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Post by flyingsquirrel on Apr 5, 2017 14:28:51 GMT
So I just got to this sidequest on Voeld where one of the angara scouts unexpectedly survived an explosion, but when I find her, she's torturing a wounded kett that she thinks has information about where her family is. However, it seems like my only option for disapproving of the torture results in Ryder pulling a gun and shooting the kett in the head.
Am I missing something here? Is this option supposed to be a "mercy killing"? I personally disagree ethically with both torture *and* mercy killings, though maybe this is just a choice where I can't make Ryder see things the way I would. But it's not really phrased very clearly - the phrasing of the choice on the wheel was "I have to kill them." And "torture is wrong, now stand aside while I execute a defenseless prisoner" would make Ryder seem like kind of a hypocrite, and it's probably against whatever rules of war exist regarding POWs in this context.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 14:30:46 GMT
The Kett doesn't seem to have anymore information to give her, but you know she will keep on torturing him for answers she's likely not going to get. Shooting the Kett is not a mercy kill, but a way to stop the Angaran's obsession. Take away her reason to not go home.
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Post by shechinah on Apr 5, 2017 14:35:09 GMT
The Kett doesn't seem to have anymore information to give her, but you know she will keep on torturing him for answers she's likely not going to get. Shooting the Kett is not a mercy kill, but a way to stop the Angaran's obsession. Take away her reason to not go home. Pretty much, yeah. You know, given what you learn at the exaltation facility, there is also the rather horrifying possibility that she was unknowingly torturing a member of her family. |
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Apr 5, 2017 16:11:58 GMT
So I can either allow the torture to continue, or I can act like Renegade Shepard murdering Talid in Thane's loyalty mission? Ugh. That just plain sucks.
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Post by Marduk on Apr 5, 2017 16:30:35 GMT
So I can either allow the torture to continue, or I can act like Renegade Shepard murdering Talid in Thane's loyalty mission? Ugh. That just plain sucks. If i recall, if you leave her be, you have to tell the quest giver her location so they help her instead. |
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Post by Croatsky on Apr 5, 2017 17:01:22 GMT
Whatever happened to taking prisoners?
Hell, I know Lexi wants an alive Kett to look at to see what get's them ticking.
Also wasted opportunity to get to talk to normal Kett grunt.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Apr 5, 2017 17:07:42 GMT
So I can either allow the torture to continue, or I can act like Renegade Shepard murdering Talid in Thane's loyalty mission? Ugh. That just plain sucks. If i recall, if you leave her be, you have to tell the quest giver her location so they help her instead. I'll try that and see what happens. Jaal seemed extremely upset when I tried that dialogue choice, and then Ryder rather unconvincingly and vaguely replied that "there's nothing we can do." (And I'm thinking, um, yes there is - put the scout and the wounded kett in the Nomad and take them both back to the base. Nobody has to die or be tortured.) I may end up reloading to before I was given this quest and then just avoid whoever gives it to me if leaving her there and reporting the situation doesn't lead to any sort of sensible outcome. |
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Post by SpymasterZero on Apr 5, 2017 17:11:15 GMT
Definitely shoot the Kett.
I put the Angaran's well-being in the forefront and figured she's just going to starve to death out there, obsessively trying to get information out of this Kett.
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Post by Marduk on Apr 5, 2017 17:14:13 GMT
If i recall, if you leave her be, you have to tell the quest giver her location so they help her instead. I'll try that and see what happens. Jaal seemed extremely upset when I tried that dialogue choice, and then Ryder rather unconvincingly and vaguely replied that "there's nothing we can do." (And I'm thinking, um, yes there is - put the scout and the wounded kett in the Nomad and take them both back to the base. Nobody has to die or be tortured.) I may end up reloading to before I was given this quest and then just avoid whoever gives it to me if leaving her there and reporting the situation doesn't lead to any sort of sensible outcome. To me it felt like i left her fate in their hands. they wanted her location and i found her. they knew her better than me so they had a better chance of convincing her, assuming they could get to her in time. sadly i usually don't care about these decisions much unless it is a loyalty quest or a main mission. Bioware gave me a bad habit i guess. |
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 5, 2017 19:04:58 GMT
I left it to the other angarans to sort out, actually.
No, you don't have to encourage her or shoot the kett.
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Post by melbella on Apr 6, 2017 4:42:40 GMT
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 6, 2017 4:48:58 GMT
Wow, I finished 98% complete, but I didn't see this quest! I wonder if it was one of the bugged ones, for me? I quit reading the OP as soon as I realized that I was unacquainted with this quest.
Anyone mind telling me either the name of the quest, or at least where/how it begins?
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Post by melbella on Apr 6, 2017 4:58:58 GMT
Wow, I finished 98% complete, but I didn't see this quest! I wonder if it was one of the bugged ones, for me? I quit reading the OP as soon as I realized that I was unacquainted with this quest. Anyone mind telling me either the name of the quest, or at least where/how it begins?
The quest is called Lost Scout. You pick it up in one of the camps on Voeld - the first one you to go to, I think? You can hear some ambient dialogue about someone possibly still being alive and wanting to send someone to look for them but no one's available to search.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 6, 2017 5:24:38 GMT
Wow, I finished 98% complete, but I didn't see this quest! I wonder if it was one of the bugged ones, for me? I quit reading the OP as soon as I realized that I was unacquainted with this quest. Anyone mind telling me either the name of the quest, or at least where/how it begins?
The quest is called Lost Scout. You pick it up in one of the camps on Voeld - the first one you to go to, I think? You can hear some ambient dialogue about someone possibly still being alive and wanting to send someone to look for them but no one's available to search.
This one did glitch for me. I couldn't interact with a site that was along her trail. I hope it works next time. Actually, I hope they patch all of the broken quests, so that I can finally experience the few I missed among that 2% that I didn't complete. I think there were only 5 tasks that I didn't finish. Three were glitched; one was the Roekarr Manifestos; and one was finding all of the Eos settlers' bodies. I'm not sure if there were any quests that I failed to trigger, but I doubt it. I was extremely thorough. |
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