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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 4:39:44 GMT
That wasn't my point. My point was that it should take between 2-4 minutes to kill the boss with any spec. Guess the developers thought different. No? Or they released a broken game? Where they all played vanguards? Well... many "Vanguards" are not really "Vanguards" because they mixed tech skills into them - which effectively turns them into Explorers. Also, Vanguards are also not the most effective class to deal with the Cardinal. Infiltrator is more effective against this Cardinal imo. Some builds are better at certain things while weak less effective against certain things. Adapt powers like Singularity into (choose detonator) is very effective against groups of normal mobs. So it is not possible that any specs can deal with everything with the same efficiency. Okay, so. Infiltrator - 2 minutes or less Vanguard - 4 minutes or less Everyone else - 30 minutes or more. Is that what you're saying? Please, clarify. |
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Post by doch on Apr 15, 2017 4:44:14 GMT
Adept here. Beat him in a couple of minutes. He was a standard mini-boss. Nothing special.
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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 4:45:42 GMT
They have a point on powers being awful in the game though. They really are, and I'm quite thankful I've always been more of a soldier/tech build over biotics because ofpowers getting less effective each game since ME1. Andromeda takes it to a whole new level though on really restricting powers though. personally though I see an issue if people are letting that specific fight take so long considering I can get it done in 10 minutes or less with a widow and piranha. They're either trying to force the powers to work, or neglect the effectiveness of the weapons regardless if they want to use them or not. I meant troll thread because of the replies from the OP in this thread indicate a troll or someone posting on the forums while intoxicated. Powers that are not weapon augments/shield restore DO suck pretty badly in this game. Yes. Fuck if I am intoxicated! Fuck, I am five and half beers to the wind right now. Doesn't mean that the game isn't fucked beyond belief and that has nothing to do with facial animations. |
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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 4:47:53 GMT
Adept here. Beat him in a couple of minutes. He was a standard mini-boss. Nothing special. What powers, or I call bullshit. And even then I might call bullshit. |
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 15, 2017 4:51:51 GMT
Well... many "Vanguards" are not really "Vanguards" because they mixed tech skills into them - which effectively turns them into Explorers. Also, Vanguards are also not the most effective class to deal with the Cardinal. Infiltrator is more effective against this Cardinal imo. Some builds are better at certain things while weak less effective against certain things. Adapt powers like Singularity into (choose detonator) is very effective against groups of normal mobs. So it is not possible that any specs can deal with everything with the same efficiency. Okay, so. Infiltrator - 2 minutes or less Vanguard - 4 minutes or less Everyone else - 30 minutes or more. Is that what you're saying? Please, clarify. Umm... No. As long as you can carry a sniper rifle or a good assault riffle, it should not be 30 minutes. |
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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 4:54:44 GMT
Okay, so. Infiltrator - 2 minutes or less Vanguard - 4 minutes or less Everyone else - 30 minutes or more. Is that what you're saying? Please, clarify. Umm... No. As long as you can carry a sniper rifle or a good assault riffle, it should not be 30 minutes. Ahh, okay. So, not balance power wise, but balance weapon wise? I s'pose. If that's the way that BioWare wants to go. CoD/BF style. Sure. WTF ever. I s'pose you're correct. |
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Post by doch on Apr 15, 2017 4:56:08 GMT
Adept here. Beat him in a couple of minutes. He was a standard mini-boss. Nothing special. What powers, or I call bullshit. And even then I might call bullshit. I all ready told you. Are you not reading your thread? Could it be that you need a tutorial on using powers, and perhaps a weapon? |
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 15, 2017 5:08:25 GMT
Umm... No. As long as you can carry a sniper rifle or a good assault riffle, it should not be 30 minutes. Ahh, okay. So, not balance power wise, but balance weapon wise? I s'pose. If that's the way that BioWare wants to go. CoD/BF style. Sure. WTF ever. I s'pose you're correct. Being weapon focused doesn't make this game anything like CoD/battlefield. You're reaching at that point in thinking so, especially when mass effect has always been more comparable to the Gears franchise as a cover based shooter dating back to ME2. i think your issue is you're wanting to neglect the fact that bioware has always wanted weapons to be a part of the combat. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be more power focused, but fact is bioware has continuously regressed that side of the combat for a decade now to where powers aren't as viable as a primary focus and are more in the support role, and if you're wanting to get less longer fights, you're going to have to accept the use of weapons whether you like it or not. |
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 15, 2017 5:09:42 GMT
Honestly... Singularity + Throw + Scorpion Pistol is probably as not effective as power + weapon combination goes when it comes to fighting the Cardinal imo.
OP, you cannot honestly expect to use probably one of the worst combination of power and weapons against the Cardinal and expect that it will do as well as any build.
Power + Weapon. Some are more effective and some are less effective. Choose the least effective power+weapon against an opponent and you can bet it is a challenging fight.
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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 5:11:40 GMT
Ahh, okay. So, not balance power wise, but balance weapon wise? I s'pose. If that's the way that BioWare wants to go. CoD/BF style. Sure. WTF ever. I s'pose you're correct. Being weapon focused doesn't make this game anything like CoD/battlefield. You're reaching at that point in thinking so, especially when mass effect has always been more comparable to the Gears franchise as a cover based shooter dating back to ME2. i think your issue is you're wanting to neglect the fact that bioware has always wanted weapons to be a part of the combat. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be more power focused, but fact is bioware has continuously regressed that side of the combat for a decade now to where powers aren't as viable as a primary focus and are more in the support role, and if you're wanting to get less longer fights, you're going to have to accept the use of weapons whether you like it or not. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Holy shit. Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahaha. Someone please describe to this n00b ME3MP. Hahahaha. I'm too busy laughing my ass off. Hahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahaha! OMG. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah. |
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Post by doch on Apr 15, 2017 5:13:14 GMT
I all ready told you. Are you not reading your thread? Could it be that you need a tutorial on using powers, and perhaps a weapon? Ahh, okay, so you used pull, throw, and overload? So.... I take that you were one of the lucky ones? How does it feel massa? To be one of the lucky ones? You do know that there is an orb floating around him that you have to shoot/destroy, in order to take down his shield right? Once you do that, you just start attacking his health. Rinse and repeat. Nothing lucky about it.  |
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Post by goishen on Apr 15, 2017 5:15:22 GMT
Honestly... Singularity + Throw + Scorpion Pistol is probably as not effective as power + weapon combination goes when it comes to fighting the Cardinal imo. OP, you cannot honestly expect to use probably one of the worst combination of power and weapons against the Cardinal and expect that it will do as well as any build. Power + Weapon. Some are more effective and some are less effective. Choose the least effective power+weapon against an opponent and you can bet it is a challenging fight. That's great. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Its not nearly as effective as say charge and incinerate. Not by a long shot. But why should that matter in a SP game? It shouldn't. So why did it take me 30 minutes to down the boss when it took other peopke 2 minutes or less? I dunno. Luck? |
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 15, 2017 5:16:57 GMT
Being weapon focused doesn't make this game anything like CoD/battlefield. You're reaching at that point in thinking so, especially when mass effect has always been more comparable to the Gears franchise as a cover based shooter dating back to ME2. i think your issue is you're wanting to neglect the fact that bioware has always wanted weapons to be a part of the combat. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be more power focused, but fact is bioware has continuously regressed that side of the combat for a decade now to where powers aren't as viable as a primary focus and are more in the support role, and if you're wanting to get less longer fights, you're going to have to accept the use of weapons whether you like it or not. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Holy shit. Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahaha. Someone please describe to this n00b ME3MP. Hahahaha. I'm too busy laughing my ass off. Hahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahaha! OMG. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah. I'd love to see someone try considering I played it a lot for a year after it's release and I constantly ran gold/platnum tier matches. Why don't you try to indulge me rather than make pointless comments? I even asked you probably 10 hours ago on how you see this game being CoD/BF based, you've e given no reason at all, and I'm going to question it as I've the mindset it's a naive way of thinking and a failure to actually know the differences between franchises and their actual mechanics. funny I'm the noob yet I'm not the one stuck fighting a mini boss for 30 minutes lol. |
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