it was never about the animations

Apr 7, 2017 7:31:18 GMT luckystarr said:

Can someone explain to me the significance of this fact and why it produces so much rant?

My bet is that the OP wants to call us bigots, and implies we have a problem with sexual minorities being in the game and we hide our bigotry and other memephobias behind 'bad animations' scapegoat.

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:39:17 GMT via mobile

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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 7, 2017 7:39:17 GMT

My bet is that the OP wants to call us bigots, and implies we have a problem with sexual minorities being in the game and we hide our bigotry and other memephobias behind 'bad animations' scapegoat.

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:41:42 GMT Qui-Gon GlenN7, Estaq99, and 1 more like this

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Post by suikoden on Apr 7, 2017 7:41:42 GMT

Apr 7, 2017 7:31:18 GMT luckystarr said:

Can someone explain to me the significance of this fact and why it produces so much rant?

My bet is that the OP wants to call us bigots, and implies we have a problem with sexual minorities being in the game and we hide our bigotry and other memephobias behind 'bad animations' scapegoat.

Well some people clearly do... Look at that thread from the other day that was shut down. Was filled with awfulness - especially that one assclown poster with the joker avatar.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:42:20 GMT

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Post by ioannisdenton on Apr 7, 2017 7:42:20 GMT

man.... inquisition is not perfect but its better than 90% of games this gen.
I ve poured 850 hours in its Sp and i kept finding details.
People pointing at hinterlands....
That map alone had more soul than the entire world of Nier automata (great music though!)
Hinterlands IS a great map.
People failing to play inquisition along the journal instead of following the map markers are at fault.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:44:56 GMT

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Post by solaxe on Apr 7, 2017 7:44:56 GMT

My bet is that the OP wants to call us bigots, and implies we have a problem with sexual minorities being in the game and we hide our bigotry and other memephobias behind 'bad animations' scapegoat.

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

The hell has Polish anything to do with it?

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:49:05 GMT Qui-Gon GlenN7 and Scraps like this

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Post by stysiaq on Apr 7, 2017 7:49:05 GMT

My bet is that the OP wants to call us bigots, and implies we have a problem with sexual minorities being in the game and we hide our bigotry and other memephobias behind 'bad animations' scapegoat.

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

I always thought you enjoy German language more, so I'm glad you asked.

I absolutely love my language because of how rich and poetic it is. The only sad thing about it is that it is really hard for foreigners to master because it's quite complex. Like, in German you have four forms of a noun - Akkusativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Nominativ, we have seven. The words can be long and oftentimes have clumps of hard consonants in them. Take for example a Polish word for "fractious" or "unruly" (usually used when talking about a child). It's "krnąbrny" (let google read it out for you). I love this word, but when you're a foreigner I doubt you'll ever use it because you'll never get the pronounciation right without living here for a number of years.

I just hope I do not embarass myself when I'm writing in English here, especially when I try to be funny and use lazy neologisms like "memephobias" which I used as a blanket term for all the trans- , islamo-, fat-, etc. words that are all the rage the last couple of years.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:50:14 GMT dagored and commandcodes like this

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Apr 7, 2017 7:44:56 GMT solaxe said:

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

The hell has Polish anything to do with it?

Nothing, Stardusk is just into linguistics, and (I presume) this is as good a thread as any to ask the question.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 7:52:07 GMT via mobile Rascoth, Anthreya, and 3 more like this

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Post by lynroy on Apr 7, 2017 7:52:07 GMT

Maybe I'll understand something after a few more drinks.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:05:05 GMT via mobile

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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 7, 2017 8:05:05 GMT

Apr 7, 2017 7:28:41 GMT stysiaq said:

Apr 7, 2017 6:36:48 GMT The Sith Emperor said:

What are you even trying to say? This is one of the most horribly-constructed opening posts I've ever seen.

I second this. I literally don't know who OP intends to attack other than the english language.

Hahahahahaha.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:06:04 GMT

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Post by bakgrind on Apr 7, 2017 8:06:04 GMT

Apr 7, 2017 6:35:50 GMT Sumerian Physics said:

I'm inclined to agree since I've been playing games for years and didn't really notice any bad animations. Yes there are things in this game that would look ridiculous if you were playing The Last of Us but this is also a game with a very stylized art direction that doesn't really attempt realism. It's like people genuinely don't understand that. It's closer to BioShock or Borderlands than The Last of Us or Uncharted

So yea I'm inclined to believe that a lot of the angst wasn't really about the animations. I'd say 20% real issues, 10% aantiBioWare Agenda 70% bandwagon effect

I think the anti Bioware agenda would be more than just 10% if you take into consideration the amount issues that have come to light for them over the past couple of titles. ME3 had it's issues and DAI was a buggy mess for a lot of people as launch as well. And the oldest title which has always caused Bioware grief for them and their fans is SWTOR. It doesn't help that the game is tanking hard right now. Players and former players view it as being used as a cash cow without Bioware putting in to much of anything back into the game. But one big mistake for them was shutting down their very on forums where they could of mitigated the damage from unhappy fans. Now people are voicing their displeasure all over the internet without anyway for them to staunch the flames and it becomes an out of control wild fire.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:17:15 GMT

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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 7, 2017 8:17:15 GMT

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

I always thought you enjoy German language more, so I'm glad you asked.

I absolutely love my language because of how rich and poetic it is. The only sad thing about it is that it is really hard for foreigners to master because it's quite complex. Like, in German you have four forms of a noun - Akkusativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Nominativ, we have seven. The words can be long and oftentimes have clumps of hard consonants in them. Take for example a Polish word for "fractious" or "unruly" (usually used when talking about a child). It's "krnąbrny" (let google read it out for you). I love this word, but when you're a foreigner I doubt you'll ever use it because you'll never get the pronounciation right without living here for a number of years.

I just hope I do not embarass myself when I'm writing in English here, especially when I try to be funny and use lazy neologisms like "memephobias" which I used as a blanket term for all the trans- , islamo-, fat-, etc. words that are all the rage the last couple of years.

Yes. It is fortunate one is born in Poland. Most Slavic languages (with the exception of Bulgarian) have elaborate case and gender systems. Still, there are more difficult languages for foreigners to learn. The real question is, is CD Projekt Red worth it, to justify learning Polish?

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:27:10 GMT

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Post by fade9wayz on Apr 7, 2017 8:27:10 GMT

Do you enjoy speaking Polish?

I always thought you enjoy German language more, so I'm glad you asked.

I absolutely love my language because of how rich and poetic it is. The only sad thing about it is that it is really hard for foreigners to master because it's quite complex. Like, in German you have four forms of a noun - Akkusativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Nominativ, we have seven. The words can be long and oftentimes have clumps of hard consonants in them. Take for example a Polish word for "fractious" or "unruly" (usually used when talking about a child). It's "krnąbrny" (let google read it out for you). I love this word, but when you're a foreigner I doubt you'll ever use it because you'll never get the pronounciation right without living here for a number of years.

I just hope I do not embarass myself when I'm writing in English here, especially when I try to be funny and use lazy neologisms like "memephobias" which I used as a blanket term for all the trans- , islamo-, fat-, etc. words that are all the rage the last couple of years.

Is it derived from latin as well? In latin you'd have only two more forms to the german's, vocative and ablative. Out of sheer curiosity, what would be the seventh in polish?

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:52:44 GMT kingmandu likes this

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Post by stysiaq on Apr 7, 2017 8:52:44 GMT

Apr 7, 2017 8:17:15 GMT Geitenneuker said:

I always thought you enjoy German language more, so I'm glad you asked.

I absolutely love my language because of how rich and poetic it is. The only sad thing about it is that it is really hard for foreigners to master because it's quite complex. Like, in German you have four forms of a noun - Akkusativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Nominativ, we have seven. The words can be long and oftentimes have clumps of hard consonants in them. Take for example a Polish word for "fractious" or "unruly" (usually used when talking about a child). It's "krnąbrny" (let google read it out for you). I love this word, but when you're a foreigner I doubt you'll ever use it because you'll never get the pronounciation right without living here for a number of years.

I just hope I do not embarass myself when I'm writing in English here, especially when I try to be funny and use lazy neologisms like "memephobias" which I used as a blanket term for all the trans- , islamo-, fat-, etc. words that are all the rage the last couple of years.

Yes. It is fortunate one is born in Poland. Most Slavic languages (with the exception of Bulgarian) have elaborate case and gender systems. Still, there are more difficult languages for foreigners to learn. The real question is, is CD Projekt Red worth it, to justify learning Polish?

CD Projekt Red has an international team, I believe. The language isn't a requirement in polish gamedev (Techland, CD Projekt and other big players), but it certainly helps. Being based in Warsaw and having a Masters in CS it's my dream job (though they don't have a stellar reputation as an employer), but I doubt I'll qualify this year or even the next one.

I mean, I wouldn't learn Polish just for a single company to have a full experience of their products either, especially now that Witcher games are over for the forseeable future. The deal with Witcher games and how organic everything feels like is that it's the franchise that people in their 20s and 30s grew up with. Same with the actual devs. Polish people just know Geralt of Rivia like you know a childhood friend, same with Ciri, Yen and others. It's the same kind of familiarity the international generation Y has with Harry Potter, but more intimate. That's why you can feel the passion the devs had for the characters and the Witcher world. Will CDPR be able to replicate it with Cyberpunk? Chances are they won't, so the next CDPR game will be a true test of creating an RPG in a world that we didn't grow up with (I mean, my cousing had a Cyberpunk rulebook when we were really young, but it wasn't a thing that you talked about with everyone in junior high).

So, all in all, it's a beautiful language, but I think that if I wasn't polish I probably wouldn't learn it.

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it was never about the animations Apr 7, 2017 8:55:08 GMT

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Post by stysiaq on Apr 7, 2017 8:55:08 GMT

Apr 7, 2017 8:27:10 GMT fade9wayz said: