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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 7, 2017 15:35:48 GMT
You actually do not lose much by doing this and you don't have worry, cowering in a corner, perpetually terrified that you will lose your "amazing" ascension mode. I believe that BW should do a work-around for ascension mode. Make it cost barrier, sure but make it permanent/toggleable. As it stands now it really is not worth investing in.
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Post by Sailears on Apr 7, 2017 15:45:38 GMT
One day in the next few years I might actually unlock this damn kit to test it for myself. I knew the store would troll me. :/
But from theorycrafting only I do see your point that it could be beneficial to ignore ascension mode and instead max everything else.
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Post by hieroglyph on Apr 7, 2017 15:47:00 GMT
Yeah, Ascension mode seems like something that looked great on paper but was never really tested in-game on higher difficulties. I mean making it drain shield and deactivate when your shield is depleted just handicaps what you can actually do. The damage resistance is great but since it relies on keeping your shield active it becomes entirely counterintuitive.
Ascension mode needs to operate on a timer like Blood Rage and it should not negate your skill cooldowns. So the only time a skill should drain your shield is if it is still on cooldown as this would be a free cast, not a normal one. This would make her more viable on Gold and make Ascension mode actually useful as you benefit from having shields, not get penalized for when they absorb damage.
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Post by ssg0rbino on Apr 7, 2017 15:48:24 GMT
I have it level 20 with 8 cards.
And I have to say I love it for my gold solo runs. I run it with the hurricane and thermal equip. I have noticed that sometimes ascending won't proc when I'm not host. I like ascension for the 100 DR, it's a unique class with lots of different ways to play it.
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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 7, 2017 15:48:52 GMT
One day in the next few years I might actually unlock this damn kit to test it for myself. I knew the store would troll me. :/ But from theorycrafting only I do see your point that it could be beneficial to ignore ascension mode and instead max everything else. From experience when you ascend you get hit hard and lose it fairly quickly, especially if you have an aggressive play style. It just isn't worth taking it for the minimal bonuses it gives you. It (ascension mode) needs a fundamental rework. Whether they do this or not, is anyone's guess. On another note, the Kineticist toon looks very cool imo. That is something.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 7, 2017 16:18:41 GMT
I don't even bother activating it on her. I'm too busy flinging mooks off the map and causing ammo power primed techsplosions with Lance.
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Post by isushi on Apr 7, 2017 17:04:31 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown?
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Post by gethadept on Apr 7, 2017 17:07:05 GMT
I will keep this post in mind. I don`t play any character until they are ranked X though. Don`t wanna play gimped lvl 20 character. Wish me luck so I can play UR characters within 2017.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 7, 2017 17:12:46 GMT
I choose option b: giving up on the character alltogether, at least untill they fix biotics. Even then I think the class will be bad on gold because all its powers are meant for red bar anemies. Feels bad that this is currently my highest level ultra rare....
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Post by Sailears on Apr 7, 2017 17:28:25 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown?
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 7, 2017 17:31:34 GMT
Damage reduction and no cool downs. Why on earth would you not want AM? I just can't even... Throwing thing after thing off the map is beyond fun... or even, if the damage is negligible, throwing a chair at a berserker...
Hurricane and priming ammo...
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 7, 2017 17:33:55 GMT
One day in the next few years I might actually unlock this damn kit to test it for myself. I knew the store would troll me. :/ But from theorycrafting only I do see your point that it could be beneficial to ignore ascension mode and instead max everything else. From experience when you ascend you get hit hard and lose it fairly quickly, especially if you have an aggressive play style. It just isn't worth taking it for the minimal bonuses it gives you. It (ascension mode) needs a fundamental rework. Whether they do this or not, is anyone's guess. On another note, the Kineticist toon looks very cool imo. That is something. What are you, standing in the open throwing powers at people and eating bullets? Play her like a squishy biotic....Take cover, throw off map, shoot lance, throw off map, move, hit, move hit, cover........if shields are getting low take cover to recharge them.... Not running AM on this character is just awful.
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Post by book on Apr 7, 2017 17:40:41 GMT
Yeah, you only lose 50 % damage reduction
/giantfacepalm
Pro tip: Use ascension. It is good.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 7, 2017 17:44:43 GMT
In addition you get a 20% damage boost to any weapons and powers from 5A, not only that but your teammates do 20% more damage too...
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Apr 7, 2017 17:58:12 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown? This right here, THIS SH** RIGHT HERE!!! Makes me want this character lol Had me laughing I almost spit out my tea
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Post by evilfluffmonster on Apr 7, 2017 18:04:23 GMT
Personally as an experienced noob, paradoxical though it is, I spec fully into ascension, Lance and Pull, leaving throw just for knocking characters off the map.
Ascension is good - even if you lose it straight away its boosted your damage a little and perhaps given a few cooldown-free blasts.
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Post by rolenka on Apr 7, 2017 18:05:12 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown? You can control where they fly with Lift??
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Post by roadkill on Apr 7, 2017 18:09:16 GMT
I wish she had singularity. >
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Post by isushi on Apr 7, 2017 18:18:48 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown? You can control where they fly with Lift?? Sort of... if you hold pull, they will fly towards you. If you let go of pull before you hold them in place, they will keep their momentum. Plus you always have throw if you want to want to go for a 3-pointer instead of a layup
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Post by crashsuit on Apr 7, 2017 18:25:46 GMT
I will keep this post in mind. I don`t play any character until they are ranked X though. Don`t wanna play gimped lvl 20 character. Wish me luck so I can play UR characters within 2017. There are effective and fun builds for kits even at rank 1. Just like in ME3MP, having game knowledge and decent gear can make up for using under-leveled characters.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 7, 2017 18:31:30 GMT
But how are you going to take out all the trash mobs with zero cooldown? This right here, THIS SH** RIGHT HERE!!! Makes me want this character lol Had me laughing I almost spit out my tea Thats nothing compared to launching them off the map....I mean launching like home run gone launching.........shit is sooooo much fun... I need an acolyte in my life.... strip shields and launch... I'm going to try some boosters and see if that last evolution can become strong enough to pull shielded enemies too....if it does....woo boy...
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Post by Sailears on Apr 7, 2017 19:50:23 GMT
I wish she had singularity. > I wish she had Backlash. Backlash/Pull/Throw would be so damn sexy (it is in singleplayer).
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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 7, 2017 22:15:06 GMT
Pull is such a fun power to use... I love to grab mooks from a distance, drag them along for a bit, punch them so they fly against a wall and then pump them full of bullets as they slide to the ground. Even the animations work just wonderfully well when you do that. Also when I see someone throw an enemy over a ledge, I quickly pull it back and punch it back into the abyss with my own fists. The only right way to steal kills.
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Post by shaundidrake on Apr 7, 2017 22:29:20 GMT
You actually do not lose much by doing this and you don't have worry, cowering in a corner, perpetually terrified that you will lose your "amazing" ascension mode. I believe that BW should do a work-around for ascension mode. Make it cost barrier, sure but make it permanent/toggleable. As it stands now it really is not worth investing in. I wish they can reduce the number of kills required for Ascension mode from 6 to something like 3 or 4...
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Post by isushi on Apr 7, 2017 22:40:26 GMT
You actually do not lose much by doing this and you don't have worry, cowering in a corner, perpetually terrified that you will lose your "amazing" ascension mode. I believe that BW should do a work-around for ascension mode. Make it cost barrier, sure but make it permanent/toggleable. As it stands now it really is not worth investing in. I wish they can reduce the number of kills required for Ascension mode from 6 to something like 3 or 4... You know you can spec into reducing the required kills to 4 right?
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