instead of any choice saying they don't believe in God or heaven. The sibling would wake earlier and be weak. They'd research info you send them on the Tempest as a recon specialist and develop a relationship with the human of the opposite sex of them (since the human companions are straight anyway) while settling on planets you need to find ways to stay safeness from environmental hazards not vaults that magically change the weather. You'd fight off Kett bases and vaults would be replaced by stopping the Kett from draining resources and killing the planets by shutting down their systems. Meridian is an advanced planet made by the Jardaan to have a safe haven when the Kett took out their planet years ago. The Jardaan are living in the interior and notice we settle the surface of the planet giving them hope that they've finally found a powerful ally. Archon tries to destroy they're city becoming obsessed with that; primus just wants to harvest resources for their empire. The scourge can still be a weapon but I'd make it something used against the Kett or to slow them down but it backfired. Made by ancient angara which is why they got set backwards in technology and all their colonies lost communication with one another so they all know bits and pieces of their history and you piece it together.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 0:39:55 GMT
It isn't perfect but it would be better
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Post by armass81 on Apr 6, 2017 0:51:11 GMT
It isn't perfect but it would be better We will be the judge of that.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 6, 2017 1:03:46 GMT
Let me fix the plot: The meridian needs to go. The Archon needs to go. The Angara are just another alien race, not some neo-synthetics that are artificially created. We go to Andromeda because we are hundreds of thousands of people who HAVE been informed of the Reaper threat in 2185 by our benefactors and private organizations, we keep the Kett but make them at war with the Angara over their right to certain homeworlds of Heleus. The plot revolves around helping both aliens and the Andromeda Initiative stop the spreading Scourge-pollution that is caused by Rem-tech and this involved a series of political intrigue between Us and them and the other them and how Angara don't trust us because the Kett betrayed them and started executing them, then went to war with them over their conflicts, even though Angara are the natives.
It becomes a story about colonization and not superficial bullcrap where true evil is defined or where there are religious cults that force people on their side to give us an enemy.
There'd be plenty of reason here, still, to kill wildlife like Fiends, outlaws who don't want any of the bereaucratic crap we brought with us on the Nexus, and many Kett and Angara sub-factions like in the game right now that occasionally need to be destroyed but also more opportunities for resolving encounters with peace. For example, they could've turned the initial "First Contact" protocol moment's mechanic where Ryder raises his hands into a consistent mechanic that we could engage in contextually and sometimes the specific group of Kett or Angara would react non-violently to it and let you scour around the vicinity without harm, and then upon doing stuff to the Remtech, the area would default to peaceful to the governing race of that area.
How much thought actually went into this game? Not much because it's fucking BioWare and their DnD and depassionated vet writers
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 3:57:58 GMT
It isn't perfect but it would be better We will be the judge of that. I mean I had a few other ideas too but that's the one that would appeal to me more maybe not the most marketable I guess.
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