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Post by chugster on Apr 14, 2017 19:11:37 GMT
Wondering if that feck off blade on the front does anything or should i still be using a melee mod for melee builds?
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Post by gethadept on Apr 14, 2017 19:16:44 GMT
One person here tested it and said yes.
They said 5-10%.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 14, 2017 19:18:27 GMT
If it does (and I believe that it does) it doesn't justify the downgrade in weapon performance you will have when you actually need your gun.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 14, 2017 19:24:00 GMT
It`s also painful how long Ruzad takes to reload.
...and I believe reload animation cannot be canceled with melee attack... so I got killed few times while reloading because it makes you a sitting duck.
Scattershot might be a terrible weapon, but once it`s at level X I probably won`t use most other shotguns.
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Post by kaind on Apr 14, 2017 19:48:34 GMT
It`s also painful how long Ruzad takes to reload. ...and I believe reload animation cannot be canceled with melee attack... so I got killed few times while reloading because it makes you a sitting duck. Scattershot might be a terrible weapon, but once it`s at level X I probably won`t use most other shotguns. Use the Talon, best shotgun, can have melee optimizer and fast reload.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 14, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
It`s also painful how long Ruzad takes to reload. ...and I believe reload animation cannot be canceled with melee attack... so I got killed few times while reloading because it makes you a sitting duck. Scattershot might be a terrible weapon, but once it`s at level X I probably won`t use most other shotguns. Use the Talon, best shotgun, can have melee optimizer and fast reload. Yeah. I am gonna do that. I insisted carrying Ruzad on my Kroguard for reasons of both cosmetic and melee damage bonus, but the thing is ultimately not helping. lol
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Post by kaind on Apr 14, 2017 20:02:34 GMT
Use the Talon, best shotgun, can have melee optimizer and fast reload. Yeah. I am gonna do that. I insisted carrying Ruzad on my Kroguard for reasons of both cosmetic and melee damage bonus, but the thing is ultimately not helping. lol Krogans suck at melee, play an asari.
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Post by Zyurat on Apr 14, 2017 20:11:14 GMT
Between Talon and Piranha, what's better?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:24:20 GMT
I'd say Piranha, better RoF
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Post by mihai2011rom on Apr 14, 2017 20:31:06 GMT
Between Talon and Piranha, what's better? Talon cause it weights less and does more dmg per shot.
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 14, 2017 20:38:15 GMT
I would say Hesh or Scattershot. Easier to get to X than the Piranha, and a lot quicker ROF, and more shots than the Talon...
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Post by riviet on Apr 15, 2017 1:38:17 GMT
If it does (and I believe that it does) it doesn't justify the downgrade in weapon performance you will have when you actually need your gun.I'd I'd say it's still worth using on melee only characters. Having said that, I haven't tested to see if it does make a difference in number of melees required to down enemies compared to other guns with the melee attachment.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 15, 2017 1:42:17 GMT
If it does (and I believe that it does) it doesn't justify the downgrade in weapon performance you will have when you actually need your gun.I'd I'd say it's still worth using on melee only characters. Having said that, I haven't tested to see if it does make a difference in number of melees required to down enemies compared to other guns with the melee attachment. So.. 5% melee bonus with a trash tier weapon is better than not having a 5% melee increase and the weapon performance of a Piranha? I can't disagree enough. 5% is f'n nothing in comparison to like, 300-400% better weapon performance. Are you going to melee the sync killers? The flying units? You need a gun.. unless you exclusively play against Outlaws, then you can get away with it.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 15, 2017 1:43:57 GMT
I'd say it's still worth using on melee only characters. Having said that, I haven't tested to see if it does make a difference in number of melees required to down enemies compared to other guns with the melee attachment. So.. 5% melee bonus with a trash tier weapon is better than not having a 5% melee increase and the weapon performance of a Piranha? I can't disagree enough. 5% is f'n nothing in comparison to like, 300-400% better weapon performance.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 15, 2017 1:49:39 GMT
So.. 5% melee bonus with a trash tier weapon is better than not having a 5% melee increase and the weapon performance of a Piranha? I can't disagree enough. 5% is f'n nothing in comparison to like, 300-400% better weapon performance. Quit being stupid Penguin. How many MELEES ONLY does it take to kill an Ascendant or Fiend? Hell.. how many MELEES ONLY does it take to put down an Ascendant's Orb? How many MELEES ONLY do you need to kill an Observer 10 meters above your head, or a Destroyer's Turrets you can't reach? You can't MELEE ONLY unless you're farming Outlaws. You need your gun at some point.. unless you are expecting your team to handle all these units.. which would make you a shitty teammate.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 15, 2017 1:49:48 GMT
I would say Hesh or Scattershot. Easier to get to X than the Piranha, and a lot quicker ROF, and more shots than the Talon... Scattershot almost does negative damage
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Post by varicite on Apr 15, 2017 1:50:08 GMT
There aren't any melee only builds, you can't melee observers, and have fun meleeing ascendants before the orb is popped.
Not firing your gun is gimp, and firing the Ruzad slows you down for those super long reloads.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 15, 2017 1:54:07 GMT
Quit being stupid Penguin. How many MELEES ONLY does it take to kill an Ascendant or Fiend? Hell.. how many MELEES ONLY does it take to put down an Ascendant's Orb? How many MELEES ONLY do you need to kill an Observer 10 meters above your head, or a Destroyer's Turrets you can't reach? You can't MELEE ONLY unless you're farming Outlaws. You need your gun at some point.. unless you are expecting your team to handle all these units.. which would make you a shitty teammate. Implying anybody uses a melee only build against anything but outlaws... honestly, melee only to me means melee only and only an idiot would attempt melee only against a faction that can instagib you for being in melee range or has units which are literally unmeleeable.
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Post by riviet on Apr 15, 2017 1:59:13 GMT
I'd say it's still worth using on melee only characters. Having said that, I haven't tested to see if it does make a difference in number of melees required to down enemies compared to other guns with the melee attachment. So.. 5% melee bonus with a trash tier weapon is better than not having a 5% melee increase and the weapon performance of a Piranha? I can't disagree enough. 5% is f'n nothing in comparison to like, 300-400% better weapon performance. Are you going to melee the sync killers? The flying units? You need a gun.. unless you exclusively play against Outlaws, then you can get away with it. Good points there. I don't have a piranha yet sadly and yes, I mainly only use Kroguard with Ruzad and a raptor X for the tough or flying enemies.
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