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Post by Civ on Apr 6, 2017 16:11:26 GMT
Personally, I was sheltered from all news/information about ME1 when I played through it. When I met Sovereign, I was utterly shocked/interested/terrified(ikr?).
How about you guys?
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Post by Fogg on Apr 6, 2017 16:13:10 GMT
Wrong board
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Post by Civ on Apr 6, 2017 16:16:22 GMT
My bad. Should have referenced Kett-to-Reaper poll instead. Sorry!
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Post by Fogg on Apr 6, 2017 16:19:11 GMT
My bad. Should have referenced Kett-to-Reaper poll instead. Sorry! Still voted
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 6, 2017 17:04:05 GMT
That moment as well as that mission is when my obsession with the IP truly started
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Post by flyingovertrout on Apr 6, 2017 17:53:37 GMT
For me, the scene is one of those Great Mass Effect Moments that still stands the test of time. The first time was certainly a wow! thing, no doubt. But no matter how many times I've replayed it since, it still hits those marks. It's just perfectly orchestrated; the direction, Sovereign's voice and dialogue, the music, the revelations and how helpless they make you feel.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 6, 2017 17:56:45 GMT
For me, the scene is one of those Great Mass Effect Moments that still stands the test of time. The first time was certainly a wow! thing, no doubt. But no matter how many times I've replayed it since, it still hits those marks. It's just perfectly orchestrated; the direction, Sovereign's voice and dialogue, the music, the revelations and how helpless they make you feel. This. Was going to articulate my thoughts, but trout has pretty much spoken for me. Well said
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 6, 2017 18:04:26 GMT
For me, it was not so much about mind blown or "didn't see it coming" but more about how frigging awe inspiringly menacing that guy sounded and how his speech was written in way so that you would indeed feel small and insignificant before a mind with a perspective spanning billions of years.
Shepard's responses were dumb and sounded petty but that fit the scene perfectly.
In short, Sovereign is the quintessential Mass Effect moment for me and that moment, together with the ME1 endgame is the peak of that series.
And yea, wrong board.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 6, 2017 18:04:53 GMT
I figured we'd end up talking to a Reaper at some point., so the convo wasn't a huge surprise.
I wasn't all that impressed with some of the dialogue. Too much vague bluster, and I got the impression that the writers had no idea what the Reapers were and why they were doing what they do. Regrettably, I was right.
I'm not saying that the scene was bad. Just that, like much of ME, you can see the holes if you look.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 6, 2017 19:48:18 GMT
I chose "neat and cool," only because I played the games out of order so it didn't come as a surprise, necessarily. It was still awesome, though.
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Post by opuspace on Apr 7, 2017 5:49:31 GMT
I don't know, I wish I could have put my finger on why the revelation comes off as so lackluster. Maybe it's because there was already so much drama or that there wasn't enough build-up? I have no idea, only thing I can remember was how corny the following exchange between Shepard and Sovereign went. Hard to take something that deigns to trash talk an organism that's the equivalent of a roach to it seriously.
Now Shepard's last stand against indoctrinated Alliance while the reaper artifact was speaking was far more chilling. Shepard was going to go down, it was just a matter of how long it was going to be before the Commander would be curb-stomped by the one that pulled the strings all along. It was perfect in capturing the feel of what all the extinct races that failed to beat the cycles must have gone through.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:22:03 GMT
I was rather meh about that meeting. After all, they intentionally did a lot that reduce the impressiveness of the scene from what it could have been by using a "reduced in size" hologram of Sovereign and having the exchange take place with no other enemies in view. It was pretty clear that no battle was going to take place in that little room... just a bit of trash talk and bluster. I also openly guffawed at Shep's "machines can be broken" line... one of the dumbest lines in the whole trilogy, IMO.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 7, 2017 14:07:18 GMT
Was an interesting meeting at least. Setting up the bad guy and what they were like.
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Post by Darth Dennis on Apr 7, 2017 14:37:11 GMT
I was rather meh about that meeting. After all, they intentionally did a lot that reduce the impressiveness of the scene from what it could have been by using a "reduced in size" hologram of Sovereign and having the exchange take place with no other enemies in view. It was pretty clear that no battle was going to take place in that little room... just a bit of trash talk and bluster. I also openly guffawed at Shep's "machines can be broken" line... one of the dumbest lines in the whole trilogy, IMO. I liked it at first, but as time has gone on, I've thought more and more that someone like Obsidian could've done it a lot better. Like the Atris and 1st HK-50 conversations in kotor 2, for example. I don't mind the 'machines can be broken' line so much. It's bad, but it's not quite Benezia death scene/Jacob romance/Thessia confrontation bad, though, in my opinion.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Apr 9, 2017 21:10:25 GMT
I always think back to my first time every time I reach it.
My mind really was blown. When it started speaking I was really impressed and awe-struck. I didn't understand how it could be ship but also a sentient being at the same time. What was Sovereign exactly (a giant woodlouse)? Where did a million year old machine come from? And why was it doing what it was doing?
I understand the "holes" in the scene, but it still gives me goosebumps. One of the best moments in the game.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 13, 2017 1:24:07 GMT
I think Sovereign was impressive from the very first view when we saw video of it on Eden Prime. To me, it looked like a hand reaching down. Then when we saw how immense it was just after meeting Ash on Eden Prime, you could tell it was something really awesome (in the fearful sense). Finally, we Shepard talks to it - man, I could this sense that the universe worked in a fundamentally different way than my puny mind could comprehend. Could synthetics have somehow come first, I wondered? The way Sovereign spoke, it sounded like that was the case and that organics were mere by-products of environment. In any case, it seemed like something tremendously ancient and powerful (which was true).
I chose "Mind blown". That Shepard managed to defeat it spoke volumes about the Spectre.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 13, 2017 1:25:54 GMT
I figured we'd end up talking to a Reaper at some point., so the convo wasn't a huge surprise. I wasn't all that impressed with some of the dialogue. Too much vague bluster, and I got the impression that the writers had no idea what the Reapers were and why they were doing what they do. Regrettably, I was right. Funny enough, I interpreted it to mean that the Reapers were borderline unknowable and possibly a mechanism for the universe to allow new growth.
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Post by SimRahzel on Apr 17, 2017 10:20:03 GMT
That's one of the most stand out moments of the whole trilogy. Goosebumps every time
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 19:51:56 GMT
It was fantastic. Terrifying. Shepard's threats really seemed puny in that scene, which fits the theme that we're just meaningless ants to be trampled on to Sovereign. "Your words are as empty as your future." Great. Most of all that all that amazing technology, the mass relays, the Citadel as the pinnacle of galactic civilisation suddenly turns out to be just a giant mouse trap. What a turning point. Harbinger's dialogue at the end of Arrival was just so hugely disappointing after that.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 17, 2017 22:27:50 GMT
It was fantastic. Terrifying. Shepard's threats really seemed puny in that scene, which fits the theme that we're just meaningless ants to be trampled on to Sovereign. "Your words are as empty as your future." Great. Most of all that all that amazing technology, the mass relays, the Citadel as the pinnacle of galactic civilisation suddenly turns out to be just a giant mouse trap. What a turning point. Harbinger's dialogue at the end of Arrival was just so hugely disappointing after that. I agree, mainly because Sovereign seemed so all-powerful. Then we end up killing it. When Harbinger is essentially saying the same kind of stuff you can't help but think "I've killed one of these already, why not again?"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 22:49:20 GMT
My main problems with the Harbinger dialogue are:
- it's very short - nothing meaningful is said, no revelation, no turning point, nothing - his voice is not 10% as intimidating as Sovereign's - Harbinger had lost my respect long before with his childish taunts on the battlefield. He seemed really obsessed with me, for Sovereign I was just a gnat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 9:01:06 GMT
I thought Sovereign was really cool actually. Definitely intimidating and he made me feel like an insignificant bug which is always great. I can't say I was mind blown though so I chose Neat and Cool Idea.
Sovereign was much better than Harbinger for me too. Harbinger actually taunts Shepard and the squadmates which seems somewhat juvenile to me. So yeah Sovereign was awesome.
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Post by Beregond5 on Apr 24, 2017 17:27:45 GMT
I was intrigued by how a ship was possible to manipulate minds, and I did try to figure out how Saren was able to do it throughout the game. And then Sovereign spoke and I got a 'holy crap' moment. I totally agree with the people who consider it one of the best, if not the ultimate Mass Effect moment. Up until then, it was a pretty standard, albeit well-written, sci-fi game. (For the record: My second holy crap moment was this pic of the citadel tower. Never realised the similarity till it was pointed out to me.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 17:43:45 GMT
Damn that never occurred to me. Awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 0:23:29 GMT
I was intrigued by how a ship was possible to manipulate minds, and I did try to figure out how Saren was able to do it throughout the game. And then Sovereign spoke and I got a 'holy crap' moment. I totally agree with the people who consider it one of the best, if not the ultimate Mass Effect moment. Up until then, it was a pretty standard, albeit well-written, sci-fi game. (For the record: My second holy crap moment was this pic of the citadel tower. Never realised the similarity till it was pointed out to me.) Huh I can never unsee that...
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