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Post by bowlfreaknot on Apr 5, 2017 14:57:30 GMT
I have gotten as far as Kadara but there are a bunch of things that I don't understand. I've only played the first Mass Effect game so some of the lore is lost on me, which might be the problem.
1. Group of individuals decides to travel to and settle Andromeda. First ship to leave is the Nexus? It carries a mixed race crew with the purpose of arriving a few months?? ahead of the Arks. It seems to rely solely on the supplies it brought for food, and has a limited power supply. Also, it is not a complete structure on arrival and still needs to be built? This all confuses me particularly the power part. Can they not get unlimited solar power? or would that not be enough for all they need? What sorts of power are used in the mass effect universe at that time? As for food, wouldn't it have made more sense to grow it on arrival them add the extra cargo of bringing it? What food stuffs would last 600 years? or are they growing it and I missed that...
2. All the Arks leave next. Each ark has a Pathfinder and AI on board. The whole time the ark is traveling SAM is on board and awake, yes or no? Would SAM know what happened to make the human ark late? or is that not relevant? Why can't SAM talk to the other SAM's? He seems to be able to find and communicate with us no matter where we are? Wouldn't the SAMs have been linked together during the journey?
oh, and small thing but it's really bugging me... why are they using flashlights and not night vision gear? to hard to animate is a fine answer, I didn't know if there was an actual logical reason.
Thanks for being patience.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 5, 2017 15:18:45 GMT
1. Regarding power, in the MEU huge constructs like ships and space stations use element zero as a power source. Other sources of power like wind and solar aren't enough to power something like the Nexus. As for food, they did plan to grow food when they got there but the planets they thought they could do that on turned out be inhospitable wastelands. They are able to grow some food like in Hydroponics and have some freezed rations but that isn't enough to sustain everyone on the station which is why most are still in stasis.
2. Most likely the SAM on each Ark is awake to monitor the ship while the crew are all in stasis. Time has no meaning to AI. The Ark being late is not relevant since the time it took seems to be within the margin of error on how long it would take to get to Andromeda. The Scourge hampers sensors and communications at the beginning of the game, and there are no real systems in place at first for long range FTL communication.
3. Probably just flashlights are easier to animate and won't hurt player's eyes like using night vision can.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 16:11:54 GMT
The Arks did communicate during the journey, but right after you wake up there's a datapad in cryobay which reads that they lost connection along the way. Drifted apart I imagine. More of a 'ping'. It's hard to communicate between two objects that travel at FTL at the same time.
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Post by bowlfreaknot on Apr 5, 2017 17:49:57 GMT
Thank you both for the quick replies, that helps. I know that I read a lot of those facts just wasn't able to put them together... thinking too small.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 17:56:22 GMT
One thing to remember is that no one was expecting the Scourge. Which is fair, really. Not expecting anything to happen to the planets you've scouted in 600+ years is a little blindly optimistic but not expecting a light-years wide, cluster spanning cloud of dark energy is understandable. The Scourge inflicted significant damage on the Nexus and the arks and likely affected critical systems, resulting in the Nexus' low power and food shortages.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 5, 2017 20:09:43 GMT
Hurling across dark space I wonder what made them "drift apart", in fact it seems like the only ship that arrived where it was supposed to was the Human Ark....sabotage?
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Post by quecojo on Apr 5, 2017 20:17:57 GMT
Hurling across dark space I wonder what made them "drift apart", in fact it seems like the only ship that arrived where it was supposed to was the Human Ark....sabotage? They were each aiming for their respective Golden Worlds. Since the Nexus was going to arrive first, they'd have a friendly port to land at if anything happened and to provide support, trade and a seat of government, like the Citadel for all the potential colonies. Of course, the Scourge messed up all these plans. |
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 5, 2017 21:00:19 GMT
Hurling across dark space I wonder what made them "drift apart", in fact it seems like the only ship that arrived where it was supposed to was the Human Ark....sabotage? They were each aiming for their respective Golden Worlds. Since the Nexus was going to arrive first, they'd have a friendly port to land at if anything happened and to provide support, trade and a seat of government, like the Citadel for all the potential colonies. Of course, the Scourge messed up all these plans. Based on information the drift occurred before they even entered Andromeda, and it staggered their arrival, to the point that the human ark arrived last. |
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Post by quecojo on Apr 5, 2017 21:09:56 GMT
They were each aiming for their respective Golden Worlds. Since the Nexus was going to arrive first, they'd have a friendly port to land at if anything happened and to provide support, trade and a seat of government, like the Citadel for all the potential colonies. Of course, the Scourge messed up all these plans. Based on information the drift occurred before they even entered Andromeda, and it staggered their arrival, to the point that the human ark arrived last. I can understand the staggered arrival, but weren't they all meant to head towards their golden worlds, let loose the colonists, then head over to the Nexus? Can't recall what the codex said and am at work, so I can't verify. They really should make a companion app where we can access all our unlocked codex entries and what not... |
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 5, 2017 21:39:11 GMT
As I recall, Alec said that procedure was to establish contact with the Nexus first, and proceed to the golden world if they couldn't for whatever reason.
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Post by warbaby2 on Apr 5, 2017 22:05:20 GMT
1. Energy usually comes from zero point generators that use Ezo as "fuel", but the actual systems of the Nexus (and the Arks) where mostly powered by the static energy generated by the ODSY drive. Upon arrival, the Arks should have been docked at the Nexus to give it additional generator capacity, which didn't happen for 14 months, though. By the time the Hyperion arrives, the Nexus was most likely out of fuel. Also, as stated above: Solar power would never be enough for a station planned to house 1.2-2.7 million people. Food for the base alone should have come from the hydroponic gardens (which again need power, among other things) and trade... both things where also not possible until the Arks arrived.
2. Sam was most likely "awake", but I doubt consistent quantum entanglement communication would have been possible during 600 years of FTL travel. Far too many variables have to be right for this form of communication to even work in the first place... like stable, known positions for at least the sender or receiver.
3. Flashlights are probably just a gameplay thing, but astronauts still use them these days, even though we also already have night vision... *shrugs* Probably more reliable, especially for workers and explorers that don't have to worry about giving their position away.
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Post by quecojo on Apr 5, 2017 23:23:05 GMT
As I recall, Alec said that procedure was to establish contact with the Nexus first, and proceed to the golden world if they couldn't for whatever reason. While true, why then were they so close to their Golden World target once they all started waking up? Pretty sure that the Nexus wasn't going to wait for everybody at the human golden world... Same goes for the other Arks, at least for the Turians for sure, since we find them in the same system were their golden world was. Kinda confusing. And no way does drifting apart allow them to conveniently arrive at the system were Habitat 7 is. Don't know if the Uprising book explains their moves better, just started reading it. |
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Post by bowlfreaknot on Apr 6, 2017 12:39:14 GMT
It's funny that you mention sabotage because that's what I thought when I read the datapad. It seemed odd and then no one commented on the error so I guessed it wasn't relevant. Or as with so much else, stuff I should have understood and didn't.
Another question I had is about time. On a few occasions they ask each other how old they are? Wouldn't it depend on which planet you're from? Have they got a standard of measure in the Milky Way universe and if so what is it? What would it be now? Still use old earth standards of 60, 24, and 365?
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 6, 2017 22:09:11 GMT
1. Energy usually comes from zero point generators that use Ezo as "fuel", but the actual systems of the Nexus (and the Arks) where mostly powered by the static energy generated by the ODSY drive. Upon arrival, the Arks should have been docked at the Nexus to give it additional generator capacity, which didn't happen for 14 months, though. By the time the Hyperion arrives, the Nexus was most likely out of fuel. Also, as stated above: Solar power would never be enough for a station planned to house 1.2-2.7 million people. Food for the base alone should have come from the hydroponic gardens (which again need power, among other things) and trade... both things where also not possible until the Arks arrived. 2. Sam was most likely "awake", but I doubt consistent quantum entanglement communication would have been possible during 600 years of FTL travel. Far too many variables have to be right for this form of communication to even work in the first place... like stable, known positions for at least the sender or receiver. 3. Flashlights are probably just a gameplay thing, but astronauts still use them these days, even though we also already have night vision... *shrugs* Probably more reliable, especially for workers and explorers that don't have to worry about giving their position away. Also less risky, you can be suddenly in literally blinding light i. Space with little to no warning, so light amplification could give you major issues |
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