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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 17:16:35 GMT
You can discuss a game like civilized people, no need to take a crap on someone. I agree, much better to take a crap on everyone. That gives you an air of distinction and puts you squarely above the plebs that populate this shithole, yes? I'm a part of this place myself, so I would never crap on everyone - 'cause I'd have to go take a shower after I did that Not trying to defend the sorry state this game's in, just trying to make love, not war
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 16, 2017 17:33:34 GMT
I agree, much better to take a crap on everyone. That gives you an air of distinction and puts you squarely above the plebs that populate this shithole, yes? I'm a part of this place myself, so I would never crap on everyone - 'cause I'd have to go take a shower after I did that Not trying to defend the sorry state this game's in, just trying to make love, not war Nah, I didn't mean to imply that you were doing that. It's more the comments liberally casting aspersions on this shithole the whole community that I tend to aim the snark at. The current climate here is a consequence of the reception the game has had. If people were loving it they would be spending less time bitching and posting memes than they would in lobbies. I know I would. I don't see how I should feel sorry about developers "going through a lot of crap". Maybe they could try putting out a product that it's not a step back in every conceivable direction and then not treating customers as complete idiots, see if that helps with all the "crap".
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Post by nanotm on Apr 16, 2017 17:46:58 GMT
I always treat each game even in a series as if they are totally new, mea has problems I wont deny t hat but so far I cant say that i'm unhappy about the price I spent on it, if you had played the mars warlogs game and then preordered the technomancer and seen how bad that game was on release you might feel differnently as well (I actually felt like i'd been mugged for that game it was that bad) mostly its just funky animations and dodgy gun power that's problemetic in mea, and for actual bugs they are patching it up, in tt it had a premium price and it took them 3 months to release a patch so you could play past the first 30 minuites of the game (it hard crashed due to a code problem) but to do it they nerfed your character hardcore so it was virtually impossible to get to that point.... and now its just some trash placeholder in my steam game list..... and it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't cost so much money, where as with mea i'm mostly likeing playing it but some things are annoying me more because i'm a completionist than because the game is crappy If I had paid say, only $60, or $75, I wouldn't feel so bad, but I paid $115. I take responsibility for that. I made that purchase. I am also remorseful for spending that much on a preorder based on 1) hype from the developers and 2) my experience from ME3. However, this is my issue. I cannot compare this to the mars warlogs game (as I have no clue what that is). As I stated before - coding issues are fixable, design and voice acting, not so much. This is where the remorse comes in. I only speak from a programmer's PoV. I've never spent that much on a preorder and it was a little disheartening to be let down. Lesson learned. Had I seen the stuff that I am seeing now (and in the past few weeks) in the hyped up trailers and snippets provided, it would have swayed my decision on purchasing this. I would still have purchased this, but at the $45-60 price range (at least half or what I paid). fair one, I paid for the super delux version on pc and a copy for the xbone with the toy car (the £5 one) which I guess rounds at about £110, or $135... but I don't blame eaware for that, and i'll even be happy if they manage to fix some of the things that are wrong, especially if they fix the guns damage thing in mp XD
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 17:52:47 GMT
I agree, much better to take a crap on everyone. That gives you an air of distinction and puts you squarely above the plebs that populate this shithole, yes? I'm a part of this place myself, so I would never crap on everyone - 'cause I'd have to go take a shower after I did that Not trying to defend the sorry state this game's in, just trying to make love, not war Assuming they are adventurous and confident, there are 1 or 2 people around here I would help out in the making love part. I'm drawing the line at that donkey though. Someone is going to have to take one for the team on that one and it isn't going to be me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 17:55:48 GMT
I'm a part of this place myself, so I would never crap on everyone - 'cause I'd have to go take a shower after I did that Not trying to defend the sorry state this game's in, just trying to make love, not war Nah, I didn't mean to imply that you were doing that. It's more the comments liberally casting aspersions on this shithole the whole community that I tend to aim the snark at. The current climate here is a consequence of the reception the game has had. If people were loving it they would be spending less time bitching and posting memes than they would in lobbies. I know I would. I don't see how I should feel sorry about developers "going through a lot of crap". Maybe they could try putting out a product that it's not a step back in every conceivable direction and then not treating customers as complete idiots, see if that helps with all the "crap". Puh, you got me seriously worried there I think I've already stated it somewhere else, but I 100% understand everyone who is so disappointed in this game that they wished they'd never bought it. I've got generally rather average expectations considering video games, which means I might be more easily positively surprised than a more "critic" player would...
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 16, 2017 18:05:03 GMT
Nah, I didn't mean to imply that you were doing that. It's more the comments liberally casting aspersions on this shithole the whole community that I tend to aim the snark at. The current climate here is a consequence of the reception the game has had. If people were loving it they would be spending less time bitching and posting memes than they would in lobbies. I know I would. I don't see how I should feel sorry about developers "going through a lot of crap". Maybe they could try putting out a product that it's not a step back in every conceivable direction and then not treating customers as complete idiots, see if that helps with all the "crap". Puh, you got me seriously worried there I think I've already stated it somewhere else, but I 100% understand everyone who is so disappointed in this game that they wished they'd never bought it. I've got generally rather average expectations considering video games, which means I might be more easily positively surprised than a more "critic" player would... Ronik you're a sweetheart, I can't imagine anyone thinking badly about you. Things might get heated around here sometimes but still, I have never seen you talk shit about anyone, you're a good guy Edited: My English isn't so good always lol. But I'm sure you get what I mean.
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 16, 2017 18:05:06 GMT
I'm a part of this place myself, so I would never crap on everyone - 'cause I'd have to go take a shower after I did that Not trying to defend the sorry state this game's in, just trying to make love, not war Nah, I didn't mean to imply that you were doing that. It's more the comments liberally casting aspersions on this shithole the whole community that I tend to aim the snark at. The current climate here is a consequence of the reception the game has had. If people were loving it they would be spending less time bitching and posting memes than they would in lobbies. I know I would. I don't see how I should feel sorry about developers "going through a lot of crap". Maybe they could try putting out a product that it's not a step back in every conceivable direction and then not treating customers as complete idiots, see if that helps with all the "crap". I wake up, get some coffee, spend an hour or two catching up on the forums, then I think to myself "Guess I might as well play a few matches". Shitposting BSN forums are more entertaining than MEAMP atm.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 16, 2017 18:16:52 GMT
BSN has always been a shithole, even back in ME3 days which according to todays users was the best game ever created. BSN in ME3 had at least people like peddro and cyonan who contributed enormously to the community as a whole. Here? Just look at people like VegasFlash, whos last three threads have been locked, his entire posting history is him flaming other people and spewing vitrol along with racism as of late and he remains an active user on this forum. Two thoughts: 1 - Definitely don't look up who founded the forum. It would probably break your brain. 2 - The way to improve any forum is definitely to be like you and dedicate your energies to shitting on the place and the people in it. Good job!
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Post by s0ulbearer on Apr 16, 2017 18:36:22 GMT
Everybody knows the BSN was a bunch of...foolishness.
I wouldn't consider it hypocrisy to nip that bud. Very little of positive note came out of that place.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 16, 2017 20:10:54 GMT
Nah the real reason why they don't want an official forum is because they can't handle the criticism. Especially when it comes to Andromeda. They would have gotten flamed worse.
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Post by xaijin on Apr 16, 2017 20:11:08 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... The reddit is a hugbox, which is the last thing this game needs in the state it's in.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Apr 16, 2017 20:19:14 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... The reddit is a hugbox, which is the last thing this game needs in the state it's in. You're right, it definitely needs incessant whining and insults being tossed around towards the developers, the majority of which were just showing up to work. Constructive criticism hasn't been achieved outside of very few users even on the OG BSN. And it makes me laugh how much everybody suddenly thinks me3 was the best game ever when it was getting trashed on by most of the community during it's heyday. It's just goes to show how many people today just flock towards mind numbingly hating on anything and everything.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 16, 2017 20:41:39 GMT
I don't understand how people can stand reddit. It looks like one giant cluster fuck when trying to read it with how everything is set up.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 16, 2017 20:48:28 GMT
BSN has always been a shithole, even back in ME3 days which according to todays users was the best game ever created. BSN in ME3 had at least people like peddro and cyonan who contributed enormously to the community as a whole. Here? Just look at people like VegasFlash, whos last three threads have been locked, his entire posting history is him flaming other people and spewing vitrol along with racism as of late and he remains an active user on this forum. People like him are also the reason that a lot of good quality content for ME:A gets buried. Look at threads by TheThirdRace, JRandall, Stardusk, Mortiel etc, they don't get anywhere near the same attention as meme thread no.2000 that is more or less 'the devs are shit', or VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone. Oh, and we have boobs like you too. You're right, you are no peddro. Also, maybe the reason why the forum doesn't please you, is that the game sucks and most of saw that and accepted it, while you kling on like Worf in a toilet bowl. So glad you love the game, make money with your fruity gaming page, etc.... Don't shit on us because you don't like the content here. If the game was better, I'd be playing it, everyone else would be playing it more, and these forums would actually be quiet for a while yet. Instead, you have memes everywhere, because the game is nearly universally panned as a crapfest. Get over yourself, you are just another average gamer. You aren't that serious either. This game is great. It doesn't suck in the least and it's only going to get better and expand further.
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Post by neightrix on Apr 16, 2017 20:54:08 GMT
I thought VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone was our own little form of comic relief, where we all kinda sit there and smile at the BabyRage
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 20:59:23 GMT
I thought VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone was our own little form of comic relief, where we all kinda sit there and smile at the BabyRage :lmfao: He went too far with his trolling. The thread where he was specifically telling girls only to add him was pretty funny and he was really dedicated to it. I liked it. When you start clicking random threads and there he is specifically quoting people for that reason and ignoring the thread itself and everything in it then that was going too far...even becoming a bit cringy. There's an art to trolling. Maybe he is just sharpening his teeth.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 16, 2017 21:00:46 GMT
I thought VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone was our own little form of comic relief, where we all kinda sit there and smile at the BabyRage :lmfao: He went too far with his trolling. The thread where he was specifically telling girls only to add him was pretty funny and he was really dedicated to it. I liked it. When you start clicking random threads and there he is specifically quoting people for that reason and ignoring the thread itself and everything in it then that was going too far...even becoming a bit cringy. There's an art to trolling. Maybe he is just sharpening his teeth. Where did he go though? I haven't seen him around.
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Post by neightrix on Apr 16, 2017 21:09:49 GMT
I thought VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone was our own little form of comic relief, where we all kinda sit there and smile at the BabyRage :lmfao: He went too far with his trolling. The thread where he was specifically telling girls only to add him was pretty funny and he was really dedicated to it. I liked it. When you start clicking random threads and there he is specifically quoting people for that reason and ignoring the thread itself and everything in it then that was going too far...even becoming a bit cringy. There's an art to trolling. Maybe he is just sharpening his teeth. Oh? I must have missed that part near the end.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 21:17:00 GMT
I think the donkey thread guy might have got a time out. If you go to that thread the OP is nuked and it's only left in quoted posts. As far as Vegas goes I'm not sure. The last I saw of him was just seeing people quoting him in threads and saying its going too far and it wasn't funny borderline creepy at that point. I can't think he was being serious so maybe hes just taking a backseat for a bit or posting on an alt. Didn't really see anything ban worthy.
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Post by kouzje on Apr 16, 2017 22:01:26 GMT
I dare hope that Bioware devs were not the ones pushing for the closure of their forums. As to this decision, I always said it was incredibly wrong. The only reason their forum was "toxic" was that they handled it badly for a long time and left it to rot under some biobots supervision. Then they were surprised at the bad behavior as we were treated like a nuisance. Ok I have to admit that every now and then I marvel at the creepiness we can find here. But honestly Bioware games are the ones with highly advertised mature sex and big romance stuff. What else would you expect?
Anyways they are incredibly lucky that some of their fans are dedicated enough to do the work they failed to do, and for free. The best we can hope is that freed from the constraints of maintaining a community, they manage to at least have an intern who can write weekly summaries of this forum. It's the kind of thing that could be done by fans for free again. But not me. I stopped feeling involved in the community since we were called toxic and chased away like garbage.
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Post by Ghostknife72 on Apr 16, 2017 22:48:03 GMT
Ok I have to admit that every now and then I marvel at the creepiness we can find here. Hey!! Why were you looking at me when you said that part? 😔
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 16, 2017 23:23:30 GMT
Ok I have to admit that every now and then I marvel at the creepiness we can find here. Hey!! Why were you looking at me when you said that part? 😔 Maybe because by default you HAVE to pick a gender and it displays it unless you remove it in options. One of my major gripes with this site because it seems totally irrelevant, unless this is supposed to be a dating site. Also there are only two gender options to pick in 2017
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 16, 2017 23:43:47 GMT
I stopped feeling involved in the community since we were called toxic and chased away like garbage. Don't be ridiculous, Kouzrah! You don't chase garbage away - you toss it on the curb. Then mock it on facebook, apparently.
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Post by Stinja on Apr 16, 2017 23:50:58 GMT
That said, I think off-topic shit should obviously be in off-topic, and am somewhat disappointed in the lack of technical discussion in this subforum. Having some shit-talk is good for community building and socialising, but old-BSN was the best place for technical info, and had the official balance changes / discussion / dev communication. I kinda feel like this-BSN needs a tag like "#Serious", and in those threads you break out the NinjaStan and mod anything not directly on-topic and useful. Then if they can be searched for, it may make it much easier to find proper information, and give some credibility for the Bioware devs to visit.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 17, 2017 0:27:59 GMT
Number crunching on BSN was a natural, since that was where the number-crunchers were going to go, that was where the devs were, and that was were the interaction was happening.
It's not quite the same situation, to say nothing of the smaller number of users reducing the pool of available testers.
While this place will certainly gradually build a body of knowledge, it's going to be put together with fewer people, without dev interaction, without any kind of influence over balance, and without any support from the people doing QA.
Which reminds me, THANKS AGAIN FOR THAT BIOWARE GREAT CALL
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