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Post by blanks on Apr 6, 2017 0:45:40 GMT
We get nothing but clones in MEA. Maybe they cloned us in cryo? Imagine Mass Effect Andromeda but with Hank and Dean Venture instead of Scott and Sara.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 6, 2017 2:35:45 GMT
Having even three or four head models would be enough for variety. One for your squadmate, the rest for the various NPCs you interact with, and the background peeps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 2:44:38 GMT
It all comes down to the lack of polish and focus any way. If the project leads or higher ups said that the dev team shouldn't focus on this, well then they are wrong. This is important and it will get noticed, after all we are here talking about it.
They did say that they intend to do something with character appearances in the next few months though, so i wonder what that is. Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't atleast go over all the Asari models and changed their faces to be more unique. I think the Krogan look the best, but they do have some weird colour choices going on. Also most Salarians in the game feel very unique.
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Post by AGECCR on Apr 6, 2017 3:06:18 GMT
But Mordin (your squadmate) WAS unique. Jaal is everywhere you turn, with only that little scar to differentiate. The angara didn't bother me. They came in so many beautiful shades, hues and varieties of color, that the limited number of models didn't even strike me. The turians from the OT, as others have mentioned, have always been far worse offenders. The angara are much like OT salarians-- same models, presented with great variety. Plus, the angara at least had great variety in their voices. All OT salarians and turians, by comparison, shared the same few voices. Exactly what how I feel on this subject. I had no trouble telling any of the Angara apart and I, personally, love their design. Most of the turians in this game had that bone-white carapace and a brown neck (like Vetra). The OT at least a few more varieties of color for them (miss the darker plated tones like Nihlus and the Counselor had). The colony markings were poorly done, too. As others have said, Sid and Vetra had different colored markings and I was spoiled on another turian (I won't name) that has totally different markings than his family member. It strips their significance and turns them into just cool tats or something. I also miss the aged turian look some had from ME1. Some of the facial expressions in that race are still missing from 1 as well, but they are more pronounced in Andromeda than 2 or 3 at least.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 6, 2017 3:22:40 GMT
The angara didn't bother me. They came in so many beautiful shades, hues and varieties of color, that the limited number of models didn't even strike me. The turians from the OT, as others have mentioned, have always been far worse offenders. The angara are much like OT salarians-- same models, presented with great variety. Plus, the angara at least had great variety in their voices. All OT salarians and turians, by comparison, shared the same few voices. Exactly what how I feel on this subject. I had no trouble telling any of the Angara apart and I, personally, love their design. Most of the turians in this game had that bone-white carapace and a brown neck (like Vetra). The OT at least a few more varieties of color for them (miss the darker plated tones like Nihlus and the Counselor had). The colony markings were poorly done, too. As others have said, Sid and Vetra had different colored markings and I was spoiled on another turian (I won't name) that has totally different markings than his family member. It strips their significance and turns them into just cool tats or something. I also miss the aged turian look some had from ME1. Some of the facial expressions in that race are still missing from 1 as well, but they are more pronounced in Andromeda than 2 or 3 at least. Agreed all around. Maybe two turians from different colonies started a family? I failed to notice this; but there are only so many turian families in the game, so I'll catch it, next time. I think I may restart my NG+ yet again, tomorrow, post-patch. I've created an absolutely flawless face for Sara, but I kind of want to drop her mouth and increase her nose size by one slider-value each. Obsession, that is. I've seen similar faces online, now; but they lack the realistic facial angles and proportions, good hair and makeup, and the lifelike eyes that mine has. (Not meaning to brag. Just "typing aloud".) I wish ME Archives showed actual pics of the characters. Those generic approximations don't really serve to differentiate the art from the chaff. I really enjoyed transforming a rather unimpressive scan into such a nice character.
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Post by laughingbanana on Apr 6, 2017 3:43:18 GMT
It explains why the alien animations are better than humans.. Wait, there are humans, here? The way they moved I thought these humans are aliens!
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Post by Squish on Apr 6, 2017 5:02:08 GMT
Mmm, Jaal.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 6, 2017 5:27:11 GMT
Hah! I do love me some Jaal. But I'd like him to be unique, not every male angara ever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:29:27 GMT
Hah! I do love me some Jaal. But I'd like him to be unique, not every male angara ever. At least Jaal has a few things the other Angara don't, so you can tell them apart if you know where to look lol
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 6, 2017 5:36:38 GMT
The Krogan seem to have a couple different headplates, but I'm not sure.
But remember what they said in ME2-- humans are the most diverse species in the galaxy. Lol.
Angara possibly have a story reason for looking similar that I won't spoil.
At least the females and males look different (except for Salarians it seems).
Not sure why the Asari all look exactly alike, though.
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Post by andromedamnit on Apr 6, 2017 8:13:26 GMT
I've obviously spent too long staring at them but I thought the main-cast Angarans had quite distinctive faces. Beyond the skin colour/markings Jaal, Evfra and Akksul all have a different face shape as far as I can tell. Jaal has a narrow chin while Evfra has a broader chin/jaw and poutier lips. Plus the permafrown. Akksul seemed to have a more pinched sort of face, but maybe that was just the pissed off expressions he pulls at you?!
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Post by andromedamnit on Apr 6, 2017 8:15:25 GMT
The Krogan seem to have a couple different headplates, but I'm not sure. But remember what they said in ME2-- humans are the most diverse species in the galaxy. Lol. Angara possibly have a story reason for looking similar that I won't spoil. At least the females and males look different (except for Salarians it seems). Not sure why the Asari all look exactly alike, though. Yes the Asari were the one race that jarred with me. Why did they all get the exact same bulbous nose? Weird.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 6, 2017 15:51:57 GMT
I've obviously spent too long staring at them but I thought the main-cast Angarans had quite distinctive faces. Beyond the skin colour/markings Jaal, Evfra and Akksul all have a different face shape as far as I can tell. Jaal has a narrow chin while Evfra has a broader chin/jaw and poutier lips. Plus the permafrown. Akksul seemed to have a more pinched sort of face, but maybe that was just the pissed off expressions he pulls at you?! I think they're more expressive, and that makes a difference. But they are all the same mesh.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 6, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
You guys clearly did not pay attention during the trailers, there are over 1,200 UNIQUE Characters in ME:A.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 6, 2017 17:25:51 GMT
But Mordin (your squadmate) WAS unique. Jaal is everywhere you turn, with only that little scar to differentiate. Give him a second scar
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 6, 2017 21:09:36 GMT
But Mordin (your squadmate) WAS unique. Jaal is everywhere you turn, with only that little scar to differentiate. Give him a second scar That's the scar I was talking about, really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:14:32 GMT
That's the scar I was talking about, really. You didn't notice the major one?
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Apr 6, 2017 22:02:55 GMT
[X]Preorder Cancelled
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Apr 6, 2017 22:10:02 GMT
So, I'm playing through the game and I take a good look at the angara. Not only are all the asari clones of Lexi, but all the male angara are clones of Jaal. All the female angara are clones of the Moshae too. It's harder to tell because of scars, more distinct coloring, and various headwear, but they're all definitely the same mesh. The asari and angara should get together, and rush the kett. They'll be so busy trying to tell them apart, they won't have time to fire! And this matters, why? I don't expect the Devs to use a different mesh for all the different humanoids. I mean its nice to have that difference for space dogs, but characters and NPCs? C'mon really?
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Apr 6, 2017 22:12:34 GMT
LOL. This reminds me of the guy who was complaining about the environments looking like shit before the game was release. Boy did he turn out to be wrong.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 6, 2017 23:43:25 GMT
So, I'm playing through the game and I take a good look at the angara. Not only are all the asari clones of Lexi, but all the male angara are clones of Jaal. All the female angara are clones of the Moshae too. It's harder to tell because of scars, more distinct coloring, and various headwear, but they're all definitely the same mesh. The asari and angara should get together, and rush the kett. They'll be so busy trying to tell them apart, they won't have time to fire! And this matters, why? I don't expect the Devs to use a different mesh for all the different humanoids. I mean its nice to have that difference for space dogs, but characters and NPCs? C'mon really? I didn't say for all of them. A unique one for your squad/crewmates, and a couple others for the rest of the NPC's isn't THAT demanding and would look so much better.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 0:33:37 GMT
So, I'm playing through the game and I take a good look at the angara. Not only are all the asari clones of Lexi, but all the male angara are clones of Jaal. All the female angara are clones of the Moshae too. It's harder to tell because of scars, more distinct coloring, and various headwear, but they're all definitely the same mesh. The asari and angara should get together, and rush the kett. They'll be so busy trying to tell them apart, they won't have time to fire! To be fair, all turians and salarians were based on the same models as well since the first game. Mordin was the only unique one out of the group due to his scars and head tentacle missing. That is nothing new, really. Pretty much this. My only beef is the fact that the Asari all have the same face. They never used to, and they look *so* human that having the exact same face is unsettling. When goofy aliens all look the same, that's one thing. But Asari really do just look like blue humans. To give them all the same face (except for Peebee, which makes it weirder) is just............dumb.
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Post by malgus on Apr 7, 2017 0:37:51 GMT
To be fair, in the previous trilogy I could not differentiate a salarian from an other with the exception of mordin, same thing for krogan where most of the differences where the color of the head, with the exception of grunt and wrex (with his scar) their faces were quite similar.
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