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Post by themikefest on Aug 31, 2016 22:11:43 GMT
They're giant metal detectors so that no one has any weapons onboard. hahahahaha
I like what was said above that they could be what is used to build the ships. They have an auto-pilot in it to move back and forth to work on whatever part of the ship.
If that's what they're for, I would be interested why they weren't seen when the game showed the crucible being built? Yes I know its not a ship, but still it was massive so having something like that would most likely make it easier to build and most likely quicker quicker. I don't know.
I am looking forward to seeing/hearing the explanation for everything that is seen in the trailer.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 31, 2016 22:25:51 GMT
Nonono. All of you are misunderstanding my point. If we all go to the same galaxy's cluster of stars and aliens are hostile, what then? Well, we would go into full on war mode or retreat mode. Neither is a very good situation for us. War mode is bad because it means that we have extremely limited resources and extremely limited manpower, and no way to call for backup. Retreat mode would be bad because if they're already hostile, what's going to stop them from chasing us down on their own turf? My first concern about these ships going to another galaxy is what defense systems will they have. If they don't have what is needed to defend the ship, they're dead. They still could be dead if vastly outnumbered and the enemies firepower is like nothing seen before. Even if the hostile species destroys one of them in a cluster, what's to stop them from destroying another in a different cluster? I don't agree. With them together, they have a better chance of defending themselves especially if it is a single ship that is attacking.
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Post by goishen on Aug 31, 2016 22:33:04 GMT
I mean, the possibility is there, yes. But with the lack of resources (remember, we can only carry what we bring on our backs) and the lack of backup it is highly unlikely that we'll get that ship before it gets a message off in the worst case, or gets away in the best case (and then brings in even more backup). Plus, I think of the Arks more as a massive APC. Not really used for assault.
With my scenario, we don't know what the star clusters are called so we can call them Abitron 1, Abitron 2, and Abitron 3. The aliens would have no idea of what we were talking about. Plus, if we split up soon enough, we could not even know where the others go.
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Post by KirkyX on Sept 2, 2016 17:38:35 GMT
Addendum pursuant to my previous comment:
A ridiculously gratuitous space scene in which we steal Tempest, for whatever reason, would be very much appreciated as well. (I know we technically nicked Normandy at the end of ME1, but all we got space-porn-wise was the standard undock cutscene.)
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 2, 2016 18:59:58 GMT
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Those rings could be the necessary energy boosters to get the ARKs going.
I can't see them as construction platforms. Those need to cover the whole ARK.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 2, 2016 19:12:58 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Those rings could be the necessary energy boosters to get the ARKs going. I can't see them as construction platforms. Those need to cover the whole ARK. Why do they need to cover the whole ark?
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 2, 2016 20:16:43 GMT
Sure, I get what you are saying Sartoz. In Star Trek, the starship construction yards have frameworks that encompass the ship they are building, the same as the dry docks for the naval ships you referenced. So the rings wouldn't really fit that same type of structure. However, in the scenes in ME3 showing the construction of the Crucible, there was not any kind of construction platform that I could see. So in ME it does not appear that they use that type of platform when building things in space. Possibly... But the ARKs look pretty much done in the clip anyway, so it could be for doing finishing work, getting people on board, or the power supply to jump-start them, like you said. I have very much been enjoying the different theories people have on this topic!
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Post by themikefest on Sept 2, 2016 20:20:12 GMT
Yes I know. Are you suppose to see crews? Are you suppose to see power cables? Looking at the scene, the ring is at the end suggesting its purpose has been fulfilled and ships are ready for takeoff. hahaha. The ships seen most likely have all the supplies onboard along with everything else that is needed, The shuttles flying towards them could be the last few folks traveling to Andromeda. Once onboard, the ships go to Andromeda
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Post by rapscallioness on Sept 2, 2016 21:37:36 GMT
Okay, so, these Arks are being "prepped" above Earth; Mac talked about the people going are volunteers/recruits going for different reasons..so, no "escape the Reapers" theme going on?
The PaxWest and general BW ad themes have been about recruitment by the Systems Alliance (and I'm assuming this is actually relevant to MEA and not just rehashing N7 propaganda, etc. But it does coincide with the idea that the passengers being volunteers/recruits. Colonists like we've seen in the trilogy all deciding to go to the outskirts for different reasons). There were also those art posters of "Explorers Wanted" awhile back.
So the PathFinder project really seems to be a military project by the human Systems Alliance. Which would go along with the idea of searching for a new home for Humanity specifically in the survey leak. Or at least this part of it. It could still be a multi species project, however, we're focused on the human aspect because the PC is human.
Also, iirc, Mac intimated that we were leaving before (well before) the events of ME3. Which goes along with the more relaxed reasons for going. And would explain why all this is not interfering with the Crucible project.
There was mention once of a Krogan colony ship, so maybe each species that's going has their own Ark serving as an adapted homeworld. And they are rendezvousing at Earth...?
The Tempest could be a multi species vessel itself going out scouting, even though these species have their own colony ships. We saw the Krogan and Salarian by the PC in one of the trailers. But they all have their own agendas and priorities going out.
This may launch off during the time Shep is dead in ME2.
I wonder if we'll get a chance to see the ME version of future Earth before we go?
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Post by Moghedia on Sept 3, 2016 17:15:21 GMT
What I've been wondering is why the Arks don't use the Citadel relay to jump to dark space, at least they will have a little head start...
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Post by Adhin on Sept 3, 2016 21:02:24 GMT
Timeline Moghedia, timeline. While the Council and the System Alliance higher ups know what Shepards know (and mostly believe him) his brain being the only evidence (eye witness) is what ultimately lead them to saying Sovereign was a new Geth ship. It's why the mass public doesn't know about the Reapers till ME3, it's why no one knows the Citadel can double as a giant relay.
We don't actually 'use' the Citadel as a Relay in the ME universe, only the Reapers do (or did, prior to are cycle, thanks racist enslaving Protheans). So we don't use it because well, I guess 2 reasons. One, the public doesn't know about it and that would be a pretty big 'oh shit' moment. Also it leads to another relay out where all the freakin' Reapers are. So, you know, even if everyone knew about it publicly no one would ever do that cause Reapers.
Also just getting to the edge of deep space of are galaxy is like 1% or less of the distance needing to be traveled. Getting out of the milky way is barely a drop in the bucket.
On a side note, I'm glad we have something to point to finally to show the game takes place BEFORE ME3. I am 100% sure 'The Reapers' are a driving force behind the project, but that wont be the public view (or our characters view) for the outset of the game. It's more inviting for new players and make a butt load more sense in the time line.
Always thought about it like the Moon landing during the cold war. That whole thing had 2 main driving forces behind it. The public talked about reason (and probably the main driving force for NASA/Astronauts) of 'because we can, because its hard, because we want to'. And then there was the government less shouted out reason of the cold war, g'damn commy bastards blah blah blah.
Just, you know, replace commies with Reapers.
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Post by Moghedia on Sept 4, 2016 19:17:12 GMT
My thought was if the Arks left just after the event of ME2 the other side of the citadel relay would be clear as the reaper fleets were flying FTL to the MW galaxy, as seen at the end of ME2. Do we know for sure that ME:A take place before the events of ME3?
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Post by Adhin on Sept 4, 2016 19:52:43 GMT
My thought was if the Arks left just after the event of ME2 the other side of the citadel relay would be clear as the reaper fleets were flying FTL to the MW galaxy, as seen at the end of ME2. Do we know for sure that ME:A take place before the events of ME3? Yup, 100%. Besides BioWare mostly stating it, the recent E3 'trailer' has some video evidence. So BioWare has said no ending from ME3 is taken into account and a lot of people took that as 'so it could take place anytime in ME3 just not after'. Which just couldn't be true since ME3 is filled with 'endings'. I mean the Genophage, what happens with the Quarian's? Those outcomes are rather broad and are going to be ignored in MEA. For the actual video evidence it shows in the trailer this thread is about. Those rings? That's at Earth, an earth with out aaaany Reapers fucking it up. It absolutely has to take place before ME3. In fact since they've hinted at (rather directly) the project is public I'm pretty sure from our characters perspective we joined for reasons other then Reapers. That is to say, I doubt Reapers will be mentioned much at all other then in an intro or via some easter egg email thing our character stumbles upon. Maybe some conspiracy theorist throwing out truths that everyone thinks is just crazy. I like to think of it like the first Moon landing. Public reasoning vs governmental driving force behind it. One was an uplifting ideal of pushing our boundries as a species, the other was a dick wagging contest with Russia which I think we can all agree was better then nuclear war, or any war for that matter. Shit US changed our entire countries motto because of that lol. Anyway, has to take place prior to ME3. I think when Shepard was 'dead' would be a good place if for no other reason as giving people a good out for why Shepard doesn't mention it or hear about it. Though I personally don't think Shepard not talking/hearing about it 'while' we played as them has any barrings on something existing in ME universe.
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