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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 14, 2017 9:57:46 GMT
I got 2 so far and they both feel kinda underwhelming Angara Avenger - His unique ability ( Avenger Strike ) just aint strong enough which made me respec to yet another boring stealth sniper build (after getting bored from using a cool ability that has the damage of a kitten). Asari Duelist - Charge + Barrier O M G , what can go wrong with that one? Well for me something did. I couldnt wait to work on a melee powerhouse until i clicked the 'F' key and seen the horror which is her melee attack. My only hope is that maybe once i max her out and max a good close range pistol + ammo booster i might be able to feel some what stronger. Are the other ultra rares any better? ( or maybe i am missing something here? ). The Salarian Operator is quite good.
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Post by cricketer15 on Apr 14, 2017 9:58:53 GMT
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Post by mograximus on Apr 14, 2017 10:00:38 GMT
Angara Avenger is simply, in my opinion, the best kit in the game right now. Avenger strike is so strong and versatile. Not only is it useful for an escape, but it's perfect for stripping defenses/stunning to set up head shots.
Stealth grid is phenomenal as always
I only take 1 point in sticky grenade, mainly as a form of CC, as most stop and do the sticky dance once it's on them.
Great passives as well. Give it a chance!
Haven't played the duelist yet, I'll get around to that one once I unlock it xD
Edit: Check out Penguinfetish's build guide on her for more info. It should help out, especially considering (iirc) he only had her at rank 1 at the time of the vid.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 14, 2017 10:04:27 GMT
I got 2 so far and they both feel kinda underwhelming Angara Avenger - Her unique ability ( Avenger Strike ) just aint strong enough which made me respec to yet another boring stealth sniper build (after getting bored from using a cool ability that has the damage of a kitten). Asari Duelist - Charge + Barrier O M G , what can go wrong with that one? Well for me something did. I couldnt wait to work on a melee powerhouse until i clicked the 'F' key and seen the horror which is her melee attack. My only hope is that maybe once i max her out and max a good close range pistol + ammo booster i might be able to feel some what stronger without the need to use the cursed sniper. Are the other ultra rares any better? ( or maybe i am missing something here? ). Nah, you just suck and don;t know how to use the characters. I have both and i rekt golds. Easily some of the best kits in the game. However I don't like the lack of unique skills for ultra rares.
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Post by kresa on Apr 14, 2017 10:07:20 GMT
Angara Avenger is simply, in my opinion, the best kit in the game right now. Avenger strike is so strong and versatile. Not only is it useful for an escape, but it's perfect for stripping defenses/stunning to set up head shots. Stealth grid is phenomenal as always I only take 1 point in sticky grenade, mainly as a form of CC, as most stop and do the sticky dance once it's on them. Great passives as well. Give it a chance! Haven't played the duelist yet, I'll get around to that one once I unlock it xD I didnt feel its strength, i wanted to play like a rogue, blink around and one shot trash enemies but atm i dont think it is possible. The description says that it is a melee strike but buffing my melee damage didnt help me to reach the one shot goal i had in mind.
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Post by mograximus on Apr 14, 2017 10:09:00 GMT
I got 2 so far and they both feel kinda underwhelming Angara Avenger - His unique ability ( Avenger Strike ) just aint strong enough which made me respec to yet another boring stealth sniper build (after getting bored from using a cool ability that has the damage of a kitten). Asari Duelist - Charge + Barrier O M G , what can go wrong with that one? Well for me something did. I couldnt wait to work on a melee powerhouse until i clicked the 'F' key and seen the horror which is her melee attack. My only hope is that maybe once i max her out and max a good close range pistol + ammo booster i might be able to feel some what stronger. Are the other ultra rares any better? ( or maybe i am missing something here? ). The Salarian Operator is quite good. Also this^ Only have him at rank 2 but my 2nd favorite kit, behind the avenger. Mainly because, unlike many kits, his is one in which every single power is useful to some degree. Invasion is amazing, Shield boost is an absolute life saver, allowing you to be tankier than most, and even overload helps for stuns/setting up tech combos. Edit: Check out Goatfu- err, starduskLP's video on his Operator. I run the same build and it's actually really fun to play; while it is a support class, it's effectiveness is undeniable.
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Post by mograximus on Apr 14, 2017 10:11:42 GMT
Angara Avenger is simply, in my opinion, the best kit in the game right now. Avenger strike is so strong and versatile. Not only is it useful for an escape, but it's perfect for stripping defenses/stunning to set up head shots. Stealth grid is phenomenal as always I only take 1 point in sticky grenade, mainly as a form of CC, as most stop and do the sticky dance once it's on them. Great passives as well. Give it a chance! Haven't played the duelist yet, I'll get around to that one once I unlock it xD I didnt feel its strength, i wanted to play like a rogue, blink around and one shot trash enemies but atm i dont think it is possible. The description says that it is a melee strike but buffing my melee damage didnt help me to reach the one shot goal i had in mind. I see what you mean, shadow strike in ME3MP could pack a freakin' punch lol. Sadly, powers in general in this game... you just aren't going to ever reach that type of play style at the moment. Like I said, you can still get that play style indirectly, so long as you follow up the strike with a headshot afterward. Powers are so lackluster at the moment that they're more supplementary.
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Post by kresa on Apr 14, 2017 10:24:54 GMT
I got 2 so far and they both feel kinda underwhelming Angara Avenger - Her unique ability ( Avenger Strike ) just aint strong enough which made me respec to yet another boring stealth sniper build (after getting bored from using a cool ability that has the damage of a kitten). Asari Duelist - Charge + Barrier O M G , what can go wrong with that one? Well for me something did. I couldnt wait to work on a melee powerhouse until i clicked the 'F' key and seen the horror which is her melee attack. My only hope is that maybe once i max her out and max a good close range pistol + ammo booster i might be able to feel some what stronger without the need to use the cursed sniper. Are the other ultra rares any better? ( or maybe i am missing something here? ). Nah, you just suck and don;t know how to use the characters. I have both and i rekt golds. Easily some of the best kits in the game. However I don't like the lack of unique skills for ultra rares. There is no need to insult or jump to conclusions...
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 14, 2017 10:45:16 GMT
Nah, you just suck and don;t know how to use the characters. I have both and i rekt golds. Easily some of the best kits in the game. However I don't like the lack of unique skills for ultra rares. There is no need to insult or jump to conclusions... I didn't jump to any conclusion. It;s obvious you aren;t doing something right if Avenge strike hits like a kitten. When I hit red bar enemies, I take down a third of their health bar. When I hit sheilded targets I take down the entire sheilds + damage to health. I hit an armor target, it takes a good chunk out of their armor. WHen you use the avengers strike, you usually want to follow up with a melee strike, a shot, or a sticky. Yes the powers in the current state aren't as powerful, but they aren't completely shit either. The damage output from both characters is pretty damn good.
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Post by mograximus on Apr 14, 2017 10:50:06 GMT
There is no need to insult or jump to conclusions... I didn;t jump to any conclusion. You just don't know how to use them. Maybe he's here to find out how. Though if he keeps responding to you instead of constructive feedback, I'll be more inclined to believe it's just a whine post
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Post by neightrix on Apr 14, 2017 10:56:33 GMT
Asari Duelist melee has a lot of iframes and good damage. I didn't like it at first, and it is way too slow, and there's no reason she should re-appear so far from the targeted enemy. Great for spoofing suicide Breachers and otherwise unavoidable enemy lag-melee.
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Post by niroz on Apr 14, 2017 10:59:48 GMT
I got 2 so far and they both feel kinda underwhelming Angara Avenger - Her unique ability ( Avenger Strike ) just aint strong enough which made me respec to yet another boring stealth sniper build (after getting bored from using a cool ability that has the damage of a kitten). Asari Duelist - Charge + Barrier O M G , what can go wrong with that one? Well for me something did. I couldnt wait to work on a melee powerhouse until i clicked the 'F' key and seen the horror which is her melee attack. My only hope is that maybe once i max her out and max a good close range pistol + ammo booster i might be able to feel some what stronger without the need to use the cursed sniper. Are the other ultra rares any better? ( or maybe i am missing something here? ). Angara Avenger She's S tier. Avenger Strike is one of the hardest hitting powers in the game. It has a high base for a power and gets modified by melee. It may not one shot a zerker, but it still does beefcake damage with full melee modifiers (even without the rank 5 damage evo). Nevermind the mobility and utility it provides. Then there's stealth grid and two top tier passives. Sticky grenade is really good too, but the other trees are so so good that it is usually left at 1 point. AA has high damage, high mobility, high survivability, and high utility. Yeah...pretty much high everything. She's nuts. Asari Duelist Definitely one of my favorite characters. Her melee attack is pretty much best in the game at this point since it gives iframes, hits like a truck, AND gives back shielding. The sheer bullsh*t her kit can pull off with her iframes, teleport dash, charge, backlash, saving barrier, and barrier drain is plain silly, and loads of fun. She can duel groups of enemies and go head to head w/zerkers and hydras. A good duelist can relieve a ton of pressure off of your backline. However, she's not easy to play and is fairly weak at low levels. Her dash and melee take some getting use to, but good use of both are vital to her performance. The intermittent melee bug (where you temporarily cannot use it) can screw you over. Also if you're in a game with moderate or more lag, you will suffer more than other characters.
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Post by gaidax on Apr 14, 2017 11:10:20 GMT
Wut? Both Avenger and Duelist are pretty strong. Duelist may not be strongest out there, but dayum she had so many iframes it's silly and her attack is homing one with free teleport and immunity while you do it. Also, she can port through frikkin' walls, instantly stopping all damage she was taking.
Avenger, I personally do not like, but not because weak, simply because of offhost Stealth Grid bullshit which I just can't swallow. It is one of the strongest kits out there.
I mean you do have pretty average B tier UR kits like Kineticist, which is a one trick pony and the trick is not even that good when shit hits the fan, but Avenger and Duelist are very decent.
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Post by kresa on Apr 14, 2017 11:11:24 GMT
There is no need to insult or jump to conclusions... I didn't jump to any conclusion. It;s obvious you aren;t doing something right if Avenge strike hits like a kitten. When I hit red bar enemies, I take down a third of their health bar. When I hit sheilded targets I take down the entire sheilds + damage to health. I hit an armor target, it takes a good chunk out of their armor. WHen you use the avengers strike, you usually want to follow up with a melee strike, a shot, or a sticky. Yes the powers in the current state aren't as powerful, but they aren't completely shit either. The damage output from both characters is pretty damn good. This is what i am talking about... third of their health bar is not a lot... Maybe it is in comparison for what is going on right now but this is so broken... I would excpect to one shot simple trash mobs if i focus on a 12 sec cooldown ability in a power focused build on an ultra rare class. In either case i think this topic went to a different direction then what i had in mind so i will stop here.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on Apr 14, 2017 11:12:48 GMT
Echo what everybody else said. The Avenger is stupidly OP compared to the rest of the kits. Avenger strike is something you can make a build around. Sticky nades you can build around. Stealth grid is borderline gamebreaking. all 3 on 1 kit? wtf? And DR anytime youre shot in passives? Movement buff? Like I feel dirty using her. It's almost like using the EDI sexbot.
I think your major gripe is not being able to 1 shot gold mooks w avenger strike. With evo 6 you stun em for 5 secs and evo 5 you basically nerf all enemies around target. Just slap it once more with light melee and they die.
Is there a downside to this kit? Has anyone found 1?
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Post by gaidax on Apr 14, 2017 11:16:46 GMT
Is there a downside to this kit? Has anyone found 1? Angaras look stupid and her ass is not Kineticist tier.
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Post by niroz on Apr 14, 2017 11:26:14 GMT
I didn't jump to any conclusion. It;s obvious you aren;t doing something right if Avenge strike hits like a kitten. When I hit red bar enemies, I take down a third of their health bar. When I hit sheilded targets I take down the entire sheilds + damage to health. I hit an armor target, it takes a good chunk out of their armor. WHen you use the avengers strike, you usually want to follow up with a melee strike, a shot, or a sticky. Yes the powers in the current state aren't as powerful, but they aren't completely shit either. The damage output from both characters is pretty damn good. This is what i am talking about... third of their health bar is not a lot... Maybe it is in comparison for what is going on right now but this is so broken... I would excpect to one shot simple trash mobs if i focus on a 12 sec cooldown ability in a power focused build on an ultra rare class. In either case i think this post went to a different direction then what i had in mind so i will stop here. Nah, just ignore the negativity. I don't know why some people have to insult others who are having trouble and seeking help in a game that is riddled with ambiguous skill descriptions and mechanics, bugs, and eye rolling kit design. If you were building the Angara Avenger around Avenger Strike's damage, I can certainly understand your disappointment. However, it is still one of the best abilities in the game, and not just because of damage. The mobility and CC (if you spec evo 6a) are pretty huge. Also, keep in mind that it counts as melee, so its damage is improved with +melee damage.
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Post by kresa on Apr 14, 2017 11:52:53 GMT
This is what i am talking about... third of their health bar is not a lot... Maybe it is in comparison for what is going on right now but this is so broken... I would excpect to one shot simple trash mobs if i focus on a 12 sec cooldown ability in a power focused build on an ultra rare class. In either case i think this post went to a different direction then what i had in mind so i will stop here. Nah, just ignore the negativity. I don't know why some people have to insult others who are having trouble and seeking help in a game that is riddled with ambiguous skill descriptions and mechanics, bugs, and eye rolling kit design. If you were building the Angara Avenger around Avenger Strike's damage, I can certainly understand your disappointment. However, it is still one of the best abilities in the game, and not just because of damage. The mobility and CC (if you spec evo 6a) are pretty huge. Also, keep in mind that it counts as melee, so its damage is improved with +melee damage.
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Post by Archaengel_X on Apr 14, 2017 12:59:02 GMT
The Asari Duelist is actually a powerful character. She is actually what I always believed the N7 Slayer should have been. Her teleport dodge and melee attacks have invincibility frames, and she has great endurance thanks to Biotic Charge and Barrier passives. As much as I liked the style of the N7 Slayer, I was disappointed that he lacked these attributes to make him a truly devastating character.
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Post by varicite on Apr 14, 2017 12:59:41 GMT
Duelist is slower dps than other melee builds, but she's a hell of a lot sturdier thanks to that melee attack you hate.
Between charge, barrier, backlash (which also buffs melee), melee iframes, and dodging through walls, she's safe roaming on her own in gold without issue.
Kroguard is really tanky, but I prefer Duelist for practicality and style points.
Her sword hits like a truck when built correctly too.
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