I didn't quite get the Liam/Jaal nude scene

Then what the heck is he still writing for a major game then?  I applaud Bioware if they are just keeping him around until retirement but for everyone's sake don't let him near a game.

It's not bad enough we have to deal with Mr. Walters but some guy even people at Bioware thinks is crazy.  Siggggggghhhhhhh how far Bioware has fallen.

And I would've forgiven the ridiculousness of their fan service had the game been mind blowingly incredible.

Fan service is fine, but it needs to be surrounded by a worthwhile product. I'm hormonal... I get aroused. Sure. But don't hand me a shit sandwich and sell me on eating it with promises of titillation. That's so insulting.

Quite a lot of straight guys felt this level of insult when they saw Cindy in FFXV. She's supposed to be a mechanic, huh? REALLY now? And the FFXV dev thought players were dumb enough to believe his statement on Cindy: "She's not meant to be an erotic character - just outgoing." Is that guy for real? And why throw such distracting, in your face fan service at players? It's so suspicious - like... are they compensating for something lacking in the game?

CD Projekt Red can fan service everyone until the cows come home. Everything in TW3 was a worthwhile product, I thought. And they had some pretty ridiculous outfits for female characters in that game. But it was a great game.

I think this is spot on. Liam keeps on blabbing about HUSTL in my campaign but I (and I acknowledge that this is probably my fault because it can't be that he didn't explain it at all) have completely missed his explanation about what HUSTL actually is. I have come up with what it should closely resemble thanks to other tidbits of information he gave me but the fact that I couldn't find a short to the point explanation still makes me feel awkward when talking with him. The lack of these to the point explanations is what defines him for me, hence this particular example. In fact, like I've said in my first post, I have a hard time filtering important stuff out of his random nonsense at all, which makes it quite a challenge to properly understand his plans and ideas. Everything Liam does seems to be a puzzle needing to be solved before you can even think about a next step. The fact that another one of his 'gimmicks' is to keep secrets from the pathfinder also doesn't help. I think that these two things combined are the primary reasons why he comes over as vague. Not to say that he isn't an interesting character because I like conversing with him but I'm not really sure if it fits his background and position within the team. To me it seems like a cop/crisis response member would need to have a cool head, not scrambled brains. But that is just my two cents on the issue.

Not that I'm one to do so myself, but I still think they should give folks like you a "fade to black" option for sex scenes. 

That bad?

I said "some" - christ. Calm your rage-boner.

Not a big fan of FF games, at least none of the recent ones.  So I had to turn to google to see what you were talking about.

Holy sweet mother!  Uh what I mean is, no, definitely no fan service there. 

It depends on what you consider bad.

They are fairly similar to love scenes you might see in an HBO or Showtime television series. There is brief nudity. 

I'd say a shirtless kid... his body was shaped like a 16 year olds.. I mean come on, what the hell was bioware thinking??

Now, now. None of these women are intended to be erotic characters. They are simply outgoing! Lol

Noodle if only gay men mattered to bioware then at least I'd get myself some man candy more often. I've got no shame.

I thought the ending of the scene was a nod to Firefly, where Mal stretches and boards Serenity naked. Jaal's shot looked very similar in body language and tone.