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Post by Psychevore on Apr 12, 2017 15:31:02 GMT
My biggest problem with the game is how it just leaves everything open and nothing is solved. I like this game but everything about does feel like "buy the DLC or next game to see what happens" Yeah, ME1 was much better in that regard. Everything was solved: What are the Reapers? Why do they do what they do? Where do they come from? When are they coming again? Who made them? We all knew it.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 12, 2017 16:17:26 GMT
My biggest problem with the game is how it just leaves everything open and nothing is solved. I like this game but everything about does feel like "buy the DLC or next game to see what happens" Yeah, ME1 was much better in that regard. Everything was solved: What are the Reapers? Why do they do what they do? Where do they come from? When are they coming again? Who made them? We all knew it. Actually, what are the Reapers and When are they coming again was answered in the first game lol. I know you just being a smartass but I felt like we got way more answers in ME1 then we did in MEA. We knew about more about the Protheans, Saren and the Reapers in then we do about the Angara, jardaan and Kett. Also I never said we said knew everything in by the end of ME1 lol.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 12, 2017 16:18:36 GMT
How is it being shoved down our throats if there hasn't even been any DLC yet? Andromeda isn't pulling day one DLC like ME3 so I'll take it. I still count on them adding DLC for Andromeda at some point, and my speculation is they'll be aimed at the Ryder family/jien Garson and the mystery benefactor, the quarian ark, and maybe one Angarans/kett themed DLC. if that doesn't happen then expect to see them in the sequal game. Hell, we haven't even had a season pass either, Andromeda is much more consumer friendly than the last two games, so I don't feel like dlc is being forced on us. They left the stories unfinished like Jardaan, reasons of leaving the Milky way etc. I mean you learn that everyone in The Milky Way could be dead but it stops there or Angara were created by some higher race and noone bats an eye, noone wonders where Jardaan went or if Scource is related to it really. This game has very good story elements but all has left for DLCs rather than concluding them in the base game. If you want to make a DLC you should make it a seperate story but still tied to the plot, not bait players in game. This makes the game feel unfinished That is story structure. Remember how just before beating Sarin you learned of these massive "Reaper" things that were not explained? The Protheon? Cerberus was only hinted at in ME1 through some minor side misisons. The things you are complaining about are part of the meta-story for this series, and will play out through all three games, just like the Reapers and Cerberus were part of the meta-story of the original series. They did a great job forshadowing the fact that the Reaper information will eventually leak to the public and all the panic it will cause, but makes no sense for it to come out now. This game was focused on immediate survival and dealing with the khett threat. That was resolved well, but it was just the begining. I have some theories at where the Quarian Ark is going, and it would not have made sense as part of the main story. Had they not built in the hints at the beginning and the end, it would have looked shoe horned in.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 12, 2017 16:35:23 GMT
Whatever they are planning, I hope we will get this Quarian Ark DLC with some REALLY GOOD STORY. I don't want any Remnant origin DLC or Citadel 2.0, cause I don't have any feelings for this crew, like I have for Normandy buddies. yeah I think we'll likely get a quarian ark one, possibly one relating to Mum and possibly the Primus who ma ycome back and cause further trouble with his fellow Kett. Those are the most likely 3 I would imagine.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 12, 2017 16:46:47 GMT
Yeah, ME1 was much better in that regard. Everything was solved: What are the Reapers? Why do they do what they do? Where do they come from? When are they coming again? Who made them? We all knew it. Actually, what are the Reapers and When are they coming again was answered in the first game lol. I know you just being a smartass but I felt like we got way more answers in ME1 then we did in MEA. We knew about more about the Protheans, Saren and the Reapers in then we do about the Angara, jardaan and Kett. Also I never said we said knew everything in by the end of ME1 lol. What they are isn't answered in the slightest in ME1, only what they do. Where they come from is only answered if you think the answer is 'dark space'. We knew nothing of the Protheans except that they were a) dead and the Reapers did it and c) the Protheans messed with the Citadel. We know more of the Angara. Saren is not equivalent to Jardaan. Saren is equivalent to the Archon. We know a lot more about the Kett. Also, not really a fair comparison. If anything the Kett are more like the Collectors, and the Remnant are ME:A's Reapers. But it's not really equivalent.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 12, 2017 17:31:49 GMT
Actually, what are the Reapers and When are they coming again was answered in the first game lol. I know you just being a smartass but I felt like we got way more answers in ME1 then we did in MEA. We knew about more about the Protheans, Saren and the Reapers in then we do about the Angara, jardaan and Kett. Also I never said we said knew everything in by the end of ME1 lol. What they are isn't answered in the slightest in ME1, only what they do. Where they come from is only answered if you think the answer is 'dark space'. We knew nothing of the Protheans except that they were a) dead and the Reapers did it and c) the Protheans messed with the Citadel. We know more of the Angara. Saren is not equivalent to Jardaan. Saren is equivalent to the Archon. We know a lot more about the Kett. Also, not really a fair comparison. If anything the Kett are more like the Collectors, and the Remnant are ME:A's Reapers. But it's not really equivalent. Yup. People act like we knew everything by the way end of ME1. It took three games to do that.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 12, 2017 17:40:40 GMT
Actually, what are the Reapers and When are they coming again was answered in the first game lol. I know you just being a smartass but I felt like we got way more answers in ME1 then we did in MEA. We knew about more about the Protheans, Saren and the Reapers in then we do about the Angara, jardaan and Kett. Also I never said we said knew everything in by the end of ME1 lol. Well, we didn't yet know that the Reapers were organic/machine hybrids. Of course, Bio themselves didn't know that at the time either. Bio also didn't' know why the Reapers do what they do. Did we actually know anything about the Protheans except that they were exterminated? Though I suppose we don't really need to know anything else.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 12, 2017 17:42:28 GMT
What's with this forum and having things shoved down their throats? I only have like 3 holes people can shove things in, the throat is better than the alternatives.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 12, 2017 18:46:24 GMT
What they are isn't answered in the slightest in ME1, only what they do. Where they come from is only answered if you think the answer is 'dark space'. We knew nothing of the Protheans except that they were a) dead and the Reapers did it and c) the Protheans messed with the Citadel. We know more of the Angara. Saren is not equivalent to Jardaan. Saren is equivalent to the Archon. We know a lot more about the Kett. Also, not really a fair comparison. If anything the Kett are more like the Collectors, and the Remnant are ME:A's Reapers. But it's not really equivalent. Yup. People act like we knew everything by the way end of ME1. It took three games to do that. And if you didnt buy the DLC's for ME3 you still wouldnt know where the Reapers came from
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 12, 2017 19:26:34 GMT
This game is a fix-broken-release-product setup
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Post by zan on Apr 12, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
I think the biggest difference between ME1 and MEA is that at the end of MEA we don't really know who is going to be the BIG BAD of the series. ME1 tossed Reapers in early, even if their backstory wasn't explained fully.
Think DA series. In DAO you kill the big Archdemon and you feel like you are done, and from what you've learned as long as you mop up the remaining Archdemons there will be peace, rainbows and unicorns all over. By the time you get through DAI you realize that Archdemon was a small symptom of a much larger problem in what appears to be a fairly broken world.
Similarly in MEA we kill Archon, feel that all that's left is mopping up some Kett and once again peace and unicorns pooping rainbows in Andromeda. Hopefully it will not take 3+ installments to find out what's really going on. After DAO the games in DA series (in my personal biased opinion) stopped feeling complete.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 12, 2017 19:49:57 GMT
I think they set up the kett and remnant storylines and leaving them unfinished was because they have at least one sequel coming in. They did set up a quarian ark dlc
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Post by goishen on Apr 12, 2017 20:04:26 GMT
This game is like a SW:TOR expansion. Toss in the hook, leave it in for maybe five minutes, create something else that we have to go do, bore the shit out of the player for the next ~10 hours or so, toss back in the hook for five minutes. Rinse and repeat enough times that when they finally do get to down the boss it is so anticlimactic that it's not even funny. Hey, voila.
I've just created a SW:TOR expansion.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Apr 12, 2017 23:22:01 GMT
Actually, what are the Reapers and When are they coming again was answered in the first game lol. I know you just being a smartass but I felt like we got way more answers in ME1 then we did in MEA. We knew about more about the Protheans, Saren and the Reapers in then we do about the Angara, jardaan and Kett. Also I never said we said knew everything in by the end of ME1 lol. What they are isn't answered in the slightest in ME1, only what they do. Where they come from is only answered if you think the answer is 'dark space'. We knew nothing of the Protheans except that they were a) dead and the Reapers did it and c) the Protheans messed with the Citadel. We know more of the Angara. Saren is not equivalent to Jardaan. Saren is equivalent to the Archon. We know a lot more about the Kett. Also, not really a fair comparison. If anything the Kett are more like the Collectors, and the Remnant are ME:A's Reapers. But it's not really equivalent. I wonder where people get this idea from. They seem to simply be tools of war the Jardaan used. I would argue whoever unleashed the Scourge is the Reapers.
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Post by sil on Apr 12, 2017 23:28:11 GMT
I, for one, can't wait for Story DLC to turn up!
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 23:28:22 GMT
What's with this forum and having things shoved down their throats? I only have like 3 holes people can shove things in, the throat is better than the alternatives. Lol. I just got a good look at your avatar. I lol'd.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 13, 2017 8:07:26 GMT
What they are isn't answered in the slightest in ME1, only what they do. Where they come from is only answered if you think the answer is 'dark space'. We knew nothing of the Protheans except that they were a) dead and the Reapers did it and c) the Protheans messed with the Citadel. We know more of the Angara. Saren is not equivalent to Jardaan. Saren is equivalent to the Archon. We know a lot more about the Kett. Also, not really a fair comparison. If anything the Kett are more like the Collectors, and the Remnant are ME:A's Reapers. But it's not really equivalent. I wonder where people get this idea from. They seem to simply be tools of war the Jardaan used. I would argue whoever unleashed the Scourge is the Reapers. Because they're robots. I said that it's not really equivalent though. I was just pointing out that the Kett and the Reapers aren't alike.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 15, 2017 16:58:04 GMT
I, for one, can't wait for Story DLC to turn up! Me either. But if you look in some of these threads people are calling the game DOA. Meaning that they think Bioware will throw in the towel.
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