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Post by whanzephruseke on Apr 9, 2017 3:23:54 GMT
Putting this in the spoilers section because I expect that a certain story mission (as well as certain romances) might end up factoring into this discussion.
Do they really have one finger that's three times as wide as the other two, or is that just their mitten-gloves and they actually have five fingers like us? If so, how the hell is that a useful trait? It must take them forever to type.
Also, do they give birth to all of those kids one pregnancy at a time, or do they have litters? If the latter, then shouldn't the entire front of their torso be taken up by their mammary glands?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 3:32:01 GMT
They have 5 fingers like humans, but 3 are fused together. Haven't you seen Jaal naked?
They are mammals and Levo, but they don't get too into the birthing process in the game, but they can have many. Also they are bioelectric and where I think it was mass effect fields (Cora's LM) gives a biotic a headache, it makes an Angara's skin tingle.
Everything is mostly explained in a codex entry.
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Post by whanzephruseke on Apr 9, 2017 3:45:16 GMT
Yeah, but I was too busy staring at his ass to notice his hands.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 3:47:09 GMT
LMAO! I saw it a lot thanks to romancing him, but yeah, he has a thumb and index finger and the last 3 are fused.
Also it seems Angara need the sunlight to keep going. If not they "go dark" and can get sick easily.
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 9, 2017 9:56:51 GMT
I don't think we ever see an angaran woman naked, so it could be that they do have that many mammary glands and the males just don't reflect that trait (since we do see Jaal naked), considering how noticeable the sexual dimorphism is otherwise. I also think the number of kids might often seem a bit inflated because they call people brothers and sisters who might be children of some of their other mothers? But that's just conjecture.
Since we're already discussing angara, did they ever explain why the angara seem to have many mothers, but only one father? Possible cultural reasons I came up with is that the angara used to be a harem culture (of the one husband/multiple wives sort) but only kept certain traits of that as they shed that idea, one of which was that it's normal to have many female attachment figures growing up. Another reason could be that they don't value the father's input into the children's education as much and that's why they don't need many fathers (or really any). I guess it could be that fathers are more likely to work and women more likely to stay at home, but I really didn't see any angara house-wives (could be another old left-over of some former gender disparity). Also, Jaal said angara share their "parents", so... I'm confused, lol.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 9, 2017 9:58:40 GMT
People: mammals are an earth thing. Aliens could be mammal-like, but they would never be mammals unless, by magic, they had identical evolutionary histories.
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 9, 2017 10:57:05 GMT
What does Angaran skin feel like, are they previously aquatic mammals (mammal like, w/e) or are they land dwelling?
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 9, 2017 11:23:10 GMT
What does Angaran skin feel like, are they previously aquatic mammals (mammal like, w/e) or are they land dwelling? Their heads look pretty streamlined and the three fingers grown together could imply that their hands evolved from something that was designed to effectively push water out of the way. However, since they are intelligently designed, it's hard to say what the blueprint was. If you touch an angara and they are angry, could they actually give you a small electric shock on purpose or does the control over their bioelectric field not extend that far?
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 9, 2017 11:52:47 GMT
What does Angaran skin feel like, are they previously aquatic mammals (mammal like, w/e) or are they land dwelling? Their heads look pretty streamlined and the three fingers grown together could imply that their hands evolved from something that was designed to effectively push water out of the way. However, since they are intelligently designed, it's hard to say what the blueprint was. If you touch an angara and they are angry, could they actually give you a small electric shock on purpose or does the control over their bioelectric field not extend that far? All animals that have control over their bioelectric properties are aquatic dwelling animals, so this is supported I guess. Baby angara learning how to control their bioelectrity tho @_@ Baby angara in general whanzephruseke The popular theory is that they have multiple children during one birth, given how large anagaran families are
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Post by shechinah on Apr 9, 2017 12:26:01 GMT
whanzephruseke The popular theory is that they have multiple children during one birth, given how large anagaran families are I wouldn't be surprised if that came about as a result of their conflict with the kett considering how many angara they might be losing either to the toll of the war or to kett abductions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
I don't think we ever see an angaran woman naked, so it could be that they do have that many mammary glands and the males just don't reflect that trait (since we do see Jaal naked), considering how noticeable the sexual dimorphism is otherwise. I also think the number of kids might often seem a bit inflated because they call people brothers and sisters who might be children of some of their other mothers? But that's just conjecture. Since we're already discussing angara, did they ever explain why the angara seem to have many mothers, but only one father? Possible cultural reasons I came up with is that the angara used to be a harem culture (of the one husband/multiple wives sort) but only kept certain traits of that as they shed that idea, one of which was that it's normal to have many female attachment figures growing up. Another reason could be that they don't value the father's input into the children's education as much and that's why they don't need many fathers (or really any). I guess it could be that fathers are more likely to work and women more likely to stay at home, but I really didn't see any angara house-wives (could be another old left-over of some former gender disparity). Also, Jaal said angara share their "parents", so... I'm confused, lol. Many mothers don't give birth, they simply share the children it seems. One father helps produce them, but then each female Angara brought into the home becomes a mother to look after them, but most of the males are out fighting, and some females too. Heck their children help fight too. So if a male Angara and female Angara have 4 kids, and his brother and brother's wife have 4 kids, both females become mothers to them, making it like raising 8 children.
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Post by LogicGunn on Apr 9, 2017 18:30:24 GMT
Putting this in the spoilers section because I expect that a certain story mission (as well as certain romances) might end up factoring into this discussion. Do they really have one finger that's three times as wide as the other two, or is that just their mitten-gloves and they actually have five fingers like us? If so, how the hell is that a useful trait? It must take them forever to type. Also, do they give birth to all of those kids one pregnancy at a time, or do they have litters? If the latter, then shouldn't the entire front of their torso be taken up by their mammary glands? Most mammalian females only have nipples, the ones that do develop breast tissue generally only do so when breast feeding or in oestrus. Humans are a bit queer having breast tissue all the time. So the chances of another species with mammalian features having an entire torso of visible breast tissue is...unlikely. And best left in the imagination of people who've just hit puberty. I suspect their birth process is vastly different.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 18:32:28 GMT
Putting this in the spoilers section because I expect that a certain story mission (as well as certain romances) might end up factoring into this discussion. Do they really have one finger that's three times as wide as the other two, or is that just their mitten-gloves and they actually have five fingers like us? If so, how the hell is that a useful trait? It must take them forever to type. Also, do they give birth to all of those kids one pregnancy at a time, or do they have litters? If the latter, then shouldn't the entire front of their torso be taken up by their mammary glands? Most mammalian females only have nipples, the ones that do develop breast tissue generally only do so when breast feeding or in oestrus. Humans are a bit queer having breast tissue all the time. So the chances of another species with mammalian features having an entire torso of visible breast tissue is...unlikely. And best left in the imagination of people who've just hit puberty. A female Angara scanning Ryder says on the outside they have similar bodies, but the birthing process I'm not sure of since when that human woman has a baby Jaal freaks out a bit.
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Post by whanzephruseke on Apr 9, 2017 18:46:43 GMT
People: mammals are an earth thing. Aliens could be mammal-like, but they would never be mammals unless, by magic, they had identical evolutionary histories. Nope, in-game dialogue and codex entries explicitly state that many of the alien species (including angara) are mammalian. There's a bit of hand waving in the original trilogy about how convergent evolution in the Milky Way might have been due to reaper and/or prothean meddling, but it doesn't help explain why angara would be similar, and there are a few mentions in the game about how this is strange. Perhaps the Jardaan also have a connection to the Milky Way?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 18:51:04 GMT
People: mammals are an earth thing. Aliens could be mammal-like, but they would never be mammals unless, by magic, they had identical evolutionary histories. Nope, in-game dialogue and codex entries explicitly state that many of the alien species (including angara) are mammalian. There's a bit of hand waving in the original trilogy about how convergent evolution in the Milky Way might have been due to reaper and/or prothean meddling, but it doesn't help explain why angara would be similar, and there are a few mentions in the game about how this is strange. Perhaps the Jardaan also have a connection to the Milky Way? The Jardaan also might have made the Angara after their own appearance.
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Post by whanzephruseke on Apr 9, 2017 19:10:37 GMT
Additional observations:
Jaal distinguishes between siblings and cousins, so it would seem that all of what he considers his "siblings" at least share the same father.
Jaal says that the angara can use bioelectric signals to communicate. The flavor text for Jaal's skills also suggests that his tech abilities stem from his bioelectric control. So yes, an angry angara could absolutely shock you, perhaps even from a distance.
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Post by timebean on Apr 9, 2017 23:08:31 GMT
If an angaran "goes dark", does he/she die? (not sure if they mention that in the game...)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 23:10:00 GMT
If an angaran "goes dark", does he/she die? (not sure if they mention that in the game...) No they just get sick easily. Death from sickness might happen since without the sun they can't recover.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 10, 2017 0:17:25 GMT
If an angaran "goes dark", does he/she die? (not sure if they mention that in the game...) No they just get sick easily. Death from sickness might happen since without the sun they can't recover. On the bright side, you won't have as many basement dwelling brooding angaara teenagers.
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Post by blastoandbubin on Apr 10, 2017 1:52:32 GMT
Most mammalian females only have nipples, the ones that do develop breast tissue generally only do so when breast feeding or in oestrus. Humans are a bit queer having breast tissue all the time. So the chances of another species with mammalian features having an entire torso of visible breast tissue is...unlikely. And best left in the imagination of people who've just hit puberty. A female Angara scanning Ryder says on the outside they have similar bodies, but the birthing process I'm not sure of since when that human woman has a baby Jaal freaks out a bit. Yeah, given that the codex explicitly calls them warm-blooded mammals and that one angaran lady says that angara and humans are physiologically very similar on the outside, I assumed angaran mothers do nurse their children, even if they don't have overtly visible breasts in the same way we do (which, like logicqunn said, isn't unusual.) I figure they probably have nipples and either very little to no breast tissue until they're breast feeding (assuming they develop it at all) or rather flat/small breasts that get a bit more prominent when they're actively nursing and which, under clothing, would look like nothing. And lol, honestly, the birth process might not even be that different. Some humans get freaked out by human birth, after all. Jaal may just have never been around a live birth before, even as large as his family is (actually, is he around a live birth? I've never done that quest so I have no context for his freak out, lol.) ...and I can't believe I just made a post about alien boobs. Thanks, Bioware.
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 10, 2017 5:00:59 GMT
Most mammalian females only have nipples, the ones that do develop breast tissue generally only do so when breast feeding or in oestrus. Humans are a bit queer having breast tissue all the time. So the chances of another species with mammalian features having an entire torso of visible breast tissue is...unlikely. And best left in the imagination of people who've just hit puberty. A female Angara scanning Ryder says on the outside they have similar bodies, but the birthing process I'm not sure of since when that human woman has a baby Jaal freaks out a bit. To be fair to Jaal, I was also freaking out a bit during that mission, like she was giving birth while being fired on, that's terrifying on a best day. Angara may be like playtpi or echnidas, where they 'secrete' milk instead of having breast tissue.
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 10, 2017 5:01:53 GMT
No they just get sick easily. Death from sickness might happen since without the sun they can't recover. On the bright side, you won't have as many basement dwelling brooding angaara teenagers. unless they drag one of those lamps into their basements.
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