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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 0:23:55 GMT
You like gold you want a challenge you want platinum but you are bitching about the guns power. If you want to jump into gold almost from day one its not going to be a picnic. If things were as awful as you say no one would be beating gold. twoo weeks, twoooo weeeks the game has been out. You must be forgetting the beginning of Me3 when the carnifex and asari adept was 'the' class and gun to use. Hey, i am with you on a few issues, i have yet to find an assault rifle I have any use for at all but it's early in the process. Mate are you reading what im preaching ? If they drop Platimun tomorrow - people will be able to farm it by the evening. Been able to do something =/= that thing been fun. I like challenge, i like gold and i hope for higher difficulty like in ME3MP that mixes the races for extra fun. I also hope they make the basic units perform more actions like trowing nade's, using skills ect ect. Meaning making them smarter ( or increasing their spawn ) not making them bullet sponges as they are now. And im not bitching about OP guns im bitching about 90% of the guns been utter trash. How come most of my rare guns are above rank 6 and im yet to find anything to replace my Talon, Vanquisher and Equalizer ( dont even start me on ultra rares ) ? At what point by your standard is weapon supposed to start working ? Clearly not TWOOOOO WEEEEKS - tho i expected to be rank related not so much time related. I'm not asking for OP guns im asking for a selection of weapons i can bring to gold and not feel like im tickling the mooks. Also i find it extremely funny that currently we have exactly one shotgun (Piranha) that performs to any level worth mentioning and the rest of the shotguns are been used for mele ( lel ). And AR's are in even worst position as they cant even be used for mele. Even the Soned is sad sad gun. And something just as important. If vast majority of the guns are trash ( and they are ) where is the enjoyment of opening the boxes ? Variety is the spice of life after all. I got an Avenger III from a box
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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 7, 2017 0:26:13 GMT
HaHa... the more I sit and think about this patch, the more I feel like... Meanwhile, in Bioware's private jet...
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Post by cosmo on Apr 7, 2017 0:41:46 GMT
I noticed one more thing.... throw 5a lost its priming attribute. Not that anyone took it, but still, it's gone. Don't know if only the text or if the actual effect is gone as well, but keep it in mind if something possesses you to go that route
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Post by vomder on Apr 7, 2017 0:53:25 GMT
Every weapon still needs a 50% increase to damage. Even the fully automatic ones. Fire rate increase is meaningless. Only how much the bullet hit matters. 50%, I'd say 100%.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 7, 2017 1:03:06 GMT
I haven't played or read the notes, but I think "mostly bad, some positives" is Bioware's new slogan so I went with that.
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Post by xochipilli on Apr 7, 2017 1:05:11 GMT
I think it's judicious for them to buff conservatively at this early stage. If they overcompensate and buff too many things by too much now, it will just create problems for them further down the line.
However, this balance pass is quite piecemeal. There are no clearly identifiable criteria by which they based their attention; e.g. yes semiauto ARs are bad, but so are the other ARs. 90% of the weapons need buffs or bugfixing but it seems like they just drew lots from a hat to decide which of the small proportion of the number they would do something to. And whatever happened to the Mattock is redolent of the bizarre changes applied to the Vindicator in the first week of ME3 support.
Nothing on power balance is a deafening silence. Powers are not even strong enough on Bronze. It doesn't help that they eviscerated the trilogy's biotic repertoire for no clear reason. The strength of Mass Effect's combat compared to other similar games has always been the diversity in how you can approach it and there was a very good accretion of loadouts by the end of ME3's content cycle. They hit the reset button for some reason and most kits share one or more powers, with some abilities showing up far too often (e.g. Throw, Frag Grenade). Given the decrease in species diversity dictated by the constraints of the setting, it was imperative that loadout diversity be maintained to draw in as many players as possible, but this didn't happen.
Some of the bugfixes and changes to enemies are good and the few weapon buffs we did get are welcome. Hopefully the next patch is meatier based on the greater volume of telemetry they'll have.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 7, 2017 1:07:05 GMT
Every weapon still needs a 50% increase to damage. Even the fully automatic ones. Fire rate increase is meaningless. Only how much the bullet hit matters. 50%, I'd say 100%. I would be fine with that too. Anything better then the way it is now.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 7, 2017 1:20:17 GMT
Wow... Got killed by Sharpshooters 3 times today playing 3 games. Wow.... they shoot sharp. They will plant a big one behind your head when you least expect them....
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 7, 2017 2:13:36 GMT
First PuG I try to join, game crashes at wave 4. Yep, everything is fine. Guns still suck ass just like powers, melee is not decent anymore and game is still crap. May as well write a guide: "How to kill the multiplayer in the first patch" So when the next update's coming?
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Post by rolenka on Apr 7, 2017 2:19:29 GMT
The Kett could still use some tuning down. Especially the Ascendant, with his Jesus bubble and area ranged attack through walls and sync kill. But even the firepower of the Anointed and the speed of the dogs... it's just a brutal combination.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 7, 2017 3:49:38 GMT
I hate that they added a new ultra rare instead of buffing the existing ones. We need ultra rares that actually are worth using. Not just a quantity of bad ones. Allthough the inferno looks better than some of the old ultra rares we allready had 2 decent sniper ultra rares. How about buffing some of the ar's, pistols, shotguns (dhan is bad)? I dont wanna snipe every game. If i wanna snipe there are allready like 6-7 good gold worthy snipers in the game. Meanwhile there aren't 6-7 good weapons of the other archetypes combined.
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 7, 2017 3:56:35 GMT
I hate that they added a new ultra rare instead of buffing the existing ones. We need ultra rares that actually are worth using. Not just a quantity of bad ones. Allthough the inferno looks better than some of the old ultra rares we allready had 2 decent sniper ultra rares. How about buffing some of the ar's, pistols, shotguns (dhan is bad)? I dont wanna snipe every game. If i wanna snipe there are allready like 6-7 good gold worthy snipers in the game. Meanwhile there aren't 6-7 good weapons of the other archetypes combined. But... but... how are they going to keep the money coming in, then? People who have a ton of guns already might use them, rather than fruitlessly buy points in hopes of getting a drop that is not shit. OMG you want biower to fold or something? They are a business, it is completely legitimate for them to try to turn a profit!
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Post by awanger on Apr 7, 2017 5:11:01 GMT
my real, REAL problem with the patch is:
Shotguns Hesh: Ammo increased from 40-50 to 60-75.
that's it? do any of them even PLAY the game?? or use a shotgun? i don't care what the numbers in their tests say...the shotguns in game just don't function as shotguns. so what the hell are they?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 5:39:19 GMT
Now I'm getting some PS4 error kicking me from matches. Lol fucking fantastic
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 7, 2017 5:39:35 GMT
Well that Outlaw buff did absolutely nothing. After some sp action, I got lured back to with them 3 new APEX missions and then getting that new Salarian. But basically all I played today was mostly Outlaws, once in a blue moon Remnants, and not once did I play that other faction I can't even remember the name of anymore. Even when I find the ultra rare unknown/unknown, game is clearly trolling me because it ends up as Outlaws. Usually on that Zero Gravity map too, though sometimes SandGetsEverywhere map. On laggy hosts, the devices glitch hasn't been fixed. Basically the activation just slows down to a crawl and you're kicked off right before it finishes and have to keep mashing on it, same as before. Take like a 1.5 second break (or until you return to idle animation) before starting it again, this way you get more of it done, from my experiences, anyway. But BioWare didn't even do a real fix, as they must of noticed it usually kicks you off after halfwar point, so they just cut the time in half to do them so that halfway point where it usually kicks you off never happens. Good ol' duct tape fix BioWare programming at it's finest.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 7, 2017 5:48:22 GMT
Now I'm getting some PS4 error kicking me from matches. Lol fucking fantastic The game will blue screen no matter what, but if you are in a party chat with someone and playing the game with them it will blue screen 1 of you almost all of the time...at least in my experience. I have yet to play more than a few games with anyone I know. It's pug 4 life in ME: A....I don't even attempt to play with people anymore. Was hoping they would fix this. I guess not. I will say the first game I played after the patch was a bluescreen and it was a pug. I've only played 3 matches total since the patch so I will throw my experience with this in later as well. There are more than a few people reporting this. They might have broke something.
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 7, 2017 5:51:18 GMT
the shotguns in game just don't function as shotguns. so what the hell are they? Didn't you get the memo? They aren't really shot"guns" in this galaxy. They are sticks to slap your melee mod on, but that's too long winded. This is not 2003 anymore and every gun category has to have a distinct purpose -- not all are supposed to kill stuff you shoot at with them, that's boring. And yes, I'll have you know that they do play the game regularly. On Bronze. And they use at least 3-4 ops packs per match, so don't go around thinking that they are the kind of scrubs that never use consumables either. The nerve of some people...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 6:34:18 GMT
Now I'm getting some PS4 error kicking me from matches. Lol fucking fantastic The game will blue screen no matter what, but if you are in a party chat with someone and playing the game with them it will blue screen 1 of you almost all of the time...at least in my experience. I have yet to play more than a few games with anyone I know. It's pug 4 life in ME: A....I don't even attempt to play with people anymore. Was hoping they would fix this. I guess not. I will say the first game I played after the patch was a bluescreen and it was a pug. I've only played 3 matches total since the patch so I will throw my experience with this in later as well. There are more than a few people reporting this. They might have broke something. Nope all PUGs. Finished 1/5 matches due to this garbage. Did not happen once before patch. I'm rustled
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Post by DarthLinebacker on Apr 7, 2017 6:38:54 GMT
So the Carnifex isn't garbage now. Doing well for me on Silver.
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Post by aakko on Apr 7, 2017 8:50:14 GMT
I think Dahn is great now after the patch. The hit detection is much better now most likely because lag is better. And reloading is pretty fast too.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 7, 2017 8:56:11 GMT
I just had a few matches, it seemed okay, don't know... I hadn't played much of it before the patch though due to me not liking it so much.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 7, 2017 9:06:26 GMT
So there is still no point playing MP as a biotic. Got it.
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Post by kpeter on Apr 7, 2017 9:38:14 GMT
So there is still no point playing MP. Got it. Fixed it for ya
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Post by nanotm on Apr 7, 2017 9:39:37 GMT
You like gold you want a challenge you want platinum but you are bitching about the guns power. If you want to jump into gold almost from day one its not going to be a picnic. If things were as awful as you say no one would be beating gold. twoo weeks, twoooo weeeks the game has been out. You must be forgetting the beginning of Me3 when the carnifex and asari adept was 'the' class and gun to use. Hey, i am with you on a few issues, i have yet to find an assault rifle I have any use for at all but it's early in the process. Mate are you reading what im preaching ? If they drop Platimun tomorrow - people will be able to farm it by the evening. Been able to do something =/= that thing been fun. I like challenge, i like gold and i hope for higher difficulty like in ME3MP that mixes the races for extra fun. I also hope they make the basic units perform more actions like trowing nade's, using skills ect ect. Meaning making them smarter ( or increasing their spawn ) not making them bullet sponges as they are now. And im not bitching about OP guns im bitching about 90% of the guns been utter trash. How come most of my rare guns are above rank 6 and im yet to find anything to replace my Talon, Vanquisher and Equalizer ( dont even start me on ultra rares ) ? At what point by your standard is weapon supposed to start working ? Clearly not TWOOOOO WEEEEKS - tho i expected to be rank related not so much time related. I'm not asking for OP guns im asking for a selection of weapons i can bring to gold and not feel like im tickling the mooks. Also i find it extremely funny that currently we have exactly one shotgun (Piranha) that performs to any level worth mentioning and the rest of the shotguns are been used for mele ( lel ). And AR's are in even worst position as they cant even be used for mele. Even the Soned is sad sad gun. And something just as important. If vast majority of the guns are trash ( and they are ) where is the enjoyment of opening the boxes ? Variety is the spice of life after all. me3mp 4 guys started brand new accounts took the lvl 1 predator pistols with the shrikycans lvl1 on their lvl1 characters and did a platinum game on the modified fbw hazard map and won without using a single cobra missile or medigel just to prove the point that even the basic weapons were viable on higher difficulties..... this game those basic weapons aren't even viable on bronze never mind harder difficulties, hell even a predator x on an infiltrator with extended magazines evolution, ammo gear and pistol rail 3 cannot headshot kill a single unshielded mook without burning through an entire clip, that's not balanced, balanced would be 2or 3 headshots per kill, for the weapon to be viable, needing you to squeeze out 10>15 shots per kill is just dumb even for body shots it shouldn't be that many.....
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Post by book on Apr 7, 2017 9:44:49 GMT
Wow... Got killed by Sharpshooters 3 times today playing 3 games. Wow.... they shoot sharp. They will plant a big one behind your head when you least expect them.... Yeah, same. Most lobbies are still outlaw and i mostly just pug. I got cocky a few times, only to be put down by those pesky sharpshooters. I like it
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