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Post by Cerberusx32 on Apr 10, 2017 6:10:52 GMT
So if you beat the game you know that the Quarian Ark is in Andromeda...supposedly, from the transition. Now if you recall they are telling you to NOT to go find them. Now at first glance you might be thinking there's something wrong with the their ship or something simple. Wrong, if you recall the Arks left the Milky Way in 2185, which is in between Mass Effect 2 and 3.
The only thing that makes sense is that the other Arks left just in time to escape the Reapers. But it's possible that the Reapers found out about the Arks and sent a few ships (more then likely one Dreadnought) to pursue the fleeing Arks. The Quarians and the other Arks, would have still been close enough to the Milky Way to get transitions, both audio and video of the Reaper war in the Milky Way. So they know what going on.
The only thing that makes sense, why the Quarians don't want to be found is so the Reapers are not lead to the other Arks, Nexus and the planets. The Initiative has no way of dealing with the Reapers. Even with Ryder using the Remnant. Unless of course the ones who secretly funded the Initiative also brought some WMDS with.
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Post by kumazan on Apr 10, 2017 9:41:55 GMT
I hope not. Because from that one of two things follow: either we never get to see the rest of our MW pals again ( ) or we have Reapers in Andromeda, which would kinda defeat the purpose of the new setting for a variety of reasons. I think it's rather that the Quarians et al have found a native Andromedan threat, be it the Kett, problems with the Scourge, or preferably a new one, and that's what we'll help them deal with in future content. Here's hoping anyway.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 10, 2017 10:08:26 GMT
Aren't you people tired from Reapers? Even a little bit? What's the need to drag them into Andromeda?
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Post by mograximus on Apr 10, 2017 11:08:07 GMT
Who are the Jaraad? A 'Prothean' type race? Except the reapers prevented anyone from evolving to that level I think, so an even more powerful species I'd guess. Is the scourge a result of an ancient war within the galaxy? Or are they a result of a hyper advanced reaper like species attempting to mitigate organic evolution (please no, been there done that) And where do the Kett fit in? Are they post Jaraad, but still a galaxy traveling civilization that is the most powerful living force to be reckoned with? Or are they more recent than they lead on? With all that "we've uplifted thousands of species" stuff the archon was saying, it seems the Kett are close to the level of the Jeraad in terms of species evolution. Maybe not quite there but close?
Many questions. Much interest Such unknown.
Either way, I'm certain the reapers themselves have nothing to do with this story line. It was made explicitly clear they were a milkyway specific threat, and Bioware made it clear this is a separate story.
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 10, 2017 11:13:32 GMT
I hope not. Because from that one of two things follow: either we never get to see the rest of our MW pals again ( ) or we have Reapers in Andromeda, which would kinda defeat the purpose of the new setting for a variety of reasons. I think it's rather that the Quarians et al have found a native Andromedan threat, be it the Kett, problems with the Scourge, or preferably a new one, and that's what we'll help them deal with in future content. Here's hoping anyway. My money is on a new type of Kett enemy. Maybe a two second reference to Reapers. I don't mind Reapers but given all this 'attempted' foresight into the Kett and exhalation and the Remnant, seems kind of stupid to throw it all away for "LET'S BRING BACK THE OLD ENEMY" Seriously, Andromeda got enough of its own problems.
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Post by vyndral on Apr 10, 2017 12:11:05 GMT
Who are the Jaraad? A 'Prothean' type race? Except the reapers prevented anyone from evolving to that level I think, so an even more powerful species I'd guess. Is the scourge a result of an ancient war within the galaxy? Or are they a result of a hyper advanced reaper like species attempting to mitigate organic evolution (please no, been there done that) And where do the Kett fit in? Are they post Jaraad, but still a galaxy traveling civilization that is the most powerful living force to be reckoned with? Or are they more recent than they lead on? With all that "we've uplifted thousands of species" stuff the archon was saying, it seems the Kett are close to the level of the Jeraad in terms of species evolution. Maybe not quite there but close? Many questions. Much interest Such unknown. Either way, I'm certain the reapers themselves have nothing to do with this story line. It was made explicitly clear they were a milkyway specific threat, and Bioware made it clear this is a separate story. I hope you are right. But they also made it clear that this game was going to be more about exploring and less about defeating some galactic threat, where you had to save everyone.... and yet he were are. Having just saved everyone in the cluster.
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Post by davkar on Apr 10, 2017 16:16:55 GMT
I really don't like that teaser in the epilogue. When Tann first mentioned the quarian ark packed with the other mw races I rolled my eyes, but I thought that since they didn't leave in time they were destroyed when the reapers arrived. That's the end of it. Sadly a (few) reaper flagship pursuing them would make sense. "Yo Larry, check this out. Let Harb have his fun on Earth we'll follow these guys!" But I hope this isn't the case and their ship just ran into a super scourge or the jardaan or the jardaan's enemy. Or maybe the eclor woke up early and killed the volus and the hanar and when Ryder arrives for their rescue they can only save the quarians and the drell.
Seriously, obvious fanservice is obvious. The whole AI was a stupid concept but the acceptable kind. The big 4 (+krogan) made some sense. They should have added the quarians as part of initial wave with a few exploration vessels and the drell (3-5+ thousand strong) could have hitched a ride with one of the arks or the nexus itself. They are the important species anyway, who needs the rest? I won't be surprised if it's revealed that there are vorcha stowaways in the storage hold too...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 18:01:08 GMT
If you think about it, quarian ark is probably just the other ark.
It isn't made for quarians it's made for everyone (except batarians and Vorcha who are gone for a while at least), but it's called quarian ark because it has a quarian pathfinder.
And I think some Geth came to Andromeda behind them so the quarian pathfinder wants to kill all the Geth. We get there and need to prove that AI's aren't all bad (in MEA2 or dlc I don't know.)
Quarians should have been here all along, but bringing quarians means bringing Geth and they weren't ready for that. Even though Ekcor, Drell, Quarians, and geth all get mentioned.
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Post by sentinel-shep-paragon on Apr 10, 2017 19:48:24 GMT
I think it could be possible that they will do a one-shot DLC where some Reaper ground units maybe made their way onto the Quarian Ark as they were making their late launch (which would put them right at the start of the Reaper invasion if their delay was any more than 6 months). Maybe they have the stow-aways quarantined somewhere on a lower deck, you go in to deal with them, and that is that. This way the reapers still aren't really a part of Andromeda, but they can still be referenced and perhaps bring up some interesting speculation on the part of the Initiative about what happened to the Milky Way.
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Post by vyndral on Apr 10, 2017 19:57:29 GMT
Plot twist! The Quarian Ark IS a reaper! The cryo pods were really the mush making pods we save Kelly from! And the first DLC will involve us fighting a Quarian/Drell/Elcor/Hanar Reaper that was constructed from their DNA on the 600 year flight. Leaked footage of the final fight seems to involve triggering SAM to make you sneeze on the Quarian part of the Reaper to infect and kill it.
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Post by shermos on Apr 11, 2017 4:55:29 GMT
It's probably got something to do with the Geth. The space magic FTL telescope the Initiative used to examine Andromeda was built by them. Why would the Geth go to the trouble of hauling mass relays around to build this telescope, and not then go there themselves? The writers appear keen to introduce all the major Milky Way species into Andromeda and I don't see why they would be excluded.
It makes logical sense the Reapers found out about the Initiative and sent a few ships to do clean up work, but I'm pretty sure the devs have made it clear the Reaper story is over. One would think previous cycles have tried to escape to Andromeda before and that the Reapers would be prepared for this contingency. Logic isn't MEA's strong suit anyway.
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Post by iTz JoNeSy on Apr 11, 2017 6:28:16 GMT
If the reapers did send ships after the ark, then the ark wouldn't of made it anywhere near andromeda. Reaper ships are a lot faster than standard FTL ships. Fast enough to fly through the ark faster than light or just beam the fucker to oblivion. A 600 year journey with a reaper ship that is capable of doing 1000+ light years per day? And you in a ark doing 50 light years per day? Not a chance. I am getting tired of these crappy new aliens fucking with the arks though. I want the nexus to look nice! 😒
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Post by shermos on Apr 11, 2017 14:09:38 GMT
Ships can't be tracked in FTL and can't be attacked in FTL last time I checked the lore. The Reapers could be there waiting, but they couldn't intercept mid flight.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 11, 2017 14:32:21 GMT
Ships can't be tracked in FTL and can't be attacked in FTL last time I checked the lore. The Reapers could be there waiting, but they couldn't intercept mid flight. Well, tell that to Archon, who was able to pinpoint exact location Tempest will be going through and Asari Ark, which apparently was followed and harassed by Kett ship.
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Post by luke on Apr 11, 2017 16:01:40 GMT
I was under the impression that the Arks left during the events of ME2.
I'm assuming the threat to the Quarian ark is either a Kett trap, some kind of incident with the Jardaan, or an encounter with a new threat (new species?).
I'll be very surprised if the Quarian ark sub-plot isn't the first DLC. I'll be just as surprised if it doesn't come with a Quarian squadmate, that would be a missed opportunity.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 11, 2017 16:44:39 GMT
No. Just no.
The Reaper's are done. They were a great enemy for 3 games. But there done.
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Post by timebean on Apr 11, 2017 16:49:45 GMT
Hope not...I think there are far more interesting enemies that we could face.
- the Kett empire (not just the nutty archon and his personal minions, but the whole damned empire) - whoever created the scourge - the Jaardan - some other twiested race the Jaardan created - other?
Also - just a side note - I have a feeling that the gal we meet in the epilouge on Meridian (the one with Vas in her name, who suggests she was raised by quarians) will be a new squad mate in the next game.
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Post by vyndral on Apr 11, 2017 16:50:05 GMT
OH SHIT!
The Kett exalted a Reaper!
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Post by zallister on Apr 13, 2017 7:11:41 GMT
What Quarian Ark?
If the writers want Quarians in Andromeda, they should be on the Nexus like the Krogans.
The Quarians are only 17million People, to billions of the council races.
The Quarians are poor: They don´t have enough Money to build an ark.
The Quarians start a war with the Geth. If they had an Ark, the Admirals would take it for war, if not active, then as a safe place for quarian children.
If the Quarians survive Geth and Reaper war, don´t you think the quarians will recolonize their Homeworld than go on a trip to Andromeda?
There are many Argument´s against a Quarian Ark, but logic was never a obstacle for the writers.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 13, 2017 8:15:24 GMT
It's the Batarians I tell ya! They're going to show the Kett how you build a real evil autocratic slaving empire.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 13, 2017 9:39:40 GMT
If the writers want Quarians in Andromeda, they should be on the Nexus like the Krogans. The Quarians are only 17million People, to billions of the council races. The Quarians are poor: They don´t have enough Money to build an ark. The Quarians start a war with the Geth. If they had an Ark, the Admirals would take it for war, if not active, then as a safe place for quarian children. If the Quarians survive Geth and Reaper war, don´t you think the quarians will recolonize their Homeworld than go on a trip to Andromeda? Didn't have time to make them on release. A few thousands are easy to spare. Game doesn't say that quarians funded it. Again, quarian Admirals have no word on this, that's Initiative's Ark. Other species don't even have such problems with colonization and yet here they are. There is single (in-game, I mean) argument for all species to be there - preservation. Whoever Benefactor is, they still cared about multitude of MW species, even those who were thrown out from Citadel. Except batarians, nobody likes batarians.
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Post by laxian on Apr 13, 2017 17:26:44 GMT
I hope not. Because from that one of two things follow: either we never get to see the rest of our MW pals again ( ) or we have Reapers in Andromeda, which would kinda defeat the purpose of the new setting for a variety of reasons. I think it's rather that the Quarians et al have found a native Andromedan threat, be it the Kett, problems with the Scourge, or preferably a new one, and that's what we'll help them deal with in future content. Here's hoping anyway. I hope so - maybe they found what has the Kett exalting everybody (I mean you don't start doing this without a reason...except if you are a mad genocidal bastard!) greetings LAX
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Post by zallister on Apr 13, 2017 20:25:57 GMT
The war between the Quarians and the Geth wasn´t a Little advendure like Vietnam, or the gulf wars. It was a full scale war like world war 2! If the quarian Admirals say that the Ark is confiscated for war than it is.
The only Thing I can imagine is, that the ark is build in Hanar or Elcor space and the quarian high command haven´t Access to it, but there would be still the Problem, how many quarians would be left as Crew after high command call for war? Other question is, does the quarian Ark made it before the Reaper Invasion?
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 13, 2017 20:42:24 GMT
Nah.
They've found Andromeda's Catalyst.
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Post by Serza on Apr 14, 2017 19:48:12 GMT
OH SHIT! The Kett exalted a Reaper! ENOUGH! I need to sleep tonight! What Quarian Ark? If the writers want Quarians in Andromeda, they should be on the Nexus like the Krogans. The Quarians are only 17million People, to billions of the council races. The Quarians are poor: They don´t have enough Money to build an ark. The Quarians start a war with the Geth. If they had an Ark, the Admirals would take it for war, if not active, then as a safe place for quarian children. If the Quarians survive Geth and Reaper war, don´t you think the quarians will recolonize their Homeworld than go on a trip to Andromeda? There are many Argument´s against a Quarian Ark, but logic was never a obstacle for the writers. There's a couple arguments that debunk... oh, yeah, ALL OF YOURS. As said. The war between the Quarians and the Geth wasn´t a Little advendure like Vietnam, or the gulf wars. It was a full scale war like world war 2! If the quarian Admirals say that the Ark is confiscated for war than it is. The only Thing I can imagine is, that the ark is build in Hanar or Elcor space and the quarian high command haven´t Access to it, but there would be still the Problem, how many quarians would be left as Crew after high command call for war? Other question is, does the quarian Ark made it before the Reaper Invasion? Little adventure? You need to shut the fuck up. Now. You're disrespecting the people who fought in those conflicts.
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