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Post by Exile Isan on Apr 13, 2017 19:37:55 GMT
Yeah when I first heard it I was like "now that's the kind of music I was expecting!" but it's one of the only ones I hear based on that soundtrack. Yeah, I like the music to this game, and I love the track "Resistance", but good soundtrack should make you remember the events that happened in the game (or movie) even when you're just listening to it and not watching it. Unfortunately, the ME:A soundtrack doesn't really do that. One of the best examples of a track that does is "Crash Landing" from the ME2 soundtrack, "The Fall" from DA:I, and if you want a movie example: Of course, John Williams is a movie soundtrack god, so y'know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:40:18 GMT
Yeah when I first heard it I was like "now that's the kind of music I was expecting!" but it's one of the only ones I hear based on that soundtrack. Yeah, I like the music to this game, and I love the track "Resistance", but good soundtrack should make you remember the events that happened in the game (or movie) even when you're just listening to it and not watching it. Unfortunately, the ME:A soundtrack doesn't really do that. One of the best examples of a track that does is "Crash Landing" from the ME2 soundtrack, "The Fall" from DA:I, and if you want a movie example: Of course, John Williams is a movie soundtrack god, so y'know. He's the best! In fact my fav game composer is a lot like him. The guy who composed the music for Oblivion and Skyrim. His music is inspiring and I never tire of playing the game just to listen to those soundtracks!
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 19:56:59 GMT
Yeah, I like the music to this game, and I love the track "Resistance", but good soundtrack should make you remember the events that happened in the game (or movie) even when you're just listening to it and not watching it. Unfortunately, the ME:A soundtrack doesn't really do that. One of the best examples of a track that does is "Crash Landing" from the ME2 soundtrack, "The Fall" from DA:I, and if you want a movie example: Of course, John Williams is a movie soundtrack god, so y'know. He's the best! In fact my fav game composer is a lot like him. The guy who composed the music for Oblivion and Skyrim. His music is inspiring and I never tire of playing the game just to listen to those soundtracks! You are referring to Jeremy Soule, and he has been called the "John Williams of video games." Not only has he done Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, but he's also done Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Guild Wars 1 & 2, as well as plenty of other projects. Without a doubt, he's best known for The Elder Scrolls, where his iconic soundtrack really begins with Morrowind. He's without a doubt one of the best composers in the industry, and probably my favorite as well. As far as the OP, I felt as if I must have bought a different game. I didn't find any of the music to particularly to be that memorable anyway, but it just rarely played to start. Perhaps it was a bug or just poor execution on the part of the Audio team. BioWare really needs to step up the music in DLC and the next game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:59:18 GMT
He's the best! In fact my fav game composer is a lot like him. The guy who composed the music for Oblivion and Skyrim. His music is inspiring and I never tire of playing the game just to listen to those soundtracks! You are referring to Jeremy Soule, and he has been called the "John Williams of video games." Not only has he done Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, but he's also done Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Guild Wars 1 & 2, as well as plenty of other projects. Without a doubt, he's best known for The Elder Scrolls, where his iconic soundtrack really begins with Morrowind. He's without a doubt one of the best composers in the industry, and probably my favorite as well. As far as the OP, I felt as if I must have bought a different game. I didn't find any of the music to particularly to be that memorable anyway, but it just rarely played to start. Perhaps it was a bug or just poor execution on the part of the Audio team. BioWare really needs to step up the music in DLC and the next game. Yeah that's him! His music is amazing and he did KOTOR? Wow! He did great! And I didn't play Morrowind, but I heard the music from it in Skyrim when you travel there. Imagine him doing MEA and DA music? Wow...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:06:22 GMT
The soundtrack is one of the weak areas of the game. Unlike the soundtracks to the first three games, most of it isn't very memorable. It's just there.
Bioware also seems to have gone with DA:I's approach of having the open world exploration be accompanied by ambient sounds rather than music. That was a mistake in DA:I and it is a mistake in ME:A. No matter how interesting the sound effects of the open world maps, they cease to be interesting after a minute or two. The lack of music for long stretches while exploring makes it feel much more like a drag than it should.
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Post by Exile Isan on Apr 13, 2017 20:07:12 GMT
I want to say that Jeremy Soule did the music to Neverwinter Nights, as well.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 20:07:56 GMT
You are referring to Jeremy Soule, and he has been called the "John Williams of video games." Not only has he done Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, but he's also done Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Guild Wars 1 & 2, as well as plenty of other projects. Without a doubt, he's best known for The Elder Scrolls, where his iconic soundtrack really begins with Morrowind. He's without a doubt one of the best composers in the industry, and probably my favorite as well. As far as the OP, I felt as if I must have bought a different game. I didn't find any of the music to particularly to be that memorable anyway, but it just rarely played to start. Perhaps it was a bug or just poor execution on the part of the Audio team. BioWare really needs to step up the music in DLC and the next game. Yeah that's him! His music is amazing and he did KOTOR? Wow! He did great! And I didn't play Morrowind, but I heard the music from it in Skyrim when you travel there. Imagine him doing MEA and DA music? Wow... Indeed. I didn't know he did KOTOR 1 either for the longest time. He's always praised for The Elder Scrolls, so his contributions to that game is always overlooked. I'd love to see him do a soundtrack for either Mass Effect or Dragon Age. His attention to detail and world-building through music is truly unrivaled. Given the last two composers BioWare has picked up were exclusively outside of the video game industry, I'm a bit skeptical they'd be interested in going with another video game composer, especially one they worked with in the past. Who knows though? I suspect Bethesda has him locked down to do The Elder Scrolls VI, so it would likely come down to his schedule and whether he would have time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:09:47 GMT
Yeah that's him! His music is amazing and he did KOTOR? Wow! He did great! And I didn't play Morrowind, but I heard the music from it in Skyrim when you travel there. Imagine him doing MEA and DA music? Wow... Indeed. I didn't know he did KOTOR 1 either for the longest time. He's always praised for The Elder Scrolls, so his contributions to that game is always overlooked. I'd love to see him do a soundtrack for either Mass Effect or Dragon Age. His attention to detail and world-building through music is truly unrivaled. Given the last two composers BioWare has picked up were exclusively outside to video game industry, I'm a bit skeptical they'd be interested in going with another video game composer, especially one they worked with in the past. Who knows though? I suspect Bethesda has him locked down to do The Elder Scrolls VI, so it would likely come down to his schedule and whether he would have time. It's a shame, because he could really do wonders especially for DA4.
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Post by Nightlife on Apr 13, 2017 20:10:52 GMT
Music was totally forgettable (if even there.) The OT featured such memorable music (see my other thread about this) - bsn.boards.net/thread/7850/face-andromedas-music-lackingA real shame they dropped the ball here. Another reason why I didn't enjoy ME:A much. Bring back Jack and Sam!!!
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 20:14:08 GMT
Indeed. I didn't know he did KOTOR 1 either for the longest time. He's always praised for The Elder Scrolls, so his contributions to that game is always overlooked. I'd love to see him do a soundtrack for either Mass Effect or Dragon Age. His attention to detail and world-building through music is truly unrivaled. Given the last two composers BioWare has picked up were exclusively outside to video game industry, I'm a bit skeptical they'd be interested in going with another video game composer, especially one they worked with in the past. Who knows though? I suspect Bethesda has him locked down to do The Elder Scrolls VI, so it would likely come down to his schedule and whether he would have time. It's a shame, because he could really do wonders especially for DA4. Agreed. At the very least, I'd like to see Inon Zur return as the lead composer on Dragon Age. Ironically enough, not only is Zur known for the soundtracks in DAO and DAII, but he's also known for Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. Bethesda and BioWare seem to have this strange relationship of using the same composers in their games.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:15:49 GMT
It's a shame, because he could really do wonders especially for DA4. Agreed. At the very least, I'd like to see Inon Zur return as the lead composer on Dragon Age. Ironically enough, not only is Zur known for the soundtracks in DAO and DAII, but he's also known for Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. Bethesda and BioWare seem to have this strange relationship of using the same composers in their games. Yeah DAO and DA2 had the best music! If he returned, it would be amazing! I admit the music in the DAI DLC was great though, but we need music that has a real RPG feel and not movie composers imo. MEA needed that fantasy and sci-fi feel of exploration and space.
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Post by NUM13ER on Apr 13, 2017 20:19:59 GMT
The score is competent overall, a handful of stand outs, but we were all truly spoiled with Jack Wall and Sam Hullick's contributions to the original trilogy.
It's got maybe 5 decent tracks, not counting the licensed credits song which was made in 2012, but the two most memorable are played before you've even stepped foot in Andromeda. The menu theme (A Better Beginning) and the music playing as you leave the Milky Way (A Trail Of Hope)
They were going for something a little more understated but it's over-corrected and not left an impact overall. I can't remember the Archon's theme but Sovereigns and Saren's themes were instantly memorable.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 20:20:11 GMT
Agreed. At the very least, I'd like to see Inon Zur return as the lead composer on Dragon Age. Ironically enough, not only is Zur known for the soundtracks in DAO and DAII, but he's also known for Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. Bethesda and BioWare seem to have this strange relationship of using the same composers in their games. Yeah DAO and DA2 had the best music! If he returned, it would be amazing! I admit the music in the DAI DLC was great though, but we need music that has a real RPG feel and not movie composers imo. MEA needed that fantasy and sci-fi feel of exploration and space. Yep. Zur's soundtrack was unique and special, which was great for establishing Dragon Age as a franchise. The DAI soundtrack was just too generic Hollywood for my taste. The Inquisitor's theme was good, but the rest of it I could have done without. The soundtrack doesn't have to be epic and blaring at all times for me to appreciate it. The music just needs to feel right for the experience it's crafting. I do think one of MEA's biggest mistakes was making a departure from synthesized sounds and relying more on strings and orchestral scores. It's good, but it doesn't give off that Mass Effect feeling we all know and love.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:21:37 GMT
Yeah DAO and DA2 had the best music! If he returned, it would be amazing! I admit the music in the DAI DLC was great though, but we need music that has a real RPG feel and not movie composers imo. MEA needed that fantasy and sci-fi feel of exploration and space. Yep. Zur's soundtrack was unique and special, which was great for establishing Dragon Age as a franchise. The DAI soundtrack was just too generic Hollywood for my taste. The Inquisitor's theme was good, but the rest of it I could have done without. The soundtrack doesn't have to be epic and blaring at all times for me to appreciate it. The music just needs to feel right for the experience it's crafting. I do think one of MEA's biggest mistakes was making a departure from synthesized sounds and relying more on strings and orchestral scores. It's good, but it doesn't give off that Mass Effect feeling we all know and love. Yeah I am hoping they learn from this since they do take feedback into consideration and try and fix things.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 20:28:33 GMT
Yep. Zur's soundtrack was unique and special, which was great for establishing Dragon Age as a franchise. The DAI soundtrack was just too generic Hollywood for my taste. The Inquisitor's theme was good, but the rest of it I could have done without. The soundtrack doesn't have to be epic and blaring at all times for me to appreciate it. The music just needs to feel right for the experience it's crafting. I do think one of MEA's biggest mistakes was making a departure from synthesized sounds and relying more on strings and orchestral scores. It's good, but it doesn't give off that Mass Effect feeling we all know and love. Yeah I am hoping they learn from this since they do take feedback into consideration and try and fix things. We can only hope. If I had it my way, BioWare would never have replaced Inon Zur with someone new for DAI. Jack Wall and Sam Hulick would have also never been replaced. When you have a specific composer who truly creates a special sound for your franchise, it's better to hold on to them than go with someone else. John Williams is the sound of Star Wars. Jeremy Soule is the sound of The Elder Scrolls. Marty O'Donnell is the sound of Halo. Koji Kondo is the sound of The Legend of Zelda, as well as most of Nintendo's other iconic properties. It's an incredibly daunting task to come after these giants, and oftentimes many fall short. There's nothing wrong with bringing in new talent with a unique perspective, but you should always respect the music that came before it. Completely toss it out and you've lost much of the spirit and soul of that franchise.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 13, 2017 20:43:10 GMT
He's the best! In fact my fav game composer is a lot like him. The guy who composed the music for Oblivion and Skyrim. His music is inspiring and I never tire of playing the game just to listen to those soundtracks! You are referring to Jeremy Soule, and he has been called the "John Williams of video games." Not only has he done Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, but he's also done Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Guild Wars 1 & 2, as well as plenty of other projects. Without a doubt, he's best known for The Elder Scrolls, where his iconic soundtrack really begins with Morrowind. He's without a doubt one of the best composers in the industry, and probably my favorite as well. As far as the OP, I felt as if I must have bought a different game. I didn't find any of the music to particularly to be that memorable anyway, but it just rarely played to start. Perhaps it was a bug or just poor execution on the part of the Audio team. BioWare really needs to step up the music in DLC and the next game. He's arguably my all-around favorite as well. I still love to pull up the title track for Skyrim every now and again. It's a shame, because he could really do wonders especially for DA4. Agreed. At the very least, I'd like to see Inon Zur return as the lead composer on Dragon Age. Ironically enough, not only is Zur known for the soundtracks in DAO and DAII, but he's also known for Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. Bethesda and BioWare seem to have this strange relationship of using the same composers in their games. While I liked Inon, I also liked quite a few pieces from the new composer in DAI as well. But I wouldn't hold out on the hopes of Inon returning. As I recall, he burned his bridges with BioWare after publicly complaining about the short amount of time he had to compose the music for DA2.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 13, 2017 20:49:54 GMT
He's arguably my all-around favorite as well. I still love to pull up the title track for Skyrim every now and again. While I liked Inon, I also liked quite a few pieces from the new composer in DAI as well. But I wouldn't hold out on the hopes of Inon returning. As I recall, he burned his bridges with BioWare after publicly complaining about the short amount of time he had to compose the music for DA2. Likewise. If there's one thing I can say about Skyrim, it's that the music is pure brilliance and never gets tiring. I always have a smile on my face whenever I listen to the official soundtrack or play Skyrim. That's too bad. Although, I'd argue DAII was an unusual case given its incredibly short development cycle. I can't exactly say I blame Zur as creativity and excellence cannot be rushed. He did do one of the bard songs in DAI, however, so that bridge may not be beyond repair. I doubt he'll be the main composer again, given BioWare never seems to stay with any composer for too long.
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Post by Elsariel on Apr 13, 2017 20:50:06 GMT
Jeremy Soule is my all-time favorite game music composer. Hands down. I have a huge playlist of all my faves on Google Play that I listen to regularly. I'd love it if he did DA but I have a feeling that's never gonna happen.
As far as DA music goes, there are a few tracks that I like but it's nothing compared to the emotion I feel with Jeremy Soule's music. DA music gives me nostolgia when I listen to it, but I don't really have an urge to listen to it often.
ME:A's music is pretty good actually, I really enjoy it. Like others, though, I don't feel like I've heard half of it in-game. =(
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Post by Exile Isan on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:43 GMT
I think I'm the odd one out in regards to Dragon Age soundtracks as I'm meh about DA:O and DA2's soundtracks, but I love DA:I soundtrack.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:52:30 GMT
I think the soundtrack itself is pretty good.
Its implementation in the game, however, is pretty awful. Wasted potential.
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Post by dazzarlok on Apr 13, 2017 23:16:43 GMT
I couldn't hear the music over SAM's incessant nagging...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 23:17:26 GMT
I'd be happy with Trevor Morris being brought back for DA4. I thought that unlike Mass Effect the Dragon Age series has generally had lackluster soundtracks, and that DA:I was the first of the bunch that was actually good. My only complaint with DA:I is that it had an excellent soundtrack you don't hear often, because Bioware opted to prioritize ambient noise in the open world.
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Post by Marduk on Apr 14, 2017 2:42:54 GMT
Feels worse with MEA sadly. also apparently the bald lady in Vortex was supposed to sing? cause for me she was just standing there. unless they at least fixed that in 1.05. there is still hope with DLCs perhaps. Tresspasser was great in that regard for DAI. Trespasser and Descent had the best scores imo! And yeah, also some have seen a Turian read poetry, but I haven't seen him yet. The patch said it fixed the music playing at the wrong time, but in battle I hear the battle music a bit, then it cuts out like DAI's music did when traveling around the map. As for DLC, I hope this is where it gets fixed! I found the ME2 DLC battle music was better than the main game. Especially Overlord and Shadow Broker! I do give MEA credit for the music at the beginning that also plays when you get the Tempest and beat the game. It's a theme that's Mass Effect and stands out to me. And the CC music pays homage to the DAI main theme music too. I did like the music at the beginning too although ultimately prefer what DAI offered and i hope they stick with Trevor Morris or bring Jeremy Soule. i am a huge fan of Inon Zur too (previous composer for DA) although his work on Fallout 4 didn't impress me as much. guess he is better for mythical settings. apparently with MEA more either encountered the issue regarding the music playing or the lack of it was just more noticeable. many were probably busy forced listening to SAM's non stop reports instead (not sure if there is an option to disable it). regardless i hope for the best specially since the composer of MEA apparently worked on the upcoming The Defenders TV show too and i am looking forward to that.
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